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Rabbi Cohen wrote: <quoted text> Dear “stoned” immigrant....you are incapable of learning “about” Christianity until you learn the language including English! We are quite familiar with the scriptures and our team has reasonable expertise in the languages that best convey the message of G-d. You cannot even type the word "God", how can you do that? Try typing "God", not G dash d. What is G dash d? You are afraid of Him?
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Stones wrote: <quoted text> RAbbit, our good buddy, you said the most excellent thing. You said "You are a bit thick to link this to the Moslems who were NOT even around then." Think about it. If Jesus' word was good about the people around him then and also is good about the people now (your Pakistani Moslems), it only says Jesus' word is ETERNAL - good for yesterday, today and tomorrow. Hope you one day start preaching Jesus' word and become Christian flush your hate from within you. You are trying hard to pretend that you are not an indian hind-u. Being a non Abrahamaic person you have to work hard to grasp the real essence of our faiths to which you have NO blood ties. Please try not to drag in people who have nothing to do with what Jesus said. Jesus certainly was also referring to hind-u pagans because they do everything against G-d of Abraham. As mentioned previously, you will not be able to understand Christianity properly until you learn the relevant languages. The Jewish people do NOT need Jesus to have access to G-d of Abraham. We can do that as individuals. Even Moslems have access to G-d but unfortunately the Christians have created an artificial barrier for themselves through "Jesus". This was done by vested interests preserving status quo since the "departure" of Jesus.
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Stones wrote: <quoted text> You cannot even type the word "God", how can you do that? Try typing "God", not G dash d. What is G dash d? You are afraid of Him? If you cannot understand why please go and find out.
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Rabbi Cohen wrote: <quoted text> You are a LIAR. All who belong to Team Rabbi are Jewish and the interfaith group has members form other faiths. all who belong to team rabbi??? Where is this team? where do they meet? Where can we see their publications? Why no jew in london has heard of you or your team? Give us a clue 'rabbi', why is this team so well hidden that nobody had heard of it? Are you a secret society?
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Serah wrote: <quoted text> Hi there Enough; indeed this site has altered its' stance and is now much more level headed, and interesting to say the least. I thought I would pop here the link of a young female artist, who acknowledges that she is Blessed by God, and her Mother, who was an atheist, altered her view when her daughter, from the age of 9 or younger, created art that is harldy less than miraculous. http://www.artakiane.com/ I hope you enjoy the site, and indeed I think she is truly a miracle sent to us by God, and indeed it does not matter which religion we say we are, as long as we have honour and peaceful intent. After all, that is how each of us shall be Judged, on our very personal Judgement day; Blessings to all as always, Serah thanks for the link serah
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Rabbi Cohen wrote: <quoted text> Look here dear "confused"; rubbish. G-d of Abraham NEVER came down to earth in human form and He NEVER dies. asapeaking of rubbish. Look at your false prophets satanic verses, it was no mirage, It was from your and his god, allah,, Paul never did give satan's words as God's, neither did He worship pagan gods ,Like other peoples of the ancient world, the Arabs worshiped natural objects like the heavenly bodies, stones, trees and wells. The Sabians were star-worshippers, the people of Himyar worshipped the sun, the tribes of Asad and Kinana the moon. The Kaaba is thought to have been dedicated to the Great Goddess, or to a lunar deity… The three goddesses Allat, Ozza and Manat presided over the moon, the planet Venus and Sirius (the Dog Star) besides other celestial bodies. The Koran refers to Allah as Lord of ‘Sirius.’(53:50). The patron deities of many pagan tribes were associated with stones. The Arab reverence for the Black Stone was a form of litholatria or stone worship, a kind of fetishism found in all parts of the world, in which stones of strange shape, size or colour were regarded as sacred. Such stones were touched, stroked or kissed by the worshipper, who thereby acquitted some of a stone’s holiness by contagion. The Nabatean god Dhu Shara and the sun-god Elogabal of Emesa (now Homs, Syria), on the Orontes, both had the form of a black stone. I would rather trust Paul than Mohammad who gave satans words as Gods.
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During a question answer session in East London Mosque, preacher Imam Abdul Makin was asked by a niqabi muslima about recent fatwa from a well known Imam .
Naqabi Woman:“One eyed hooked Imam Hamza Mesri said muslims can kill British infidels and have sex with their wives and daughters, Do you agree with him?” Imam:“It is not what Imam Hamza said nor is there a question of my agreeing with him or not. It is in Quran thus those are Allah’s orders.”
