Islam endorses wife-beating

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/003-w...

Question:
Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?


Summary Answer:
Yes, but only if she doesn't do as he asks. The beating must cease if the woman complies with her husband's demands. Beating is also intended to be the last resort, behind verbal abuse and abandonment.

Muhammad, himself, is recorded as physically striking his favorite wife (from her own testimony). It is not known how he treated his less-favored wives.


The Qur'an:
Sura (4:34)- "Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great."


From the Hadith:

Bukhari (72:715)- A woman came to Muhammad and begged her to stop her husband from beating her. Her skin was bruised so badly that she it is described as being "greener" than the green veil she was wearing. Muhammad did not admonish her husband, but instead ordered her to return to him and submit to his sexual desires.

Muslim (4:2127)- Muhammad struck his favorite wife, Aisha, in the chest one evening when she left the house without his permission. Aisha narrates, "He struck me on the chest which caused me pain."

Abu Dawud (2141)- "Iyas bin ‘Abd Allah bin Abi Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah’s handmaidens, but when ‘Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) said : Many women have gone round Muhammad’s family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you." At first, Muhammad forbade men from beating their wives, but he rescinded this once it was reported that women were becoming emboldened toward their husbands. Beatings are sometimes necessary to keep women in their place.

Abu Dawud (2142)- "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife."

Ishaq 969 - Commands that a married woman be "put in a separate room and beaten lightly" if she "act in a sexual manner toward others." According to the Hadith, this can be for an offense as petty as merely being alone with a man to whom she is not related.

Additional Notes:

Muslim apologists often squirm over this relatively straightforward Qur'an verse (4:34). Their masterful aerobics of denial inspired us to write an article:

Wife Beating- Good Enough for Muhammad, Good Enough for You

According to Islamic law, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:
- She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (ie. "let's herself go")
- She refuses to meet his sexual demands
- She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"
- She neglects her religious duties
Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.

Finally, when Muslim apologists sometimes say that Muhammad commanded that women not be harmed, they are actually basing this on what he said before or during battle, such as in Bukhari (59:447), when Muhammad orders that all the men of Quraiza be killed and the women and children be taken as slaves.(Having your husband murdered and being forced into sexual slavery apparently doesn't qualify as "harm" under the Islamic model).

But, in fact, there are a number of cases in which Muhammad did have women killed in the most brutal fashion. One was Asma bint Marwan, a mother or five, who wrote a poem criticizing the Medinans for accepting Muhammad after he had ordered the murder of an elderly man. In this case, the prophet's assassins literally pulled a sleeping infant from her breast and stabbed her to death.

After taking Mecca in 630, Muhammad also ordered the murder of a slave girl who had merely made up songs mocking him. The Hadith are rife as well with accounts of women planted in the ground on Muhammad's command and pelted to death with stones for sexual immorality.

In summary, according to both the Qur'an and Hadith, a woman may indeed have physical harm done to her if the circumstances warrant, with one such allowance being in the case of disobedience. This certainly does not mean that all Muslim men beat their wives, only that Islam allows them.

Muhammad beat Aisha.

Why I Am Not A Muslim wrote:

Additional Notes:
Muslim apologists often squirm over this relatively straightforward Qur'an verse (4:34).

Somehow your Hindu Father didn't tell you but do you know that Hinduism is the most oppressive system on record in its treatment of women. From conception to death, woman had to suffer in uncountable ways.

1.FEMALE INFANTICIDE

Female infanticide arose from the general Vedic attitude towards women. The large dowries prescribed by the Vedas (see the section of dowries below) meant that a girl was seen as a burden. The woman who gave birth to a daughter was ashamed, and much stigma attached to a lady who only gave birth to daughters. Hence infanticide arose as a convenient way of getting rid of the "burden."Aryan texts sanction this custom:

2.Wife-Burning

A Hindu-Aryan husband could at any time accuse his wife of infidelity. In case the wife protests her innocence, the council of village elders would then order an ordeal by fire. The accused wife would be required to pass through a blazing flame. Not just death, but any signs of burns would be taken as a sign of guilt and the wife would then have to undergo the penalty for infidelity.

3.Bride-Burning

This is often related to dowry, when the bride’s family cannot pay up to the amount demanded by the in-laws. Often the in-laws make demands in excess of those made at the time of marriage. When the deadline specified runs out, the bride is burned in often gruesome fashions. At least 5000 women die each year for not bringing in enough dowry. At least a dozen women die each day in `kitchen fires,’ which are often passed off as accidents, because their in-laws are not satisfied with their dowries. Only a few of the murderers are brought to justice.

PUNISHMENT OF WOMEN in Your Hindu Religion

The wife could suffer seriously cruel punishment for very minor offences.

Amputation of Ears and Noses

Aryan husbands cut off the ears and nose of their wives if they left the house without their prior permission.My God and you're talking about Muslin women.

Jesus said, "You see the sliver in your friend's eye, but you don't see the timber in your own eye. 2When you take the timber out of your own eye, then you will see well enough to remove the sliver from your friend's eye. Jesus was right You hypocrite!

True Teller wrote:

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Somehow your Hindu Father didn't tell you but do you know that Hinduism is the most oppressive system ....

This is the Islam Forum, "Kitman-Teller"; whether Hinduism is or isn't violent or oppressive has no bearing on the extensive evidence that Islam, the subject of this webpage, is violent and oppressive. Changing the subject won't change that fact and the wealth of evidence demonstrating it.

