What was your anointing, and who anointed you?

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#1 Jul 23, 2012
Many claim an anointing from God, or that they are anointed. Every anointing in the bible, done for God's purpose or reason, had just that; a reason or purpose. What is yours?

God told those he anointed that they were anointed. They had a work to do. Jesus gave the apostles a work to do. Who told you? What work have you been set aside for?

The disciples of Jesus, both before and after his death were told to preach, but they were not anointed. They did not have an individual purpose. Noah was called a preacher of righteousness. That was not an anointing. His anointing was to build an ark. His concern for God and for others drove him to preach. If I am incorrect, show it to me scripturally.

sidgi

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#2 Jul 23, 2012
One thing is for certain, if anyone claiming to be anointed is finding it difficult to discus his or her claimed anointing, they have NOT been anointed by God. Unless perhaps your name might be Jonah, then there may be a delay.

sidgi

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#3 Jul 23, 2012
I guess "self anointing" is in vogue these days. I seem to recall more than one individual, claiming that status, posting here. I assure you it isn't a trick question. I would like to know how many here, are self appointed to the anointed status. And just what was it that you were self appointed to do? And how is that work coming along?

It's amazing how strong the power of suggestion is, no matter if the suggestion is fabricated by the individual being convinced of something, or if it was a suggestion picked up in passing, from someone else' comment or an article read.

Doesn't your own reluctance to bring it right out here for discussion tell you that your own conscience is bearing witness that it isn't from God? I don't recall but one "secret" anointing from Jehovah, and eventually that one was made public. Do you recall that one?

sidgi

sidgi
little lamb

Australia

#4 Jul 23, 2012
Every Christian should be anointed.

Ephesians 1 [13] But you hoped in HIM {JESUS] after you heard the word of truth . the good news of your salvation . By means of him[JESUS] also after you BELIEVED , you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit"

If you were not sealed its because you didn't BELIEVE GOD in the first place.

Also we are not to be shifted away from the good-news...the Apostles preached to us, as many have , but we are warned

1 John 2 [19] "They went out from us [THE APOSTLES] but they were not of our {ORIGINAL APOSTLES] sort , for if they had been of our sort , they would have remained with us [original Apostles teachings] But they went out that it might be shown up that not all are of our sort.
[20]And you have an anointing from the holy one, ALL OF YOU have knowledge"

Thats pretty clear those who have left the good-news and don't have an anointing are not of the same sort as the Apostles, but ALL OF US who remain in the teaching of Jesus and his Apostles have an anointing...scripture is pretty clear

We have an unbeliever trying to call a Christian a liar because they know the anouinting was promised from the start

"Repent and be baptized and you will receive the free gift of the Holy Spirit , this promise is to you and your children"

we believe Gods WORD.

The purpose of the anointing is told to us as well

1 John 2 [27] And as for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you , and you do not need any one to be teaching you ABOUT ALL THINGS and is true, and just as it has taught you , remain in union with HIM{JESUS]"

So the purpose is to teach us to be in union with Christ ...its the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that gives us the power to witness.

However these scriptures are in answer to a question..from an unbeliever..and we know an unbeliever has no understanding...and ends up a ridiculer of the WORD.
little lamb

Australia

#5 Jul 23, 2012
Who anointed us

2 Corinthians 1 [21] But he who guarantees THAT YOU and we belong to CHRIST and he who ANOINTED us is God "
red blood relative

United States

#6 Jul 23, 2012
so i am annointed?........ omg dear jesus!!!
and i eat the bread of the word and the blood of the lamb

dear jesus....... let me see if i can talk jehovah's-witnesses into eating the bread and drinking the wine....... that would be really fun.

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#7 Jul 23, 2012
little lamb wrote:
Every Christian should be anointed.
Ephesians 1 [13] But you hoped in HIM {JESUS] after you heard the word of truth . the good news of your salvation . By means of him[JESUS] also after you BELIEVED , you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit"
If you were not sealed its because you didn't BELIEVE GOD in the first place.
Also we are not to be shifted away from the good-news...the Apostles preached to us, as many have , but we are warned
1 John 2 [19] "They went out from us [THE APOSTLES] but they were not of our {ORIGINAL APOSTLES] sort , for if they had been of our sort , they would have remained with us [original Apostles teachings] But they went out that it might be shown up that not all are of our sort.
[20]And you have an anointing from the holy one, ALL OF YOU have knowledge"
Thats pretty clear those who have left the good-news and don't have an anointing are not of the same sort as the Apostles, but ALL OF US who remain in the teaching of Jesus and his Apostles have an anointing...scripture is pretty clear
We have an unbeliever trying to call a Christian a liar because they know the anouinting was promised from the start
"Repent and be baptized and you will receive the free gift of the Holy Spirit , this promise is to you and your children"
we believe Gods WORD.
The purpose of the anointing is told to us as well
1 John 2 [27] And as for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you , and you do not need any one to be teaching you ABOUT ALL THINGS and is true, and just as it has taught you , remain in union with HIM{JESUS]"
So the purpose is to teach us to be in union with Christ ...its the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that gives us the power to witness.
However these scriptures are in answer to a question..from an unbeliever..and we know an unbeliever has no understanding...and ends up a ridiculer of the WORD.
an apostle wrote those words, and he had that right, he was anointed, he was given a work. Anyone quoting those words and applying them to their self, today, as evidence is being presumptuous. You ether don't understand what an anointment's purpose is, or you are claiming something that wasn't offered to you, unless God told you, and then your's would have a definite purpose, like those that went before you. If that is so, what is that purpose beyond the responsibility of everyone else accepting the ransom sacrifice.

