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angelina wrote:
God is our refuge and strength.
A very present help in trouble.
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I challenge you to bring even one EXPLICIT passage in your own bible that explicitly says women will enter the Kingdom of God (Heaven).
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Wednesday Jul 23
 
We Love ISLAM wrote:
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I challenge you to bring even one EXPLICIT passage in your own bible that explicitly says women will enter the Kingdom of God (Heaven).
Husbands likewise,dwell with them with understanding, giving honour to the wife as to the weaker vessel and as being HEIRS TOGETHER of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
1 Peter 3.7.

Firstly, we are heirs together, and secondly if the husband treats his wife unworthily his prayers will not be effective.
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Wednesday Jul 23
 
angelina wrote:
<quoted text>Husbands likewise,dwell with them with understanding, giving honour to the wife as to the weaker vessel and as being HEIRS TOGETHER of the grace of life, that your prayers may not be hindered.
1 Peter 3.7.
Firstly, we are heirs together, and secondly if the husband treats his wife unworthily his prayers will not be effective.
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You could Not answer my challenge because there is not even one single explicit passage in your own bible which states that WOMEN will enter the Kingdom of God !

Again and for the second time:
I challenge you to bring even one EXPLICIT passage in your own bible that explicitly says women will enter the Kingdom of God (Heaven).

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"And from among His (Allah's) Signs are the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. Do not bow down (prostrate) to the sun nor to the moon, but only bow down (prostrate) to "Allah" Who created them, if you (really) worship Him." [The Noble Quran 41:37]

"Say: He is Allah (God), the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.
(The Noble Quran 112)

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Christian women, the Bible still cares for you. It allows you to have only a husband otherwise you can go somewhere else to share a husband if you are generous enough to share.
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ISLAM is My LIFE wrote:
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You could Not answer my challenge because there is not even one single explicit passage in your own bible which states that WOMEN will enter the Kingdom of God !
Again and for the second time:
I challenge you to bring even one EXPLICIT passage in your own bible that explicitly says women will enter the Kingdom of God (Heaven).
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I have a better idea. You show me one scripture that says women wont enter the kingdom of Heaven.
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Thursday Jul 24
 
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<quoted text>I have a better idea. You show me one scripture that says women wont enter the kingdom of Heaven.
Again you could not bring any one single passage from your own bible which explicitly states that WOMEN will enter the Kigdom of God !!!

Isn't it interesting that there is No single evidence in the Bible explicitly states that christian WOMEN will enter the Kingdom of God (Heaven)!?

On contrary, the Bible clearly states that WOMEN will NEVER enter the Kingdom of God !!

"And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth." [Rv:14:3 ]

"These are the ones who have not been defiled with WOMEN, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb." [ Rv:14:4 ]

It's important here to mention that Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran explicitly said that both Muslim MEN and WOMEN will enter Paradise:

"Whosoever does an evil deed, will not be requited except the like thereof; and whosoever does a righteous deed, whether male or female and is a true believer (in the Oneness of Allah), such will enter Paradise, where they will be provided therein (with all things in abundance) without limit.”[The Noble Quran 40:40].
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Thursday Jul 24
 
A Simple Question For all Christian Women:

For the sake of argument. Now, according to your christian believe, Juses died for the forgivness of the original sin. Which means any chrisitain is saved by the sacrifice of Jesus and accordingly God forgave him/her. Okay!

In your bible, it says as a punishment for the original sin:

To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children".(Genisis 3:16)

The question is:
If Jesus had sacrificed & forgiven your sin, then "WHY CHRISTIAN WOMEN ARE STILL GETTING LABOR PAIN !?"
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Friday Jul 25
 
Why there is No single evidence in the Bible that christian WOMEN will enter the Kingdom of God (Heaven)!?

On the contrary, the Bible clearly states that WOMEN will NEVER enter the Kingdom of God !!
"And they sang a new song before the throne and before the four living creatures and the elders; and no one could learn the song except the one hundred and forty-four thousand who had been purchased from the earth." [Rv:14:3 ]
"These are the ones who have not been defiled with WOMEN, for they have kept themselves chaste. These are the ones who follow the Lamb wherever He goes. These have been purchased from among men as first fruits to God and to the Lamb." [ Rv:14:4 ]

It's important here to mention that Allah in Quran explicitly said that both Muslim MEN and WOMEN will enter Paradise:

"Whosoever does an evil deed, will not be requited except the like thereof; and whosoever does a righteous deed, whether male or female and is a true believer (in the Oneness of Allah), such will enter Paradise, where they will be provided therein (with all things in abundance) without limit.”[The Noble Quran 40:40].

