+++++++++++++ Husband Shall Rule Over Women in CHRISTANITY +++++++++++++

He Shall Rule Over You

The blaming of women for the entrance of sin into the world, and the sentiments behind the phrase he shall rule over you in Genesis 3:16 have possibly led to more oppression of women in marriages than any other in the Bible. Throughout history, women have often been seen as the cause of all the evil that has flowed from the Fall. Tertullian wrote regarding women:

And do you not know that you are (each) an Eve? The sentence of God on this sex of yours lives in this age: the guilt must of necessity live too. You are the devil’s gateway: you are the unsealer of that (forbidden) tree: you are the first deserter of the divine law: you are she who persuaded him whom the devil was not valiant enough to attack. You destroyed so easily God’s image, man. On account of your desert — that is, death — even the Son of God had to die.(Roberts & Donaldson 1997, p. 25)

Chrysostom declared, on the basis of Genesis 3:16, that God ‘gives to the husband abundant precedence.’ And Calvin described women as

... more guilty than the man, because she was seduced by Satan, and so diverted her husband from obedience to God that she was an instrument of death leading all to perdition. It is necessary that woman recognise this, and that she learn to what she is subjected; and not only against her husband. This is reason enough why today she is placed below and that she bears within her ignominy and shame.(cited in Brown 1991, p. 113)
This view is also shared by many modern writers. For example, Francis Schaeffer, writing on God’s Judgment on Man and Nature, argues that

In regard to the relationship to her husband, he [God] says, "And thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." This one sentence puts an end to any unstructured democracy. In a fallen world, unstructured democracy is not possible. Rather, God brings structure into the primary relationship of man — the man-woman relationship. In a fallen world (in every kind of society — big and small — and in every relationship) structure is needed for order. God Himself here imposes it on the basic human relationship. Form is given, and without such form freedom would only be chaos. It is not simply because man is stronger that he is to have dominion (that’s the argument of the Marquis de Sade). But rather he is to have dominion because God gives this as structure in the midst of a fallen world.(1985)

Bible Curses Women. toooo bad

The woman would experience increased sorrow and conception, would suffer pain as part of childbirth, would desire her husband, and her husband would rule over her.

This is true Christanity,

And these so-called christians question muslims as Why In Islam a women should submit her will to her husband. They accuse muslim husbands of ruling over the women.

Muslims should read and know the true christanity before answering any questions asked by these christians.

bullox Evil ....

It is so silly ... LOL ... You are a pathetic fanatic ... and you have no idea about the Bible.

You are fanatic because you follow absolutely everything in the koran, and you forget that most people do not follow everything in the bible.

Where do you think western society would be if men were to treat women like it says in the bible?... LOL ....

Are you really part of the UK society, or are you just a poor outsider looking in and guessing where everyone else is at??

I feel really quite sorry for you ..

Danetoo wrote:

bullox Evil ....
It is so silly ... LOL ... You are a pathetic fanatic ... and you have no idea about the Bible.
You are fanatic because you follow absolutely everything in the koran, and you forget that most people do not follow everything in the bible.
Where do you think western society would be if men were to treat women like it says in the bible?... LOL ....
Are you really part of the UK society, or are you just a poor outsider looking in and guessing where everyone else is at??
I feel really quite sorry for you ..

lol ....... what made u think i follow koran ???? Once again you proved that you are a mentally retarded person. you poor pathetic creature.

do u have any idea about your bible.

i think i'll have to give u some classes.

Where do you think western society would be if men were to treat women like it says in the bible?

You have just proved that westerners do not follow their bible because they for the fact know that bible is a filthy book full of crap and lies. And therefore they have thrown it away.

read this to gain some more knowledge about your Bible. Its too sad u dont even know your own shit religion.

8 Bible reasons why a wife must submit to her husband regardless of culture:

http://www.bible.ca/marriage/submission-indep...

Dear readers

Danetoo have just proved that western society does not beleive in bible anymore, nor do they accept bible as a book inspired by God.
She at last accepted the fact that if one follows bible and its teaching, he/she would eventually endup living a miserable life. Proving that bible is not a way to success but a way towards disaster and failure.

please read her words again .... "Where do you think western society would be if men were to treat women like it says in the bible? "

She has clearly stated in her post that if western countries follow bible, they would fail, therefore to avoid such a misery they have either rejected the bible or completely changed it (suiting their own needs and interest).

Poor Danetoo ... how far will she run from her religion and her bible. looks like bible has become a cause of embarrassment for her.

Christanity - What a fake man made religion.!!!!!
Even their God was kicked to death. lol

Are you going off on an ego trip here mister? Looks like it. Yeah so exactly what is your point here? That the bible is evil,? or the fact that you shall do your utmost to prove women are nothing to men in society? Choose one, not both?

I am asking as a woman, not as a believer. So please give me the respect to answer to the best of your abilities. Thank you!

Lusen wrote:

Are you going off on an ego trip here mister? Looks like it. Yeah so exactly what is your point here? That the bible is evil,? or the fact that you shall do your utmost to prove women are nothing to men in society? Choose one, not both?
I am asking as a woman, not as a believer. So please give me the respect to answer to the best of your abilities. Thank you!

My point is , why is Bible so unfair with women. Why is the women always blamed ? why cant bible give some repect to women ? why should according to the bible, the women submit her will to her husband.

The women should have her own will. without submitting it to anyone. Why does bible treat women like slaves ???

Women rights activist should condemn such teachings of bible and they should abandon such religion and such a God that teaches its human to treat women like slaves.

Evil_Bible wrote:

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My point is , why is Bible so unfair with women. Why is the women always blamed ? why cant bible give some repect to women ? why should according to the bible, the women submit her will to her husband.
The women should have her own will. without submitting it to anyone. Why does bible treat women like slaves ???
Women rights activist should condemn such teachings of bible and they should abandon such religion and such a God that teaches its human to treat women like slaves.

