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Lannymac
Lake Charles, LA
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Boni wrote: <quoted text> Michael the archangel - pro or con - does nothing for your Trinity arguments. So that's another one of your usual red herrings. Now, as far as the Trinity is concerned. The Trinity is an unbiblical teaching which you and all of your confederates have not clearly proven otherwise with a verse we can all turn to that shows us that God is composed of a conglomeration of three persons. I thought that madjw clown was the epitome of stupidity, but you take the cake. Only a dufus arrogant clown would think it okay to argue and tell people who Jesus isn't, but think he's under no obligation to tell them who Jesus is. You're a jackass. So what's the name of your created creator christ, clown? Was that lazy meglomaniac you've made your god so mesmerized by the sound of his own name that he forgot to mention the name of his one and only work of creation...your created creator christ?
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Since: Feb 11
Tucson, AZ
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Lannymac wrote: <quoted text> Someone should have pointed that out to that pyramid worshipping APOSTATE who founded your rag-tag group, for now his eternal fate is sealed. For now the wicked sap is in the pit hell reading the original manuscript of your "thousand years to get it right" second chance salvation doctrine. Will you join Russell...OR REPENT? When Zechariah 3 fulfilled in Russell's time Jehovah whipped them with a fury, to the proper degree, Jehovah was not pleased with the anointed of that period, but He did clothe them in that minor foregleam "robes of state". So we are realistic, if Jehovah picks you, you will be scourged, maybe numerous times, for the spirit is still stuck in an Adamic body, albeit "new creation" of another world entirely. Russell and the others were chosen not due to their merit, but their faith in? Christ's ultimate perfection as a created being, Christ's merit, now Mighty God, exalted to A superior position, NOT THE Superior Position, that of Jehovah Almighty God. But in any event the 1260 day initial "two witnesses" pattern, and the following 1290 day pattern, and the 1335 all were laid solid for future anointed and all Christians, actual Christians. Now those patterns are ALL going to go into the final fulfillment replicative mode. And if you make it past the 1260 (Matt24:29-31), you will know who has the truth by that time. Soon. In the meantime, Christendom was closer to Kingdom in 1914, than they are today, they still aint putting together a single pattern, except the heaven racket they sell. That will ALL come crashing down shortly. The final "two witnesses" though, they aren't escaping either, but they are headed for Temple 144000 completion, in the face of all the world left alive at that time. Christ Court of Daniel 7:26 final fulfillment soon follows. Looks like God allowed Russell to nail it, even in his partial state of understanding.
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Since: Feb 11
Tucson, AZ
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dee lightful wrote: <quoted text>Thank you point for your honesty for it seems if you believe what you said then you do believe in hell fire."You "Jesus" idol worshipers are the ones heading for flames." Has true scripture finally gotten through to you? If so look at it and own it and come out of that org of men that you are following. No, the point is worshiping Jesus will not get you anywhere. You have to worship the God Jesus worships, NOT himself by the way; Rev14:12
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Since: Sep 08
Brooklyn, NY
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Lannymac wrote: <quoted text> I thought that madjw clown was the epitome of stupidity, but you take the cake. Only a dufus arrogant clown would think it okay to argue and tell people who Jesus isn't, but think he's under no obligation to tell them who Jesus is. You're a jackass. So what's the name of your created creator christ, clown? Was that lazy meglomaniac you've made your god so mesmerized by the sound of his own name that he forgot to mention the name of his one and only work of creation...your created creator christ? You are in lovely form. Did someone pee in your cornflakes this morning? LOL
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Since: Jul 11
Portadown
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Boni wrote: <quoted text> What thread was that? <quoted text> I took your quote of Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only." And thought it was funny because I often use Matthew 24:36 show that Jesus is not God nor that he is part of the Trinity. If he was either, then he would know, wouldn't he? Now it is especially funny in that you ignored replying to this in order to go into a bigotted tirade. <quoted text> LOL! Did someone pee in your cornflakes that morning? HA HA HA!!! :D My dear, the subject I see here is the Trinity and is it of the Devil's origin? Want to declare you don't see that subject? <quoted text> Michael the archangel - pro or con - does nothing for your Trinity arguments. So that's another one of your usual red herrings. Now, as far as the Trinity is concerned. The Trinity is an unbiblical teaching which you and all of your confederates have not clearly proven otherwise with a verse we can all turn to that shows us that God is composed of a conglomeration of three persons. The fact that it is unbiblical leads to you and everyone else to figure out who exactly was the inspiration for the Trinity. Since the Trinity misrepresents God, it shouldn't take anyone with half a brain to figure who is its inspiration. (The Devil - for those of you with less than half a brain.) All your mean spirited huffing and puffing doesn't help your (lack of) arguments. <quoted text> I do not accept the Johannine Comma as valid proof for the Trinity. 1. The verse does not appear in any of the Uncial Greek Manuscript, these being the one most important source in determining the text. 2. It appears, for the first time, in a Cursive Manuscript, translated in the fifteenth or sixteenth century. To pop up in the Middle Ages is way too late to have any sense of validity. 3. It is omitted in all of the ancient Versions, including the Vulgate by Jerome, though interpolated in some modern editions of this work which were clearly exposed. 