Quran commands muslims to go forth in JIHAD

Surah-9:39, Unless ye go forth,(for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.[Allah’s hatred to those who are reluctant to join Islamic jihad]

Native wrote:

Surah-9:39, Unless ye go forth,(for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.[Allah’s hatred to those who are reluctant to join Islamic jihad]

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Murder in the Bible
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God's irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children.
The following passages are a very small percentage of the total passages approving of murder in the Bible. They are divided here into three parts: 1) Capital Punishment Crimes, 2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons, 3) Murdering Children, and 4) Miscellaneous Murders. This list is long, but it barely scratches the surface of all the murders approved of in the Bible.
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1) Capital Punishment Crimes:
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live.(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.(2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)
Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through.(Zechariah 13:3 NAB)
Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)
Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst.(Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)
Kill Followers of Other Religions.
1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst.(Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)
2) Suppose a man or woman among you, in one of your towns that the LORD your God is giving you, has done evil in the sight of the LORD your God and has violated the covenant by serving other gods or by worshiping the sun, the moon, or any of the forces of heaven, which I have strictly forbidden. When you hear about it, investigate the matter thoroughly. If it is true that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, then that man or woman must be taken to the gates of the town and stoned to death.(Deuteronomy 17:2-5 NLT)

Death for Blasphemy
One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die.(Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)
Kill False Prophets
1) Suppose there are prophets among you, or those who have dreams about the future, and they promise you signs or miracles, and the predicted signs or miracles take place. If the prophets then say,'Come, let us worship the gods of foreign nations,' do not listen to them. The LORD your God is testing you to see if you love him with all your heart and soul. Serve only the LORD your God and fear him alone. Obey his commands, listen to his voice, and cling to him. The false prophets or dreamers who try to lead you astray must be put to death, for they encourage rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of slavery in the land of Egypt. Since they try to keep you from following the LORD your God, you must execute them to remove the evil from among you.(Deuteronomy 13:1-5 NLT)
2) But any prophet who claims to give a message from another god or who falsely claims to speak for me must die.' You may wonder,'How will we know whether the prophecy is from the LORD or not?' If the prophet predicts something in the LORD's name and it does not happen, the LORD did not give the message. That prophet has spoken on his own and need not be feared.(Deuteronomy 18:20-22 NLT)
Infidels and Gays Should Die
So God let them go ahead and do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. Instead of believing what they knew was the truth about God, they deliberately chose to believe lies. So they worshiped the things God made but not the Creator himself, who is to be praised forever. Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relationships with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men and, as a result, suffered within themselves the penalty they so richly deserved. When they refused to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their evil minds and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, fighting, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They are forever inventing new ways of sinning and are disobedient to their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, and are heartless and unforgiving. They are fully aware of God's death penalty for those who do these things, yet they go right ahead and do them anyway. And, worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too.(Romans 1:24-32 NLT)

There's more if need be.....

Miss guided Christian are peaceful Christian, we see today! It's good being miss guided Christian!

multi kultural wrote:

Miss guided Christian are peaceful Christian, we see today! It's good being miss guided Christian!

I see you have no debate on this post, just a one liner ranting.
nice intellect..........not

Reality wrote:

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I see you have no debate on this post, just a one liner ranting.
nice intellect..........not

I just debate, if i want to. Most of debate and prank come from stupid points, that people made. So i used it as my basis to exploit people stupidity.

For example: If i saz Christian are hermaphrodite. And Christian people ask my prove. Then i gave my prove (Matthew 19:12).

Becoz i am doin that, my mission to exploit people stupidity are success.

REALITY
God made CAPITAL PUNISHMENT laws so you will have to take it up with him. By the way STOP using jewish verses for us Christians. At least use verses from the NEW TESTAMENT that the Christians follow and stop taking them out of CONTEXT. I do NOT see Christians going around and saying IN THE NAME OF JESUS THEN CHOPPING SOMEONES HEAD OFF, but I do see muslims going around in over 80 countries and saying ALLAH CHOPBAR and bam you lose your head. Muslims are SATAN'S WARRIORS they are doing SATAN'S work but to stupid to see they are.