Couldn't answer you .... I have never raised my kids to live by this, all 4 boys have the utmost respect for all humans. Period! Since I am a single mother and have been for over 16 years, I have never had the problem to submit to anyone..and I doubt I ever will. I am my own person till the end! Sorry can't help you here.

Lusen wrote:

<quoted text>Couldn't answer you .... I have never raised my kids to live by this, all 4 boys have the utmost respect for all humans. Period! Since I am a single mother and have been for over 16 years, I have never had the problem to submit to anyone..and I doubt I ever will. I am my own person till the end! Sorry can't help you here.

so u havent lived your life according to the teachings of bible. thats good then . ANd i hope your kids wont either.
i am against women abuse, so should every man be.

If bible ask women to submit her will to her husband. Then i would never wish any women or man to read bible. Man and women should equal .

Lusen, a women came out of man's rib (bible). not from his feet to be walked on.
not from his head to be superior,but from the side to be equal , under the arm to be protected and next to the heart to be loved.

I find noo reason for women to submit their will to their husband.- therefore i reject bible and its teachings. and urge other to do the same. REJECT BIBLE!!

Evil_Bible wrote:

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so u havent lived your life according to the teachings of bible. thats good then . ANd i hope your kids wont either.
i am against women abuse, so should every man be.
If bible ask women to submit her will to her husband. Then i would never wish any women or man to read bible. Man and women should equal .
Lusen, a women came out of man's rib (bible). not from his feet to be walked on.
not from his head to be superior,but from the side to be equal , under the arm to be protected and next to the heart to be loved.
I find noo reason for women to submit their will to their husband.- therefore i reject bible and its teachings. and urge other to do the same. REJECT BIBLE!!

Yeah single life suits me just fine, thank you :)

Reject bible? NEVER! It's God's word, and should be obeyed! It's GOOD, good for the soul!

Evil_Bible wrote:

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so u havent lived your life according to the teachings of bible. thats good then . ANd i hope your kids wont either.
i am against women abuse, so should every man be.
If bible ask women to submit her will to her husband. Then i would never wish any women or man to read bible. Man and women should equal .
Lusen, a women came out of man's rib (bible). not from his feet to be walked on.
not from his head to be superior,but from the side to be equal , under the arm to be protected and next to the heart to be loved.
I find noo reason for women to submit their will to their husband.- therefore i reject bible and its teachings. and urge other to do the same. REJECT BIBLE!!

Now don't get me wrong...I believe in god........ but he is MY god, and I hate to share:)

Evil_Bible wrote:

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so u havent lived your life according to the teachings of bible. thats good then . ANd i hope your kids wont either.
i am against women abuse, so should every man be.
If bible ask women to submit her will to her husband. Then i would never wish any women or man to read bible. Man and women should equal .
Lusen, a women came out of man's rib (bible). not from his feet to be walked on.
not from his head to be superior,but from the side to be equal , under the arm to be protected and next to the heart to be loved.
I find noo reason for women to submit their will to their husband.- therefore i reject bible and its teachings. and urge other to do the same. REJECT BIBLE!!

It is just a Question, So dont get angry ^^;

What do you follow "Evil_Bible"? I am serious
are you an atheist, Please correct me :D

Evil_Bible wrote:

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Lusen, a women came out of man's rib (bible). not from his feet to be walked on.
not from his head to be superior,but from the side to be equal , under the arm to be protected and next to the heart to be loved.

Talmud is not the Bible. Be very careful if you make a woman cry... This is written in the Hebrew Talmud &#1514;&#1500;&#15 02;&#1493;&#1491; which is the record of rabbinic discussions pertaining to Jewish law, ethics, customs and history. It is the encyclopedia of all Jewish existence.

It is a very nice saying.

I would like to give my two cents.

The bible does say that women sould submit to their husbands, but, i don't recall wear it says to beat, her treat, her like a slave, make her wear something like a tent, just so the men are protected from the beauty of their women.

I guess the men of the islamic culture, do not have the intestinal fortitude to control their sexual urges. And when the women can not get legal protection against rapists, and have to resort to killing their attackers, and then get hung in public for trying to defend themselves. You guys do not have the right to talk about how Christians treat their wifes.

Here you have some change coming back to you.

Happy trails

According to the Bible (The Amazing book of God):
If a woman gets raped, she should be married to her rapist.

And the same woman is then ordered to submit her will to her bloody rapist husband.
Now what sort of a justic is that? Why should i woman be married to that evil rapist bast**d.

And thats not it! She is further ordered to submit her will to this son of bi**h.

WHY ? so that this rapist can rape and abuse her every day ?

wake up guys, wake up from the darkness of ignorance. how could you people ever follow such a book that teaches so much nonsense.

Get out of this religion and stuff. Dont spend your precious life in a false fantasy of heaven. There is no heaven and hell. And if there is, can you prove it ???

lol

HALA wrote:

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It is just a Question, So dont get angry ^^;
What do you follow "Evil_Bible"? I am serious
are you an atheist, Please correct me :D

yes!

i am an athesit. I dont follow blind faith which makes no sense to me.

IAMlives wrote:

Reject bible? NEVER! It's God's word, and should be obeyed! It's GOOD, good for the soul!

ok, then keep following it. but keep it limited to yourself, dont ask others to follow it. And dont cause trouble to others

keep obeying the words of God.

Follow the O.T and end up in Jail . Follow the N.T ...

Cruelty and Violence in the New Testament :
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/nt....

Lusen wrote:

<quoted text>Now don't get me wrong...I believe in god........ but he is MY god, and I hate to share:)

no comment!!

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