N.W.:“But why would Allah tell muslims to kill and rape innocent non muslims?” Imam:“Because Non-muslims are never innocent, they are guilty of denying Allah and his prophet. If you don’t believe me, here is the legal authority, the top muslim lawyer of Britain, Anjem Choudhary (Video).”
N.W.“ But our Prophet was sent as a mercy for all the humanity; he never hurt any body in his life”
Imam:“Yes he never hurt a muslim in his life. But Allah said non-muslim are lowest beasts and worst creatures in ayas 8.22,8.55,95.5 and 98.6 and muslim are ordered to kill them."
N.W.:” But did prophet approve of killing them and raping their wives?”
Imam:“Yes he did. He not only approved of such acts, he and his sahabas practiced it regularly under Allah’s orders. He was helpless in it... If you don’t believe me , you have to believe sahih hadiths. I will quote you two hadiths about his typical day after a raid. These hadiths are about the raid on jewish village Khaibar whose chief was Kinana who had gorgeous 17 year old wife Safia. Prophet tortured and beheaded Kinana in front of Safia and raped her all night afterwards.
Sahih Bukhari, volume 5, Book 59, Number 512: Narrated Anas: Then the inhabitants of Khaibar came out running on the roads. The Prophet had their men killed, their offspring and woman taken as captives. Safiya was amongst the captives, She first came in the share of Dahya Alkali but later on she belonged to the Prophet (prophet took her away from him after giving Dahya two women and five men in exchange for Safia, Ref. Sahih Muslim 8:3328). Sirat e Rasulullah, Ibn Hisham, page 766 “Safiyah was captured in the Khaibar raid and was claimed by the apostle as his share of booty.. She was then seventeen. She was groomed and made-up for the Prophet by Umm Sulaim, the mother of Anas ibn Malik. They spent the night there. In the early dawn, the Prophet suspected some movement near the tent). He went out to enquire and saw Abu Ayyub.. He asked him what he was doing near his tent. He replied: "I was afraid for you with this young lady. You had killed her father, her husband and many of her relatives, and till recently she was an unbeliever. I was really afraid for you on her account and was guarding you." The Prophet prayed for Abu Ayyub al-Ansari (Ibn Hisham, p. 766)
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The description of the steamy all night action between the 62 year old Prophet and teenage Safia left the niqabi woman very depressed and the male audience very horny. Imam himself got excited and started thinking about the possibility of killing an infidel and raping his wife, who knows Allah could reward him with paradaise for following in the footsteps of his most beloved apostle..
Imam Abdul, after a lot of thinking and contemplating, figured out that killing is too risky in England. He could end up behind bars for life. Rape is desirable, less risky and more fun. His congregation muslim members could help him in this Islamic duty by providing an alibi that he was preaching in the mosque at the time of the rape (in case he was apprehended).. He talked to them about this favour.. Seven of them agreed to testify for him provided Imam will do the same for them if they got caught themselves for their rape jihad.
The Imam had been lusting for a while on a good looking kafira, who lived alone in the neighbourhood.. Late one night he entered her apartment, captured her at a knife point and brutally raped her. To complete the sunna he took her very expensive computer cell phone as halal booty (aya 8.1).
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The woman had seen this weird looking bearded pot bellied Imam walking in and out of the neighbourhood mosque. She reported him to the police and the Imam was nabbed. As promised the seven namazis testified for him and provided the alibi that Imam was preaching at the time of the rape.
But alas! DNA test contradicted their testimony. He and his seven namazi friends were all sentenced to prison terms.
Their burqa-clad wives, present in the court, couldn’t believe this miscarriage of justice. They yelled abuse at the judge for punishing their husbands for practising their religion. They asked why was an act approved by Quran and practiced by holy prophet is punishable in a country which claims freedom of religion? It was clearly a discrimination against muslims and definitely an islamophobia. Now they realized how important it is for muslims to implement sharia in England as suggested by the learned Archbishop.
But Imam Abdul had no regrets. For the first time in his life he had a white woman and in addition he gained a lot of sawab for following in the footsteps of his beloved prophet..
The real losers were the pious namazis who neither could enjoy a kafira nor could gain any sawab (virtue) but ended up in the monkey house (khaya peeya kuch nahin, glass tora, barana)..