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A Simple Question For all Christian Women:

For the sake of argument. Now, according to your christian believe, Juses died for the forgivness of the original sin. Which means any chrisitain is saved by the sacrifice of Jesus and accordingly God forgave him/her. Okay!

In your bible, it says as a punishment for the original sin:

To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children".(Genisis 3:16)

The question is:
If Jesus had sacrificed & forgiven your sin, then "WHY CHRISTIAN WOMEN ARE STILL GETTING LABOR PAIN !?"
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Monday Jul 28
 
In the corrupt Bible, The Biblical Jesus treated his mother in a harsh way. No single incidence in the corrupt Bible, the Biblical Jesus ever called his mother (Virgin Mary) "MOTHER" !!!!

Moreover, With respect to Luke 8:19-21 and John 2:4, no Muslim could ever believe that the true Prophet Jesus(peace be upon him) treated his mother in this way, and as such must attribute this to further examples of fabrications found in the Bible.

When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, "They have no wine." And Jesus said to her, "Woman, what does that have to do with us? My hour has not yet come." [John 2:3-4].

And His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were unable to get to Him because of the crowd. And it was reported to Him, "Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, wishing to see You." But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." [Luke 8:19-21]
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Monday Jul 28
 
How Do Muslims Treat the Elderly?

Caring for one’s parents in Islam is considered an honor and a blessing, and an opportunity for great spiritual growth.

In the Islamic world, one rarely finds “old people’s homes.” The strain of caring for one’s parents in this most difficult time of their lives is considered an honor and a blessing and an opportunity for great spiritual growth. In Islam, it is not enough that we only pray for our parents, but we should act with limitless compassion, remembering that when we were helpless children, they preferred us to themselves. Mothers are particularly honored. When Muslim parents reach old age, they are treated mercifully, with kindness and selflessness.

In Islam, serving one’s parents is a duty second to prayer, and it is their right to expect it. It is considered despicable to express any irritation when, through no fault of their own, the old become difficult.

Allah has said:

“Your Lord has commanded that you worship none but Him, and that you be kind to your parents. If one of them or both of them reach old age with you, do not say to them a word of disrespect, or scold them, but say a generous word to them. And act humbly to them in mercy, and say,‘My Lord, have mercy on them, since they cared for me when I was small.’”(The Noble Quran 17:23-24)
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Monday Jul 28
 
Prophet MUHAMMAD (peace be upon him) said:
"Paradise lies under the feet of the mother."

Prophet MUHAMMAD (peace be upon him) said:
" if a person has three daughters whom he provides for and brings up, Allah will surely reward him with paradise."

Prophet MUHAMMAD (peace be upon him) said:
"O my people! You have certain rights over your wives and so have your wives over you. They are the trust of Allah in your hands, So you must treat them with kindness." (Muslim)

Aswad said, I asked A'isha (Prophet's wife), "What did the Prophet (peace be upon him) do when in his house? She said, he served his wife, meaning that he did work for his wife.(Bukhari)

The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect of the believers in faith is the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest of you to their wives.”
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Monday Jul 28
 
Allah Almighty has said in the Noble Quran:

“Your Lord has commanded that you worship none but Him, and that you be kind to your parents. If one of them or both of them reach old age with you, do not say to them a word of disrespect, or scold them, but say a generous word to them. And act humbly to them in mercy, and say,‘My Lord, have mercy on them, since they cared for me when I was small.’”
[The Noble Quran 17:23-24]

"And among Allah's (God's) signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect."
[The Noble Quran, 30:21]

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
"Paradise lies under the feet of the mother."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
" if a person has three daughters whom he provides for and brings up, Allah will surely reward him with paradise."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
"O my people! You have certain rights over your wives and so have your wives over you. They are the trust of Allah in your hands, So you must treat them with kindness." (Muslim)

Aswad said, I asked A'isha (Prophet's wife), "What did the Prophet (peace be upon him) do when in his house? She said, he served his wife, meaning that he did work for his wife.(Bukhari)

The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect of the believers in faith is the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest of you to their wives.”

