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Oct 19, 2009 | Posted by: SongBookz

Nobel winner slams Bible as 'handbook of bad morals'

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A row broke out in Portugal on Monday after a Nobel Prize-winning author denounced the Bible as a "handbook of bad morals". Speaking at the launch of his new book "Cain", Jose Saramago, who won the 1998 Nobel Prize for Literature, said society would probably be better off without the Bible.

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“No Jesus: know peace”

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I hope his books are available in English. I think I could like this author...

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"Saramago does not know the Bible".

"He has only superficial understanding of it".

Standard boilerplate responses.
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"The Bible is a manual of bad morals (which) has a powerful influence on our culture and even our way of life. Without the Bible, we would be different, and probably better people," ...

Amen.
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Liam R wrote:
I hope his books are available in English. I think I could like this author...
yes they are...

http://www.amazon.com/Gospel-According-Jesus-...
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The Bible teaches that those who continue to rebel against the LORD will be cast into a Lake of Fire.

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Michael Ejercito wrote:
The Bible teaches that those who continue to rebel against the LORD will be cast into a Lake of Fire.
The bible also teaches an earth mounted on pillars, a solid sky dome, a talking snake and a talking donkey...not to mention incest, genocide and patricide patricide. It also teaches against wearing mixed fabrics, sowing different crops in the same field and keeping different types of cattle in the same field. In other words it teaches nonsense.
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lot and his duaghters. nuff said.
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"If there were no God, there would be no athiests." - G.K. Chesterton
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Tom wrote:
"If there were no God, there would be no athiests." - G.K. Chesterton
G.K. Chesterton wasn't too bright I guess. Here, let's fix his moron talk so it makes some sense.

If there were no people that assert god exists without any evidence whatsoever to suggest that he/she/it does, and if none of those credulous kooks tried to impose their wacko beliefs on the rest of society, there would be no atheists.
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Tom wrote:
"If there were no God, there would be no athiests." - G.K. Chesterton
actually if there were no believers, there would be no need for atheists. its always the believers we resist.

if your god would just make a showing, we could get past the nonsense of believers...

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It is a wicked and evil generation that needs proof that God exist. The fact is that most of the worlds problems are caused by people that have no morals or a sense of right and wrong.
The bible has nothing to do with morality. There were humans on the planet for thousands of years prior to Christianity. They had laws and did not kill each other off. The reason they were able to do this is because morality has it's roots in evolution.

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The bible has nothing to do with morality. There were humans on the planet for thousands of years prior to Christianity. They had laws and did not kill each other off. The reason they were able to do this is because morality has it's roots in evolution.
they had laws and did not kill each other off? what planet are you speaking of? and by the way, is "patricide patricide" anything like "genocide genocide"?

the God of abraham shows himself every day to those with eyes to see and ears to hear...

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they had laws and did not kill each other off? what planet are you speaking of? and by the way, is "patricide patricide" anything like "genocide genocide"?
The Code of Hammurbari.

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/MESO/CODE.HTM

Then there is the small matter of medicine, mathematics, logic, running water, underfloor heating, flush toilets, science, building skills etc. All without the help of the 'morality' of the bible.

As for my typo, so what? IMHO your picking on this is somewhat childish.
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the God of abraham shows himself every day to those with eyes to see and ears to hear...
Please provide a coherant, real world testable, falsifiable, universally agreed definition for 'God'.

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Hey folks, first - the books are works of fiction. Second, the author is free to think whatever he wants about the bible, right? Or are the fundies pushing for thought-crime, too, now?
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Nobel winner slams Bible as 'handbook of bad morals'

Joseph Stalin felt the same way....
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Some Dude wrote:
Nobel winner slams Bible as 'handbook of bad morals'
Joseph Stalin felt the same way....
OOOooo...the stalin attack...scary...

silliness. nothing but silliness. shall we start the hitler wasnt a xtian discussion...?
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It is a wicked and evil generation that needs proof that God exist. The fact is that most of the worlds problems are caused by people that have no morals or a sense of right and wrong.
more silliness. are you telling us that asking for proof is a new invention? do you realize (probably not) there were atheists way older than when the J-man was alleged to have lived?? 6th cent BCE we see the first rejections of myth based explanations of the world.

guessing that youre a believer, didnt you have your proof criteria met? didnt other bleivers youknow have their criteria met too? wont many others claim the same ???

not my problem if your criteria is so shallow, and some of us demand more'n the bible, or the claims of those like you. If mine are met, as yours/others were met, I'll join that gods army. till than Im going to live a moral life without the silliness of your book. and certainly without the bible based rules of a mixed up bunch like xtians.
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FRED wrote:
It is a wicked and evil generation that needs proof that God exist. The fact is that most of the worlds problems are caused by people that have no morals or a sense of right and wrong.
yeah that invasion of Iraq, an xtian crusade according to baby bush has worked out real well...

yeah the murder of most natives peoples around the world for the glory of the xtian god was a real progressive step...

yup, xtian morality - a constant moving target...just hope your not in their sights when they start shooting...
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Light Sensitive: I'll say you have some very wise arguements! You have them down on the floor! But how do I know what morals are in a non judeo-christian world?
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more silliness. are you telling us that asking for proof is a new invention? do you realize (probably not) there were atheists way older than when the J-man was alleged to have lived?? 6th cent BCE we see the first rejections of myth based explanations of the world.
guessing that youre a believer, didnt you have your proof criteria met? didnt other bleivers youknow have their criteria met too? wont many others claim the same ???
not my problem if your criteria is so shallow, and some of us demand more'n the bible, or the claims of those like you. If mine are met, as yours/others were met, I'll join that gods army. till than Im going to live a moral life without the silliness of your book. and certainly without the bible based rules of a mixed up bunch like xtians.

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Tom wrote:
"If there were no God, there would be no athiests." - G.K. Chesterton
We all begin as atheist, then the more unfortunate are converted.

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