sidgi
Pat

Morris, IL

#8 Jul 23, 2012
little lamb wrote:
Every Christian should be anointed.
Ephesians 1 [13] But you hoped in HIM {JESUS] after you heard the word of truth . the good news of your salvation . By means of him[JESUS] also after you BELIEVED , you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit"
If you were not sealed its because you didn't BELIEVE GOD in the first place.
Also we are not to be shifted away from the good-news...the Apostles preached to us, as many have , but we are warned
1 John 2 [19] "They went out from us [THE APOSTLES] but they were not of our {ORIGINAL APOSTLES] sort , for if they had been of our sort , they would have remained with us [original Apostles teachings] But they went out that it might be shown up that not all are of our sort.
[20]And you have an anointing from the holy one, ALL OF YOU have knowledge"
Thats pretty clear those who have left the good-news and don't have an anointing are not of the same sort as the Apostles, but ALL OF US who remain in the teaching of Jesus and his Apostles have an anointing...scripture is pretty clear
We have an unbeliever trying to call a Christian a liar because they know the anouinting was promised from the start
"Repent and be baptized and you will receive the free gift of the Holy Spirit , this promise is to you and your children"
we believe Gods WORD.
The purpose of the anointing is told to us as well
1 John 2 [27] And as for you, the anointing you received from him remains in you , and you do not need any one to be teaching you ABOUT ALL THINGS and is true, and just as it has taught you , remain in union with HIM{JESUS]"
So the purpose is to teach us to be in union with Christ ...its the baptism of the Holy Spirit, that gives us the power to witness.
However these scriptures are in answer to a question..from an unbeliever..and we know an unbeliever has no understanding...and ends up a ridiculer of the WORD.
Your right

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#9 Jul 23, 2012
Pat wrote:
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Your right
where does your authority to pronounce her correct come from? You haven't shown anything scripturally that would denote a change in anointing practices on God's part, and the outworking of God's spirit in an anointed one. The anointing is to God's benefit, not the individual. People can convince themselves of anything. Where is the bona fides?

sidgi
bystander no more

Sacramento, CA

#10 Jul 23, 2012
sidgi wrote:
One thing is for certain, if anyone claiming to be anointed is finding it difficult to discus his or her claimed anointing, they have NOT been anointed by God. Unless perhaps your name might be Jonah, then there may be a delay.
sidgi
Most anointed ones are very humble and like to keep a low profile.

That's why you're not getting much of a response.
little lamb

Australia

#11 Jul 23, 2012
sidgi wrote:
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an apostle wrote those words, and he had that right, he was anointed, he was given a work. Anyone quoting those words and applying them to their self, today, as evidence is being presumptuous. You ether don't understand what an anointment's purpose is, or you are claiming something that wasn't offered to you, unless God told you, and then your's would have a definite purpose, like those that went before you. If that is so, what is that purpose beyond the responsibility of everyone else accepting the ransom sacrifice.
sidgi
Its a matter of BELIEVING the gospels of which the Apostles have written..

I can't help it if you don't believe Gods word..and are an unbeliever.

Its pretty plain and Jesus explained it

John 8 [47] "He that is from God LISTENS to the sayings of God . This is why you do not listen because YOU ARE NOT FROM GOD"
little lamb

Australia

#12 Jul 23, 2012
Pat wrote:
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Your right
Thanks Pat...All scripture is inspired of God beneficial for teaching rproving and setting matters straight, that the man of God will be completely equipped and fully competent for every good work"

There is a tendency for some not to accept the whole word ..The Gospels....
little lamb

Australia

#13 Jul 23, 2012
bystander no more wrote:
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Most anointed ones are very humble and like to keep a low profile.
That's why you're not getting much of a response.
And there is FALSE HUMILITY..John and Paul shared their ANOINTING with us, they were not shy in putting it into their preaching and also encouraging us, as well

As Paul said and he wasn't shy about it "2 Corinthians [21] But he who guarantees that you and we...{ Do you read his encouraging words YOU AND WE]? belong to Christ and he who has anointed US is God."