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With respect to Luke 8:19-21 and John 2:4, no Muslim could ever believe that Prophet Jesus(as) treated his mother in this way, and as such must attribute this to further examples of fabrications found in the Bible.

When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, "They have no wine." And Jesus said to her, "Woman, what does that have to do with us? My hour has not yet come." [John 2:3-4].

And His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were unable to get to Him because of the crowd. And it was reported to Him, "Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, wishing to see You." But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." [Luke 8:19-21]
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Monday Jul 28
 
Allah Almighty has said in the Noble Quran:

“Your Lord has commanded that you worship none but Him, and that you be kind to your parents. If one of them or both of them reach old age with you, do not say to them a word of disrespect, or scold them, but say a generous word to them. And act humbly to them in mercy, and say,‘My Lord, have mercy on them, since they cared for me when I was small.’”
[The Noble Quran 17:23-24]

"And among Allah's (God's) signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect."
[The Noble Quran, 30:21]

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
"Paradise lies under the feet of the mother."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
" if a person has three daughters whom he provides for and brings up, Allah will surely reward him with paradise."

Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said:
"O my people! You have certain rights over your wives and so have your wives over you. They are the trust of Allah in your hands, So you must treat them with kindness." (Muslim)

Aswad said, I asked A'isha (Prophet's wife), "What did the Prophet (peace be upon him) do when in his house? She said, he served his wife, meaning that he did work for his wife.(Bukhari)

The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "The most perfect of the believers in faith is the best of them in moral excellence, and the best of you are the kindest of you to their wives.”

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With respect to Luke 8:19-21 and John 2:4, no Muslim could ever believe that Prophet Jesus(as) treated his mother in this way, and as such must attribute this to further examples of fabrications found in the Bible.

When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, "They have no wine." And Jesus said to her, "Woman, what does that have to do with us? My hour has not yet come." [John 2:3-4].

And His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were unable to get to Him because of the crowd. And it was reported to Him, "Your mother and Your brothers are standing outside, wishing to see You." But He answered and said to them, "My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it." [Luke 8:19-21]
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Monday Jul 28
 
EXPOSING THE CHRISTIAN LIES

Most of christians in this forum such as the one called (Jesus Is) will use naive evil lies against the Geat ISLAM in order to justify her/his desperate hopeless defense of her corrupt christianity/bible. By doing so, this christian exposes his/her hypocrite faith and proves to all of us that he does not really trust the teachings of the true Jesus (peace be upon him).

Now, we are going to expose some of those evil christian lies posted here and anyone can check the verses from the following authentic Islamic websites:

Translations of the Quran http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/

Commentary and Explanation of the Quran (Tafsir) http://www.tafsir.com/

Commentary and Explanation of the Quran (Tafsir) http://www.theholybook.org/index.php/content/...

WOMEN IN ISLAM

There is a great deal of good in some women:
"O ye who believe! Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good.(The Noble Quran, 4:19)"

Men and women were created for each others, in order to live in peace, harmony and love with each others as husbands and wives: "And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect.(The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

Men can not harm their wives: "...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.(The Noble Quran, 4:128)"

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.(Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"

"He who is involved in bringing up daughters, and accords benevolent treatment towards them, they will be protection for him against Hell-Fire." (Prophet Mohammed peace be upon him)

Men can't have sex with their women during Menses, but they can sleep with them and touch them: "They ask thee concerning women's courses. Say: They are a hurt and a pollution: So keep away from women in their courses, and do not approach them until they are clean. But when they have purified themselves, ye may approach them in any manner, time, or place ordained for you by God. For God loves those who turn to Him constantly and He loves those who keep themselves pure and clean.(The Noble Quran, 2:222)"

Maimuna (the wife of the Holy Prophet) reported: "The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) contacted and embraced his wives over the waist-wrapper when they were menstruating.(Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0579)"

Women have equal rights for them and against them: "..and for women are rights equal to the rights against them but men have a degree over them (in the context of divorce) in what is just.(The Noble Quran, 2:228)"
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Monday Jul 28
 
WOMEN IN ISLAM -Part 2

The birth of a female is not a biggest tragedy and the end of the world as it is in the Bible: "When news is brought to one of them, of (the birth of) a female (child), his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief! With shame does he hide himself from his people, Because of the bad news He has had! Shall he retain it On (sufferance and) contempt, Or bury it in the dust? Ah! what an evil (choice) They decide on?(The Noble Quran, 16:58-59)" So considering the birth of females as a bad thing is evil by itself in the Noble Quran.