Reality wrote:

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Murder in the Bible
The act of murder is rampant in the Bible. In much of the Bible, especially the Old Testament, there are laws that command that people be killed for absurd reasons such as working on the Sabbath, being gay, cursing your parents, or not being a virgin on your wedding night. In addition to these crazy and immoral laws, there are plenty of examples of God's irrationality by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children.
The following passages are a very small percentage of the total passages approving of murder in the Bible. They are divided here into three parts: 1) Capital Punishment Crimes, 2) God's Murders for Stupid Reasons, 3) Murdering Children, and 4) Miscellaneous Murders. This list is long, but it barely scratches the surface of all the murders approved of in the Bible.
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1) Capital Punishment Crimes:
Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel.(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
Kill Witches
You should not let a sorceress live.(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
Kill Homosexuals
"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)
Kill Fortunetellers
A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death.(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death.(Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness.(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense.(Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Death for Adultery
If a man commits adultery with another man's wife, both the man and the woman must be put to death.(Leviticus 20:10 NLT)
Death for Fornication
A priest's daughter who loses her honor by committing fornication and thereby dishonors her father also, shall be burned to death.(Leviticus 21:9 NAB)
Death to Followers of Other Religions
Whoever sacrifices to any god, except the Lord alone, shall be doomed.(Exodus 22:19 NAB)

multi kultural wrote:

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I just debate, if i want to. Most of debate and prank come from stupid points, that people made. So i used it as my basis to exploit people stupidity.
For example: If i saz Christian are hermaphrodite. And Christian people ask my prove. Then i gave my prove (Matthew 19:12).
Becoz i am doin that, my mission to exploit people stupidity are success.

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"Becoz i am doin that, my mission to exploit people stupidity are success."
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THUS YOU BECOME STUPID YOURSELF lol
one is stupid because. one has a closed mind. to other options.

REALITY
AGAIN more Jewish text do you know the difference between a JEW and a Christian? THERE 2 DIFFERENT GROUPS or are you that stupid you cannot figure that out? LOL
All the Verses you gave me do NOT talk about the CHRISTIANS but the Jews and what they did. NOW show me where the CHRISTIANS killed the muslims or ordered to. YOU CAN'T because you know your a LIAR.

Reality wrote:

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"Becoz i am doin that, my mission to exploit people stupidity are success."
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THUS YOU BECOME STUPID YOURSELF lol
one is stupid because. one has a closed mind. to other options.

Oh man!!! Mohammad learn to kill ex-believer from Moses. So if i close my mind from Christian and Muslim idea. My chance of becoming terrorist are 0%.

So i close my mind from religion.

Native wrote:

REALITY
AGAIN more Jewish text do you know the difference between a JEW and a Christian? THERE 2 DIFFERENT GROUPS or are you that stupid you cannot figure that out? LOL
All the Verses you gave me do NOT talk about the CHRISTIANS but the Jews and what they did. NOW show me where the CHRISTIANS killed the muslims or ordered to. YOU CAN'T because you know your a LIAR.

Still, those verses in the Old Testament are from the same god, right?
or, are they abrogated??

Matthew 10:33-35 (New International Version)
34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -

Native wrote:

Surah-9:39, Unless ye go forth,(for Jihad) He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place; but Him ye would not harm in the least.[Allah’s hatred to those who are reluctant to join Islamic jihad]

Self defense is not forbidden in Islam and why Allah legitimized jihad was because the prophet (PBUH) and the early Muslims were expelled from their land (Mecca) because of their faith and were killed and persecuted because of their faith so God allowed them to use swords and force in order to stop the oppression and injustice and get back their land and liberate the Kaaba from the unbelievers.

