If founding fathers were muslims, what would America be today?

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Mawar wrote:

When founding fathers were Muslims, how would America be then?
With the current rate of Islamic propagation in America, Muslims will probably make up the majority in year 2200.
In 2200, they would probably indentify some of the prominent American Muslims as the founding fathers of Islamic America such as Muhammad Ali, Malcolm X, the American taliban, the muslim congressman, the muslim ambassador to Iraq and afghanistan, hamza yusuf, and al-awlaki, muslim ball players, muslim writers and scientists, and a whole lot of other muslims.
In 2200, the United States of Muslim America would not be as bad as the previous United States of America.

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Mawar wrote:

When founding fathers were Muslims, how would America be then?
With the current rate of Islamic propagation in America, Muslims will probably make up the majority in year 2200.

In 2200, they would probably indentify some of the prominent American Muslims as the founding fathers of Islamic America such as Muhammad Ali, Malcolm X, the American taliban, the muslim congressman, the muslim ambassador to Iraq and afghanistan, hamza yusuf, and al-awlaki, muslim ball players, muslim writers and scientists, and a whole lot of other muslims.

In 2200, the United States of Muslim America would not be as bad as the previous United States of America.

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Roberta G wrote:

<quoted text>I can't speak for Rusty and LBer or anyone else, Mawar, but your pathetic attempts to TAUNT Americans into some kind of hysterical tantrum won't work on ME.
America has no interest in being governed by Muslims or sharia law, Mawar. Our system of government was lovingly, carefully constructed by people who held a bone-deep belief in the right of each and every human being to determine his own destiny.
But they were also realists. They knew that the rights guaranteed to Americans would not be respected outside American borders, and that there was a certain large segment of the human race that wants to impose its will on as much of the rest of the world as it could manage. The persons making up this group might be English snobs as they were in 1776, Nazi Germans trying to take over the world as they did in Europe in the 1930s and 1940s or Communist bureaucrats or Syrian politicians murdering their own citizens.
They might be as infamous as a Hitler or a Saddam Hussein or a Josef Stalin, or as petty as the mean customer abusing a salesclerk (I have PLENTY of experience with that one!) They might try to rationalize their actions as being "for the greater good" or claim that the people they want to dominate actually LIKE being controlled, like American southern plantation owners said of their slaves prior to the American Civil War, 1861-1865.
And frequently they use religion as a tool. Catholics did this in Europe, especially between 1450-1650...and MUSLIMS ARE DOING IT TODAY.
Well, Mawar, many Americans have laid down their lives so that no one, NO ONE inside or outside of American borders, can ever do it again. In fact, today is what we Americans call "Memorial Day," the day we set aside once a year to thank our veterans and especially to remember those who died so that the rest of us could enjoy our freedom to live as we wish. If you think, Mawar, that Americans today are no longer willing to fight for our nation and our freedom, take it from me, Mawar, you're wrong. Americans have NEVER been afraid to sacrifice their lives when they believed in their cause, and that is never going to change.
You don't believe me? Come over here, Mawar, and find out.

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Mawar wrote:

But why do Americans bent on committing suicide, torching their own respective little corners of the country, and penetrating each other of the same sex?
Isn't this behavior indication of the eventual decline of American society?
Muslims, on the other hand, have never been part of these madness. We are safe.

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Mawar wrote:

But why do Americans bent on committing suicide, torching their own respective little corners of the country, and penetrating each other of the same sex?
Isn't this behavior indication of the eventual decline of American society?

Muslims, on the other hand, have never been part of these madness. We are safe.

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Trisha wrote:

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Typical muslim........you're not interested in a true discussion. You by passed all the excellent posts in response to you. Ignoring them doesn't make you right.

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Roberta G wrote:

<quoted text>I can't .... In fact, today is what we Americans call "Memorial Day," the day we set aside once a year to thank our veterans and especially to remember those who died so that the rest of us could enjoy our freedom to live as we wish. If you think, Mawar, that Americans today are no longer willing to fight for our nation and our freedom, take it from me, Mawar, you're wrong. Americans have NEVER been afraid to sacrifice their lives when they believed in their cause, and that is never going to change.
You don't believe me? Come over here, Mawar, and find out.

Mawar wrote:

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I don't. many of these poor soldiers dragged into Afghanistan because they couldn't find job.
All the wealthy soldiers....Well, there aren't any wealthy soldiers because wealthy families don't let their sons to be army.
So its all about poor Americans fighting for wealthy Americans. Or to certain degree, colored Americans fighting for white Americans.
And you are calling these Americans fighting for nation and freedom. No way, I won't believe that.

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Mawar wrote:

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I don't. many of these poor soldiers dragged into Afghanistan because they couldn't find job.
All the wealthy soldiers....Well, there aren't any wealthy soldiers because wealthy families don't let their sons to be army.
So its all about poor Americans fighting for wealthy Americans. Or to certain degree, colored Americans fighting for white Americans.
And you are calling these Americans fighting for nation and freedom. No way, I won't believe that.

Trisha wrote:

We can't fix your willful ignorance. But you prove you're biased and so unable to be reasonable.

Roberta G wrote:

"BECAME ALGONQUIN CHIEFS" ?!? Seriously???
Well, Rusty, you gotta hand this to 'em, at least: their powers of imagination and invention are unparalleled :D

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Roberta G wrote:

I can't speak for Rusty ...

Rusty Tin Can wrote:

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Mawar, again you're speaking from your imagination.
Actually the total percentage of whites in the army is higher than their population percentage, blacks are also enlisted in comparable proportion. Other "colored" group are not joining army in proportion as high as whites and blacks.

http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/docs/demographi...
US Population Statustics
Comparison of U.S. Army and U.S. Population
(note: the first % is the percentage from total population within the age-education range, the second % is the percentage from enlisted army belonging to the group)
Population Estimate 18-24 Years Old with Highschool
White 57% Enlisted 62%
Black 18% Enlisted 20%
Hispanic 20% Enlisted 13%
Other 5% Enlisted 5%
Population Estimate 18-39 Years Old with Highschool
White 57% Enlisted 60%
Black 17 % Enlisted 21%
Hispanic 22% Enlisted 13%
Other 5% Enlisted 6%
Population Estimate 25-54 Years Old with College degree
White 73% Enlisted 72%
Black 9% Enlisted 13%
Hispanic 8% Enlisted 6%
Other 10% Enlisted 9%

You may also be interested in this pdf:
Blacks in the U.S. Army - Then and Now
http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/docs/demographi...
More states avail here:
http://www.armyg1.army.mil/hr/demographics.as...