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Wayfollower wrote:

Yesu. You were on my thread about Jesus. You never said anything more after I answered your question about how to be saved. Are you saved? What does your nickname mean?
That video you provided on abortion above is heart-wrenching. I think it should be mandatory for anyone considering abortion to have to watch videos such as that first!!

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Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:

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Hi Wayfollower,
Yes, I am saved. Sorry if I led you on. That was not my intention. 1 John 4:1-3 says:
"...do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world."
That is why I asked who Jesus is. Is He God incarnate etc? I was simply testing the spirits. I was satisfied that you were a fellow worker and I moved on. I get really busy and it's hard to find time to get online.
I am a former missionary/evangelist/pastor. Some of my work was in Africa amongst other places. The phrase "Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu" is Swahili and translated it means "Jesus Christ is my Saviour"
Yes, the video is heart wrenching. All should see the reality of this video. But it appears no one was interested in the video or the discussion. God bless you and your ministry.
Your brother in Christ.

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Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:

Evika is the Hebrew name for LIFE! I believe that all babies have the right to live.
If you're "pro-choice," this short video may change your mind:
http://www.abortionno.org/

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PROV1X81 wrote:

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abortion is a terrible ugly thing to do and all arrows point to it being wrong,but... its not up to you or me to tell a woman what they can and cant do with there bodies whether you like it or not,you need to move to the middle east if you want government to have that kind of control.if males were the ones that had children this would be a non issue by the way.look at it this way if you believe life is all about going to heaven or hell in the end then aborted babies go to heaven no questions asked.

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PROV1X81 wrote:

abortion is a terrible ugly thing to do and all arrows point to it being wrong,...

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but... its not up to you or me to tell a woman what they can and cant do with there bodies.

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whether you like it or not,you need to move to the middle east if you want government to have that kind of control..

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if males were the ones that had children this would be a non issue by the way.look at it this way if you believe life is all about going to heaven or hell in the end then aborted babies go to heaven no questions asked.

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Wayfollower wrote:

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I was just glad to see that you didn't use my info. to try to slam me like the atheists and such on here do.
I put the video on my facebook page; it saw little response also!
God bless!

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Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:

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I'm certainly not going to slam you "like the atheists and such on here do". Been there many many times lol. I'm glad to hear you posted the video on facebook. I also gave a link above to an abortion counter. You might find it interesting useful.
Keep up the "good works".
"For we are God’s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do." (Eph 2:10)

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Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:

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Yes, you are right, abortion it is wrong! The slaughter of unborn children and the violence against these children is as you say,“a terrible ugly thing to do.” And as you also said,“all arrows point to it being wrong.” Did you watch the video PROV1X81? I hope you did. Because if you did, you saw the awful reality of abortion; the bloody, violent ugly reality of it all. When abortion is hidden, abortion is tolerated. Did you watch in horror as I did when the arms and hands were being torn away? So sad. Did you watch the video PROV1X81? When abortion is seen, everything changes. Did you see the mutilated body sliding from the womb? It was still connected to the umbilical chord. I warn you PROV, the video is very graphic. But it’s real. Infanticide is real. And it’s wrong! It needs to be seen not hidden. Please help stop the killing.
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I’m not telling a woman what to do with her body. I’m asking her to please consider the innocent life that lives inside of her. I’m asking her to consider the alternatives. There are alternatives that may be much safer and healthier, both physically and emotionally.
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C’mon now, you can’t be serious. If murdering unborn children is wrong, then it’s wrong. I don’t see your correlation with the government’s control.
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I do not think life is all “about going to heaven or hell in the end.” Although choosing our final destination is the most important decision we will ever make. Life is about what you do with your life; that is your purpose in life. Life to me is all about living a purpose-driven life. Two great moments in our lives are when we are born and when we discover why we were born. We were created for a reason—a divine purpose. Our lives are not accidents or fate. God has a personal plan for each of us. And that is what I believe life is all about. For a mother to choose rather a child lives or dies before discovering his or her purpose in life is giving way to much control to the mother. It is wrong for any woman to have the authority to decide rather her child lives or dies.

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PROV1X81 wrote:

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"C’mon now, you can’t be serious. If murdering unborn children is wrong, then it’s wrong. I don’t see your correlation with the government’s control."
do you think abortion should be illegal?
and yes I watched the video.

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Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:

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I get it. And yes, of course I think abortion should be illegal. But more than that education is needed. Young pregnant girls need to know the alternatives to abortion. One is to keep the baby. Or consider asking the father or his family. Another alternative is adoption. And most states in the U.S. have baby safe haven laws, allowing a mother to turn over their babies unharmed to a local receiving organization without the threat of prosecution. Normally, the receiving agency is a hospital emergency room, responsible adult, manned fire department, or police station. My point is there are many alternatives other than killing the baby.
You have a peace sign. How can someone who promotes peace condone such a violent act against children? I taught my children that there are consequences for their actions. Good acts produce good rewards. Bad acts produce bad consequences. The consequence for having sex is pregnancy. There are consequences for everything we do. So we have to “man up” and do the responsible thing. There is no easy way out. There’s also the consequence of having an abortion. The mother must live with what she has done for the rest of her life. It’s a life-long sentence.
On one hand if she gives the baby up for adoption, she can always dream about what the child is doing, what he or she looks like now, etc. But if she aborts the child, the child no longer exists. There is no dreaming, only guilt.
Think about these things for awhile.

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PROV1X81 wrote:

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"You have a peace sign. How can someone who promotes peace condone such a violent act against children?"
I agree with you abortion is not a peaceful thing to do and I dont condone it,but again I dont want the gov. making females stay pregnant if they dont want to.

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Yesu Kristo Mwokozi wangu wrote:

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You seem only concerned with what the woman thinks she wants and not the least bit concerned with the life of the baby that lives inside of her. You also don't seemed to be concerned about how the woman will feel after she has killed her baby.
Consider this, no civilized society permits one human to intentionally harm or take the life of another human without punishment, and abortion is no different.
Also consider these arguments:
Adoption is a viable alternative to abortion and accomplishes the same result. And with 1.5 million American families wanting to adopt a child, there is no such thing as an unwanted child.
An abortion can result in medical complications later in life; the risk of ectopic pregnancies doubles, and the chance of a miscarriage and pelvic inflammatory disease also increases.
Abortion should not be used as another form of contraception.
For women who demand complete control of their body, control should include preventing the risk of unwanted pregnancy through the responsible use of contraception or, if that is not possible, through abstinence.
Many Americans who pay taxes are opposed to abortion, therefore it's morally wrong to use tax dollars to fund abortion.
Those who choose abortions are often minors or young women with insufficient life experience to understand fully what they are doing. Many have lifelong regrets afterwards.
Abortion frequently causes intense psychological pain and stress.
Thank you for watching the video and taking time to respond. I hope at least you will think about these things and perhaps look at abortion a little differently. God bless you PROV1X81.

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PROV1X81 wrote:

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are you aware I'm a married male in my late 40's thats had a vasectomy and has 2 daughters in there early 20's and not a 16 yr old female thats pregnant?