INCEST IN HINDU SOCIETY

Childhood in much of India begins with the young child being regularly masturbated by the mother, "high caste or low caste, the girl 'to make her sleep well,' the boy 'to make him manly..."' This practice has been said to be widespread by many reliable observers, including Catherine Mayo - whose extensive investigations in India in the 1920s led to the first child marriage laws(90)- a physician,(91) an ethnologist,(92) a religious scholar (93) and a sociologis.

My God What kind of people are they?

http://www.barossa-region.org/Australia/INCES...

If only Muhammad could marry all those prepubescent children and fondle them and have sex with them himself, as he did with Aisha!!!

Again, Taqiyya-Teller, your changing the subject to Hinduism, a different subject than that of this forum, in no way acquits Islam of being morally disgusting. Go talk about that on the Hinduism forum. But admit the truth about Islam, even though the truth hurts.

Why I Am Not A Muslim wrote:

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This is the Islam Forum, "Kitman-Teller"; whether Hinduism is or isn't violent or oppressive has no bearing on the extensive evidence that Islam, the subject of this webpage, is violent and oppressive. Changing the subject won't change that fact and the wealth of evidence demonstrating it.

In his autobiography, Dr. Charles, an American scholar says that it is very simple to define a Hindu. He says a Hindu means "one who believes anything and everything if said in the name of God and shall never question its authenticity.

Why I Am Not A Muslim wrote:

If only Muhammad could marry all those prepubescent children and fondle them and have sex with them himself, as he did with Aisha!!!
Again, Taqiyya-Teller, your changing the subject to Hinduism, a different subject than that of this forum, in no way acquits Islam of being morally disgusting. Go talk about that on the Hinduism forum. But admit the truth about Islam, even though the truth hurts.

Do you know Father-daughter incest occurs in the famous story of Krishna Your God had sex with his 4 years old daughter (later identified with Brahma, in turn incorporated as an incarnation of Vishnu) and his daughter [ RV III.31.1-2 ]. Moreover, this was punished. Krishna is thought to have done something wrong, and Krishna was pierced by Agni as a punishment [ Sat.Br. XIII.9 ][ Apte 63 ].

It is evident that the strict laws on male-female relations led to the repression of normal practices and the rise of various perversions like brother-sister incest, father-daughter incest eta. Even to this day incest of varying degrees (cross-cousin, father-daughter, mother-son, brother-sister, etc.) is extremely common amongst the Hindu. No other race on earth has ever recorded such a prevalence of this practice. Just as sodomy has its home in Hindu, Lesbianism in ancient Lesbos, so incest has its home amongst the Indo-Aryans.

Never mind the Hindus right now. Pedophelia, slavery, wife beating, murder, brutality, are all permited in islam. Can you show us the chapter in koran that has a recipe for building a bomb or how one can atain an aviation license??

Im glad to see "why I am not a Muslim" on these forums. I read that book and was shocked and enlightened by it. Your posts are informative and interesting

Hey, Muhammadan, I'm not Hindu. There are several aspects of Hinduism that are objectionable. As I've already said, that in no way changes the fact that Islam endorses wife-beating. Ignoring it will not make it go away.

THUNDER wrote:

Never mind the Hindus right now. Pedophelia, slavery, wife beating, murder, brutality, are all permited in islam. Can you show us the chapter in koran that has a recipe for building a bomb or how one can atain an aviation license??

I think one of you is the offspring of the concubine or the daughter who was pregnant by the father. THUNDER is definitely the son of the prostitute coz his idea say so.

Those who produce legless baby still carry the sins of the father/mother who had sex with their parents/children.

Yes, women were so limited in number in India so the people needed to multiply by immoral way or their lust was uncontrollable. Anyway, God still forgave them to allow them to continue their generation to this day. And now, we simply blame their immorality for producing people like THUNDER. If they had knew before, they would not produce any of our generation for being so ungrateful.we should be grateful/thankful to the immorality of them otherwise we won't be arguing about them here.

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Why I Am Not A Muslim wrote:

Hey, Muhammadan, I'm not Hindu. There are several aspects of Hinduism that are objectionable. As I've already said, that in no way changes the fact that Islam endorses wife-beating. Ignoring it will not make it go away.

do not feel ashamed of your Hindu religion.

who said islam allows wife beating....

it just allows u to smash her skull and break her few bones...

nothing more violent than that..

. have u ever heard a muslim behead his wife....and anything less than beheading or cutting off hands isnt violence for a islamist

hinduism is a collection of customs ,,,good and bad .. but atleast they asre shedding off their bad customs.. now its illegal in india to indulge in wife beating , slavery,child marriage etc...
whereas in islam allah loves u if u marry four times,beat ur wife,indulge in pedophilia,mindless violence agianst unbelievers,,,suicide bombing and killing of innocents,beheadings....

when was last u heard hindus ,christrians ,jews or buddhists beheaded a person just because he isnt a hindu ....ansd their whole clan supproting such act...

osama did 9/11 and palestinians and pakistani muslims were celebrating death of innocents and shouting alalh hu ackbar... and when israel crushes them they cry like cowards...
always remember
if u live by sword, u die by sword....

terrorullah wrote:

hinduism is a collection of customs ,,,good and bad .. but atleast they asre shedding off their bad customs.. now its illegal in india to indulge in wife beating , slavery,child marriage etc...

CNN World News.

Bride-burning claims hundreds in India
Practice sometimes disguised as suicide or accident
August 18, 1996
Web posted at: 11:30 a.m. EDT (1530 GMT)

NEW DELHI, India (CNN)-- In parts of India, husbands regard their wives as property that apparently can be disposed of at will. Indian police say that every year they receive more than 2,500 reports of bride-burning -- a form of domestic abuse often disguised as an accident or suicide.

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9608/18/bride.burn/