The Quran
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To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-

022.040
Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is Allah. And had there not been Allah's repelling some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allah's name is much remembered; and surely Allah will help him who helps His cause; most surely Allah is Strong, Mighty.

SARAH
It was the JEWS that did those things NOT Christians at least be fair, SO WHAT SAME GOD it was STILL the Jews that did those things NOT the Christians.

Sarah ___ wrote:

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Still, those verses in the Old Testament are from the same god, right?
or, are they abrogated??

SARAH
LEARN THE VERSES he meant SPIRITUALLY because when someone becomes a christian most times it puts strife between that person and their family especially if people in their family are NOT Christians.

Sarah ___ wrote:

Matthew 10:33-35 (New International Version)
34"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to turn
" 'a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother,
a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law -

SARAH
Self defense? Muslims are NOT being persecuted like the Christians who are giving bibles to people and then they have ACID thrown in the face because they are Christians. STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM you muslims are the ones doing this to people I do NOT see Christians chopping heads off and throwing acid at people just because their muslims.
Muslims serve SATAN he is the leader of the muslims thats why he has the muslims do WICKED VILE THINGS to people. NO HUMAN in their right mind would chop a persons head off NOR throw acid in their face unless they are DEMON possessed and satan makes them do it.
You muslims expell people from their homes all the time. YOU MUSLIMS ARE THE WORLDS PROBLEM AND THE SOONER ISLAM IS TAKEN DOWN THE SOONER THE WORLD WILL BE IN A SAFE PLACE AGAIN. For 1400 yrs now ISLAM has cause nothing but STRIFE and I dare another 9/11 attack happen in this country USA and you will find out how angry people REALLY ARE towards the muslims you aint seen NOTHING yet.
You want to bring JIHAD TO AMERICA you better be ready for HOW we respond.

Sarah ___ wrote:

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Self defense is not forbidden in Islam and why Allah legitimized jihad was because the prophet (PBUH) and the early Muslims were expelled from their land (Mecca) because of their faith and were killed and persecuted because of their faith so God allowed them to use swords and force in order to stop the oppression and injustice and get back their land and liberate the Kaaba from the unbelievers.
The Quran
022.039
To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged;- and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid;-
022.040
Those who have been expelled from their homes without a just cause except that they say: Our Lord is Allah. And had there not been Allah's repelling some people by others, certainly there would have been pulled down cloisters and churches and synagogues and mosques in which Allah's name is much remembered; and surely Allah will help him who helps His cause; most surely Allah is Strong, Mighty.

Native wrote:

SARAH
It was the JEWS that did those things NOT Christians at least be fair, SO WHAT SAME GOD it was STILL the Jews that did those things NOT the Christians.
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But those verses are in the Old Testament from the same god. Are they abrogated or not?

Native wrote:

SARAH
Self defense? Muslims are NOT being persecuted like the Christians who are giving bibles to people and then they have ACID thrown in the face because they are Christians. STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM you muslims are the ones doing this to people I do NOT see Christians chopping heads off and throwing acid at people just because their muslims.
Muslims serve SATAN he is the leader of the muslims thats why he has the muslims do WICKED VILE THINGS to people. NO HUMAN in their right mind would chop a persons head off NOR throw acid in their face unless they are DEMON possessed and satan makes them do it.
You muslims expell people from their homes all the time. YOU MUSLIMS ARE THE WORLDS PROBLEM AND THE SOONER ISLAM IS TAKEN DOWN THE SOONER THE WORLD WILL BE IN A SAFE PLACE AGAIN. For 1400 yrs now ISLAM has cause nothing but STRIFE and I dare another 9/11 attack happen in this country USA and you will find out how angry people REALLY ARE towards the muslims you aint seen NOTHING yet.
You want to bring JIHAD TO AMERICA you better be ready for HOW we respond.
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God really exists. He is unbiased and fair and he knows everything. He is watching you Native so don’t post lies and be fair.