4. The so-called Greek Fathers do not have it, even when producing texts in support of the doctrine of the "Trinity," unaccountable on the supposition that it was then a part of the sacred text. Otherwise it would have been produced and we'd have many independent references to it. Fact is - we do not. 5. The "Latin Fathers" omit it. Now I think by your negative and pompous reply that's coming-up you'll show that you had a double-portion of pee in your cornflakes this morning. LOL What a negative reply Boni!You volunteered to respond to a request to Point for a verse of Holy Scripture,to show that a basic teaching of the watch tower is not from Satan,and now thanks to you the watch tower has two failures. Your mockery regarding what is funny is typical hypocrisy of the watch tower and especially of one of their front line Generals who posts under the name of Mad. You twist that I gave MY quote of Matthew 24v:36.I don't have any personal quote of that or any other verse of Holy Scripture. Regarding independent references,would you care to discuss independent references to the "translators of the nwt? Show me which verse of Holy Scripture you "often use"to support this watch tower script? Quote,Boni Wrote. "you'll show that you had a double-portion of pee in your cornflakes this morning
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Since: Jul 11
Portadown
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20571point428571 wrote: <quoted text> No, the point is worshiping Jesus will not get you anywhere. You have to worship the God Jesus worships, NOT himself by the way; Rev14:12 Did you find that verse of Holy Scripture yet Point that ive been asking you for,just a few days short of SEVEN months now? Why not Point? Yet here you are posting more lies of the watch tower. The Holy Bible says. And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean." -Matthew 8:2 "While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live." -Matthew 9:18 "Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God." -Matthew 14:33 "Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me." -Matthew 15:25 "Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him." -Matthew 20:20 "And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him." -Matthew 28:9 "And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted." -Matthew 28:17 "And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit...But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him" -Mark 5:2, 6 Show us Point where any of those above got nowhere? Not forgetting of course the verse which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being ,while Jesus himself said in Luke 24. 39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
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Lannymac
Lake Charles, LA
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20571point428571 wrote: <quoted text> When Zechariah 3 fulfilled in Russell's time Jehovah whipped them with a fury, to the proper degree, Jehovah was not pleased with the anointed of that period, but He did clothe them in that minor foregleam "robes of state". So we are realistic, if Jehovah picks you, you will be scourged, maybe numerous times, for the spirit is still stuck in an Adamic body, albeit "new creation" of another world entirely. Russell and the others were chosen not due to their merit, but their faith in? Christ's ultimate perfection as a created being, Christ's merit, now Mighty God, exalted to A superior position, NOT THE Superior Position, that of Jehovah Almighty God. But in any event the 1260 day initial "two witnesses" pattern, and the following 1290 day pattern, and the 1335 all were laid solid for future anointed and all Christians, actual Christians. Now those patterns are ALL going to go into the final fulfillment replicative mode. And if you make it past the 1260 (Matt24:29-31), you will know who has the truth by that time. Soon. In the meantime, Christendom was closer to Kingdom in 1914, than they are today, they still aint putting together a single pattern, except the heaven racket they sell. That will ALL come crashing down shortly. The final "two witnesses" though, they aren't escaping either, but they are headed for Temple 144000 completion, in the face of all the world left alive at that time. Christ Court of Daniel 7:26 final fulfillment soon follows. Looks like God allowed Russell to nail it, even in his partial state of understanding. Yawn...more rambling idiocy from a babbling lunatic. GET HELP!
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Lannymac
Lake Charles, LA
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20571point428571 wrote: <quoted text> No, the point is worshiping Jesus will not get you anywhere. You have to worship the God Jesus worships, NOT himself by the way; Rev14:12 There's certainly no point in you worshipping Christ because you're still an unregenerated child of satan.
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Since: Feb 11
Tucson, AZ
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Lannymac wrote: <quoted text>There's certainly no point in you worshipping Christ because you're still an unregenerated child of satan. What kind of pills do you take, if you don't mind me asking?
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Since: Jul 11
Portadown
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20571point428571 wrote: <quoted text> What kind of pills do you take, if you don't mind me asking? What kind of pills do you to take Point,that causes you to expose the watch tower doctrine as being by your own definition from Satan? I'm still waiting for the verse of Holy Scripture which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being ,while Jesus himself said in Luke 24. 39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Its seven months now Point,are you any closer to finding it?
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Snorkler
Johannesburg, South Africa
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rachel123 wrote: <quoted text> What kind of pills do you to take Point,that causes you to expose the watch tower doctrine as being by your own definition from Satan? I'm still waiting for the verse of Holy Scripture which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being ,while Jesus himself said in Luke 24. 39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Its seven months now Point,are you any closer to finding it? What will you do with if he decides to show you a scripture that proves that fact ,will you chew it up then vomit it out again ?