Here is the news story from British newspaper The Sun:
Mosque, seven members lied
18 Mar 2008
A Muslim leader who claimed he was preaching at a mosque when he was really carrying out a brutal rape was jailed for ten years yesterday.
Abdul Mukin Khalisadar held a knife to his victim’s throat as he attacked her in her home.
He persuaded seven men to back up his story that he had been in the mosque at the time.
Khalisadar later admitted raping the 27-year-old.
He claimed a substance he took to help with fasting during Ramadan had made him “hyper.”
The preacher forced his way into her home as she got back from a night out, the court was told.
He threatened to kill her — even after she claimed to be pregnant with twins to put him off, prosecutor Simon Carr said.
Khalisadar also stole a mobile from the house in Whitechapel, East London.
He was caught by DNA. Judge Timothy King blasted his “hypocrisy”.
Imam got 7½ years for rape and 2½ for conspiring to pervert justice.
Seven members of East London Mosque admitted perverting justice and got 12 months each.
Burka-clad women in the public gallery yelled abuse at the judge — and one screamed that the victim was a prostitute.
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Moral of the story: Momins should only rape in Sharia country as it is risk free there. Sharia law requires four male witnesses to prove a rape.
Well. it all comes down from the head, Mohammad, and is sanctioned by many. Islam proves itself to be all about sex now and in the hearafter. What A shock when these dirty minded men wake up in hell knowing that they were duped by the biggest false prophet ever as Jesus warned and they would not hear.
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Islam has no foundation, only Mohammed's lone word. When one puts faith into only one man and that one man is really morally depleted and double minded and even HE also feared he was demon possessed, one should beware of anything that he says. Narrated Salim that his father said: I saw Allah’s Apostle arriving at Mecca; he kissed the Black Stone Corner first while doing Tawaf and did ramal in the first three rounds of the seven rounds (of Tawaf).(Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 673)
Narrated Az-Zubair bin ‘Arabi: A man asked Ibn 'Umar about the touching of the Black Stone. Ibn ‘Umar said, "I saw Allah’s Apostle touching and kissing it." The questioner said, "But if there were a throng (much rush) round the Ka'ba and the people overpowered me,(what would I do?)" He replied angrily, "Stay in Yemen (as that man was from Yemen). I saw Allah's Apostle touching and kissing it." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 680)
This sheer act of idolatry troubled some of his own companions such as Umar bin al-Khattab:
Narrated ‘Abis bin Rabia: ‘Umar came near the Black Stone and kissed it and said, "No doubt, I know that you are a stone AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT ANYONE NOR HARM ANYONE. Had I not seen Allah’s Apostle kissing you I would not have kissed you." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 667)
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said: "Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying,‘By Allah! I know that you are a stone AND CAN NEITHER BENEFIT NOR HARM. Had I not seen the Prophet touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.’ Then he kissed it and said,‘There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.’‘Umar added,‘(Nevertheless), the Prophet did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).’" (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 675)
Narrated Zaid bin Aslam that his father said:
Mohammad IS AN IDOLATERER
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deen wrote: <quoted text> Well Mr I(ndi)AN BANNER(jee) actually means God bless 'India' when he writes GBI. Its just that he doesn't know how to spell it lol. Can i ask you a question why do you keep leaving the O out of God?What is the purpose?GOD BLESS ISRAEL.
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Rabbi Cohen wrote: <quoted text> Being a hind-u indian fanatic you accused our team of being pakistani and moslem. That gave us the clue that you are an indian. We have since proved that you are an indian, through your rogue posts under "Rajesh" and "Mahesh". You must be a complete "worm" to be denying this fact. No synagogue in london has heard of what? You are lying AGAIN as usual. We KNOW that you are an indina hind-u fanatic who hates your neighbour pakistan. Unless a person is completely silly they will know that you are indian. Carry on lying...that is all you are capable of RAJESH...."Who is Allah" posts #7318 and #7319 shows clearly that you are a liar..liar and Rajesh's indian loin cloth on fire! I think India is a wonderfull place,not so sure about Pakistan though full of Islamic terrorists.God Bless Israel.
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The 2nd surah begins with a contradiction: Qur'an 2:1 "Alif-Lam-Min.(These letters are a miracle of the Qur'an and only Allah knows what they mean.) This is the Book free of doubt, a guidance to those who ward off (evil), who believe in the Unknown, fulfill their devotional obligations, and pay (zakat) out of what We have provided." There is no doubt: these uninspired rantings have guided more evil than they have warded off.