No you can't hear them because you believe the lie of false prophets who do the opposite of Paul and John and try to DISCOURAGE our FAITH.
Pat

Morris, IL

#14 Jul 23, 2012
Every believer is sealed with the Holy Spirit and that same Holy Spirit is the anointing that lives in us. So every believer is "anointed" with the Holy Spirit.
The believer is indwelt by God when they believe (Holy Spirit)- I John 4:15, Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides In him, and he in God."

Eph. 1:13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise,"

Eph. 4:3And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 2 Cor. 1:21-22Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and has anointed us is God 22who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee."

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#15 Jul 24, 2012
All those claiming to be anointed, are self appointed. Period. All claims to the contrary would have to have evidence. There is not one instance in the bible of someone being appointed to do something in Gods name, that was not evidenced in some visible way. None.

Anyone truly believing they have been appointed by God to some office without God, or Jesus, or an angel acting in their behalf, or flames sitting on them out of the ether, or some other means that would be visible to others, and miraculous works to back it up, is being presumptuous.

Trying to convince others is self aggrandizement. Mental illness is a reason some do it. Lack purpose, and impatience in waiting for God to give one, is another reason. Low self esteem, being misled that such a thing could be, all of these are possibilities. Without God telling someone they've been appointed to an office, it is self appointment.

All choosing this course have set themselves up against the arrangement of God. They've gone beyond the things written. They try to justify it with scriptures that don't apply to them, and are no more valid than someone teaching the trinity doctrine.

sidgi

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#16 Jul 24, 2012
bystander no more wrote:
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Most anointed ones are very humble and like to keep a low profile.
That's why you're not getting much of a response.
You call it humility. That is an attempt at giving them cover. I think it is convenience. The convenience of not having to address it. This is what Peter said about it......

(1 Peter 3:15) 15†But sanctify the Christ as Lord in YOUR hearts, always ready to make a defense before everyone that demands of YOU a reason for the hope in YOU, but doing so together with a mild temper and deep respect.

If there is a reason, beyond someones desire, whether it be motivated by wanting the attention, by needing some personal importance, by wanting a purpose in God's arrangement beyond just being saved at the end, by having been mislead into thinking God does things this way (presumptuousness), what ever the reason; it isn't God's reason, because it hasn't manifested itself with evidence. It is just a self appointment.

sidgi
aardvark

Dunbar, UK

#17 Jul 24, 2012
sidgi wrote:
There is not one instance in the bible of someone being appointed to do something in Gods name, that was not evidenced in some visible way. None.
2 Corinthians 1:20-22
For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us. Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

Paul writes to the congregation in Corinthian and says that they are anointed - "us with you" - "anointed us".

All born again Christians are anointed by the Holy Spirit.

As Paul says, God has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

That's all the evidence we need.

And we don't need to prove diddly squat to you or anyone else chum.
little lamb

Australia

#18 Jul 24, 2012
Actually Sidgi, there is no scripture..no not one, that tells a Christian they are not anointed, in the new testement

Actually the onus is on you to provide a scripture that actually states a Christian is not anointed.

You can't because no such scripture exists.. men have just pulled it out of their own heads.

John and Paul tell us we have an anointing, and I believe their words and stay with them, over false Apostles WORDS that can't even be checked by scripture , because their words contradicting Paul and John don't exist, and can't be found in the scripture anywhere
aardvark

Dunbar, UK

#19 Jul 24, 2012
sidgi wrote:
Where is the bona fides?
The bona fides are exactly where God placed them chum

2 Corinthians 1:20-22
Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.

Now, if you don't like the arrangement, I suggest that you argue with a higher authority.

If you are seeking signs and wonders as credentials, just like the Pharisees, donít worry, you will see them soon enough.

2 Thessalonians 2:8-10
The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

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#20 Jul 24, 2012
aardvark wrote:
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2 Corinthians 1:20-22
For all the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen, to the glory of God through us. Now He who establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us is God, who also has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
Paul writes to the congregation in Corinthian and says that they are anointed - "us with you" - "anointed us".
All born again Christians are anointed by the Holy Spirit.
As Paul says, God has sealed us and given us the Spirit in our hearts as a guarantee.
That's all the evidence we need.
And we don't need to prove diddly squat to you or anyone else chum.
It is funny how you always make it up as you go along. You twist it till it fits your usage. Try again Nimrod. No one reading those verses with an honest heart would take the meaning you've given to those verses.

sidgi

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