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dee lightful
Piedmont, SC
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Snorkler wrote: <quoted text>What will you do with if he decides to show you a scripture that proves that fact ,will you chew it up then vomit it out again ? Christ own words have proven he was not a spirit and yet you continue to deny it and vomit up the WT lies. When will you learn to believe Jesus always tells his children the truth? When do you learn it is the father of the lie that denies Jesus at every turn? When do you finally learn to be a Christian instead of a Watchtowerite?
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Snorkler
Johannesburg, South Africa
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dee lightful wrote: <quoted text> Christ own words have proven he was not a spirit and yet you continue to deny it and vomit up the WT lies. When will you learn to believe Jesus always tells his children the truth? When do you learn it is the father of the lie that denies Jesus at every turn? When do you finally learn to be a Christian instead of a Watchtowerite? Go speak to your Father Xmas , i have no time to entertain you .
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Since: Jul 11
Portadown
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Snorkler wrote: <quoted text>What will you do with if he decides to show you a scripture that proves that fact ,will you chew it up then vomit it out again ? I will still insist on what I asked for! Quote. "I'm still waiting for the verse of Holy Scripture which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being ,while Jesus himself said in Luke 24. 39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Its seven months now Point,are you any closer to finding it?" I'm so glad that you have chosen to partake in this debate Snorkler,because it seems to me Point has got a little bit lost and rarely responds now. The Holy Scriptures teaches us. Romans 1: 16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Mark 16. 15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. In light of this command from God,why do you ask the question, Quote!.. What will you do with if he decides to show you a scripture that proves that fact ,will you chew it up then vomit it out again ? If he is a true servant of Christ,the decision to show or with hold a scripture is not up to him. I'm not in the slightest interested who shows this verse,but in the verse itself,please reveal it to us Snorkler?
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Snorkler
Johannesburg, South Africa
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rachel123 wrote: <quoted text> I will still insist on what I asked for! Quote. "I'm still waiting for the verse of Holy Scripture which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being ,while Jesus himself said in Luke 24. 39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Its seven months now Point,are you any closer to finding it?" I'm so glad that you have chosen to partake in this debate Snorkler,because it seems to me Point has got a little bit lost and rarely responds now. The Holy Scriptures teaches us. Romans 1: 16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Mark 16. 15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. In light of this command from God,why do you ask the question, Quote!.. What will you do with if he decides to show you a scripture that proves that fact ,will you chew it up then vomit it out again ? If he is a true servant of Christ,the decision to show or with hold a scripture is not up to him. I'm not in the slightest interested who shows this verse,but in the verse itself,please reveal it to us Snorkler? What exactly would you like me to show you , i am not 100% sure what your arguement is and i dont have much time to go through the thread ....? I think i have a scripture but i jusy need to know what exactly you are looking for .
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dee lightful
Piedmont, SC
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Snorkler wrote: <quoted text>What exactly would you like me to show you , i am not 100% sure what your arguement is and i dont have much time to go through the thread ....? I think i have a scripture but i jusy need to know what exactly you are looking for . How plain can she get, "I'm still waiting for the verse of Holy Scripture which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being " Let us all see the scripture or are you going to pretend you don't know what she has been asking for?
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dee lightful
Piedmont, SC
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Snorkler wrote: <quoted text>Go speak to your Father Xmas , i have no time to entertain you . Go to your false God the WT/GB, and ask them what you should say because you don't know what the scriptures say and you need false prophets to teach you lies because your not bright enough to know the differences between a lie and the truth. Can we say dumber than a bucket of rocks that you have in your head!
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dee lightful
Piedmont, SC
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rachel123 wrote: <quoted text> I will still insist on what I asked for! Quote. "I'm still waiting for the verse of Holy Scripture which shows the watch tower teaching that Jesus was resurrected only as a spirit being ,while Jesus himself said in Luke 24. 39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Its seven months now Point,are you any closer to finding it?" I'm so glad that you have chosen to partake in this debate Snorkler,because it seems to me Point has got a little bit lost and rarely responds now. The Holy Scriptures teaches us. Romans 1: 16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek. Mark 16. 15. And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. In light of this command from God,why do you ask the question, Quote!.. What will you do with if he decides to show you a scripture that proves that fact ,will you chew it up then vomit it out again ? If he is a true servant of Christ,the decision to show or with hold a scripture is not up to him. I'm not in the slightest interested who shows this verse,but in the verse itself,please reveal it to us Snorkler? It's an old trick of Shorkler, and the devils, to pretend they are willing to answer your question but pretend they don't know what the question is.Your question is plainly stated but he ask what it is. He has done this to many questions and pretends he has the answers but alas, if only he had the question!
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red blood relative
United States
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me too, i can't wait for the answer! i think a jw once told me it was a body he borrowed, that happened to have nail holes in it. see, jesus was doing theocratic warfare, so he was lying his arse off to promote the kingdom.
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Since: Feb 11
Tucson, AZ
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Lannymac wrote: <quoted text> Yawn...more rambling idiocy from a babbling lunatic. GET HELP! What meds are you on? Clonezapam? Seroquel? What pills do you take? Just curious, I figure you are on meds of some sort.
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