Allah's "Book" is asking people to believe in the "Unknown." Unable to produce a miracle, prophecy, or even a sane depiction of God, Muhammad just gives up and says, "believe in the unknown." We're ninety-one surahs into the Qur'an, and what little is known about this spirit is demonic. He spends his days torturing unbelievers in hell, and he spends his nights leading believers astray. He supports immorality when it serves his prophet's interests, and he doesn't want his true identity to be known.
But the dark spirit wants to be worshiped. The passage defines Muslims as those who "fulfill their devotional obligations." Although this may sound pious, it's wrong too. Devotion and obligation are incompatible, mutually exclusive concepts. Devotion - love - requires choice. The lack of choice is Islam's greatest deficiency, as the word "obligation" suggests.
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Look at this obvious contradiction in the Quran,, Had the Quran been from God, it would have none, but OOPPS!! Qur'an 4:47 "O you People of the Book to whom the Scripture has been given, believe in what We have (now) revealed, confirming and verifying what was possessed by you, before We destroy your faces beyond all recognition, turning you on your backs, and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed." Let me see if I understand this. The Jews were given the Scripture Book by Allah, and the Qur'an is new. But it confirms what it condemns. So the Islamic god is going to turn the Jews on their backs and disfigure their faces while cursing them. Forget for a moment that Allah was a rock, and a dumb one at that, and that Muhammad was a sexual pervert, bloodthirsty terrorist, and a pirate; this just isn't up to the level of scripture.
Wonder how they will explain this away as all others.
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Rabbi Cohen wrote: <quoted text> If you cannot understand why please go and find out. I know why! because you misinterpret. Show me where God commanded 'Thou shalt write My name as G-d". Show me that and I will convert to whatever religion you have.
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De Light wrote: and curse you as We cursed the Sabbath-breakers, for the decision of Allah Must be executed." so allah cursed the sabbath breakers, hope the 'rabbi' reads this
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enough42 wrote: <quoted text> all who belong to team rabbi??? Where is this team? where do they meet? Where can we see their publications? Why no jew in london has heard of you or your team? Give us a clue 'rabbi', why is this team so well hidden that nobody had heard of it? Are you a secret society? Where are you hiding Rajesh-lingham? Are you in England or india? Why don’t you talk about your REAL identity and why do you hate your pakistani neighbours? Why did you pretend to be a white european lady and got caught. Admit that you are an indian pal. Do you know a single Jewish person in your little town in india? Several posts ago you admitted you knew less about Christianity and EVEN less about our Judaism. Now you are pretending that you are an expert? Did you not also post a while ago that you did NOT like our Abrahamaic faiths? You are a pathological liar.
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enough42 wrote: <quoted text> so allah cursed the sabbath breakers, hope the 'rabbi' reads this Dear hind-u, please do not concern yourself with Shabbat or IF we ever break our "anything"! You go back to india and stop the killing of Christians by your fanatic hind-u brothers.
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Stones wrote: <quoted text> I know why! because you misinterpret. Show me where God commanded 'Thou shalt write My name as G-d". Show me that and I will convert to whatever religion you have. The Encyclopaedia Judaica says that the avoidance of pronouncing the name YHWH... was caused by a misunderstanding of the Third Commandment. The third of the Ten Commandments given by God to the Israelites states: You must not take up the name of Jehovah your God in a worthless way, for Jehovah will not leave the one unpunished who takes up his name in a worthless way.(Exodus 20:7) Hence, God's decree against the improper use of his name was wtisted in a superstition. Surely, no one today claims that God would have someone burned at the stake for pronouncing the divine name! Yet, Jewish superstitions regarding God's personal name still survive. Many continue to refer to the Tetragrammaton as the Ineffable Name. In some circles all references to God are intentionally mispronounced to avoid violating the tradition. For example,Jah, or Yah, an abbreviation for God's personal name, is pronounced Kah. Hallelujah is pronounced Hallelukah. Some even avoid writing out the term God, Substituting a dash for one or more letters. For instance, when they wish to write the English word God, They actually write G-d.
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Stones wrote: <quoted text> I know why! because you misinterpret. Show me where God commanded 'Thou shalt write My name as G-d". Show me that and I will convert to whatever religion you have. Before we show G-d, show us that the Rabbi who was crucified answered to the name "Jesus"!!! If you called him "Jesus" he would have ignored you. If you cannot work tihs logic out you should not leave your hind-u religion YET! Are you from a low caste hind-u?
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