Also, the Prophet peace be upon him said: Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone cares for three daughters, disciplines them, marries them, and does good to them, he will go to Paradise.(Translation of Sunan abu Dawud, Book 41, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Number 5128)"

Women have the right for the highest education, unlike what some Muslim fanatics claim: Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: "The Prophet said,'He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward.'(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Manumission of Slaves, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 723)"

"...Those truly fear God, among His Servants, who have knowledge: for God is Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving.(The Noble Quran, 35:28)"

Unsecured men do not represent Islam. I don't have to oppress my wife and keep her down in order for me to keep our marriage. No, I instead use Noble Verse 30:21 when dealing with my wife: "And among God's signs is this: He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them. And he has put love and kindness among you. Herein surely are signs for those who reflect.(The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "The best believers are the best in conduct, and the best of you are those who are best to their wives."
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Monday Jul 28
 
How do the Bible views Women?

Now, let's again see how the christianity and the Bible view women:

In the Bible:

The bible considers women as dirt that defiles men
[Revelation 14:4] "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure. They follow the Lamb wherever he goes. They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

"...if a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days...but if she bear a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks..." (Bible : Leviticus 12:2-5)

Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as the bible put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses. Anything they touch becomes unclean:
[Leviticus 15:19-30] "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses),[and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean.

Birth of any female is a loss:
[Ecclesiasticus 22:3] "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible. It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls:
[Exodus 21:7-8] "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out. If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."

Daughters inherit nothing when there are sons:
"If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter.(Numbers 27:8)" So the American law of splitting everything equally is not Biblical.

in Christianity:
Woman is a daughter of falsehood,.(Saint John Damascene)

in Christianity:
Woman is a sentinel of Hell,.(Saint John Damascene)

in Christianity:
Woman is the enemy of peace; through her Adam lost paradise.(Saint John Damascene)

in Christianity:
Women is the fountain of the arm of the Devil, her voice is the hissing of the serpent (St. Anthony)

in Christianity:
Women has the poison of an asp, the malice of a dragon(St. Gregory)

“And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death”...(Bible..lev 20:10)

[Ezekiel 23:45-48]:
"But they, righteous men, will judge them with the judgment of adulteresses and with the judgment of women who shed blood, because they are adulteresses and blood is on their hands.
23:46 "For thus says the Lord GOD,'Bring up a company against them and give them over to terror and plunder.
23:47 'The company will stone them with stones and cut them down with their swords; they will slay their sons and their daughters and burn their houses with fire.
23:48 'Thus I will make lewdness cease from the land, that all women may be admonished and not commit lewdness as you have done."
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Monday Jul 28
 
Christian Women !..WAKE UP!!

MARRIAGE BY FORCE !!

If brothers dwell together, and one of them dies and has no son, the wife of the dead shall not be married outside of the family to a stranger; her husband’s brother shall go into her, and take her as his wife.[Deuteronomy 25:5]

WHAT IF HE REFUSES?

And if the man does not wish to take his brother's wife then his brother's wife shall go up to the gate of the elders, and say, "My husband's brother refuses to perpetuate his brother's name in Israel. Then the elders of his city shall call him.
And if he persists then his brother's wife shall go up to him in the presence of the elders, and pull his sandal off his foot, and spit in his face; and shall answer and say:“So it shall be done to the man who does not build up his brother's house.” And the name of his house shall be called in Israel the house of him that had his sandal pulled off.[Deuteronomy 25:7]
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Why don't you people just pray to whatever god you believe in and stop antagonizing each other? Seriously, if you all think you're saved then don't worry about what the person who is "wrong" thinks. No wonder why people are turned off by religion these days, all the arguing and fighting and screaming. Wars, bloodshed... It's crazy.
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Tuesday Jul 29
 
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A Simple Question For all Christian Women:
For the sake of argument. Now, according to your christian believe, Juses died for the forgivness of the original sin. Which means any chrisitain is saved by the sacrifice of Jesus and accordingly God forgave him/her. Okay!
In your bible, it says as a punishment for the original sin:
To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children".(Genisis 3:16)
The question is:
If Jesus had sacrificed & forgiven your sin, then "WHY CHRISTIAN WOMEN ARE STILL GETTING LABOR PAIN !?"
Is childbirth painless for Islamic women?
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