Who Is Allah?

Aug 24, 2007 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Brussels Journal

“Allah is a very beautiful word for God. Shouldn't we all say that from now on we will name God Allah? [...] What does God care what we call him?”

From the desk of Soeren Kern on Fri, 2007-08-24 11:56 Europeans love to mock the salience of religion in American society. via The Brussels Journal

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/opinion/app...
Appalachia Turns on Itself
Appalachia is engaged in a civil war of sorts over coal, with miners and their families pitted against environmental activists...
I want a stun gun for Christmas.

Funny thing, all electric cars, the ones that environmental activists surely drive, run mostly on coal generated electricity.

Of course, the nation could always build more nuclear power plants.

"The central issue is mountaintop removal, a radical form of strip mining that has left over 2,000 miles of streams buried and over 500 mountains destroyed." Wow. Destroyed.

I wonder if, like the star registry, a person can have a destroyed mountain named after him or herself?
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I want a stun gun for Christmas.
Funny thing, all electric cars, the ones that environmental activists surely drive, run mostly on coal generated electricity.
Of course, the nation could always build more nuclear power plants.
"The central issue is mountaintop removal, a radical form of strip mining that has left over 2,000 miles of streams buried and over 500 mountains destroyed." Wow. Destroyed.
I wonder if, like the star registry, a person can have a destroyed mountain named after him or herself?
The question about electric cars revolves around efficiency. Is there more power per unit of coal than per equal unit of petro? Also, which is more climatically impactful during combustion? And which is more environmentally destructive during the extraction? I dont know the answers to these - but it is more complicated than just trading one for the other.

The future is with lithium, but the supply comes mainly from a a single salt playa in Argentina that is instrumental to breeding birds. GO figure.

What gets me about that article is the notion that this is "new" news. Corporate robber barons turn local populace on itself. What will they think of next?
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The question about electric cars revolves around efficiency. Is there more power per unit of coal than per equal unit of petro? Also, which is more climatically impactful during combustion? And which is more environmentally destructive during the extraction? I dont know the answers to these - but it is more complicated than just trading one for the other.
The future is with lithium, but the supply comes mainly from a a single salt playa in Argentina that is instrumental to breeding birds. GO figure.
What gets me about that article is the notion that this is "new" news. Corporate robber barons turn local populace on itself. What will they think of next?
I thought that the immediate future is with hydrogen fuel cells, at least for powering buildings and such.
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NQ wrote:
01. I realize that I am not comfortable following your rules.

02. I prefer to discuss the lives of the prophets first; qualities later. As I explained to you, unless the object is seen it cannot be accurately described.

03. That is all right what you think. You are free to think and form things as you see fit. We are all different, and consider or analyze things in different ways. I was not condemning you, but I cannot take qualities first and then fit it to a person. I take persons first and then list their qualities. So I did not understand the terms of the comparative lists you wanted to make. Now that I understand the "rules" you want to play by, I am retracting my hand unless you allow me to discuss prophets as I understand them.

04. I believe in God, and Judgment Day. I do not believe in the type of hell and heavens you are evidently speaking of. In fact I doubt I believe in the same God and/or Judgment Day you are speaking of.

05. Although they can be a time-waster when my connection is slow, they are actually quite informative and I thank you for the conversation. P.S. I am trying to answer you accurately as best I know.
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In light of your post, I think it would be more profitable, if we discuss about God, because the concept of Prophet hood is linked with God.

So let us see what is your concept of God and then we will move to the judgment day and concept of heaven and hell.

Once we have discussed these topics, may be the discussion about prophets would be more fruitful.

I am unable to understand, why are you allergic to first list out Qualities of the Prophets first and then verify which of the so called prophets fulfill those conditions.

In your approach you “pre-suppose” that such and such is a prophet of God and then list his qualities. May be those qualities are not found in the prophets you mentioned earlier, so there would be a sort of contradiction.

Any way let us discuss about your concept of God, so there is no duplication of personality, we would be discussing about the same personality.
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In light of your post, I think it would be more profitable, if we discuss about God, because the concept of Prophet hood is linked with God.
So let us see what is your concept of God and then we will move to the judgment day and concept of heaven and hell.
Once we have discussed these topics, may be the discussion about prophets would be more fruitful.
I am unable to understand, why are you allergic to first list out Qualities of the Prophets first and then verify which of the so called prophets fulfill those conditions.
In your approach you “pre-suppose” that such and such is a prophet of God and then list his qualities. May be those qualities are not found in the prophets you mentioned earlier, so there would be a sort of contradiction.
Any way let us discuss about your concept of God, so there is no duplication of personality, we would be discussing about the same personality.
A prophet tells the truth. Did Mohammad tell the truth? According to the record, no.

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In light of your post, I think it would be more profitable, if we discuss about God, because the concept of Prophet hood is linked with God.
Do you believe there are those that claim to come from God but may not really be speaking for him?

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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/09/opinion/app...
Appalachia Turns on Itself
Appalachia is engaged in a civil war of sorts over coal, with miners and their families pitted against environmental activists...
having lived in those parts for some time while people claim to love the hills, they will trade jobs over beauty and environment as most will do any part of the world. The streams are often polluted with industrial waste as well. But the need jobs.
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Who says Joel isnt speaking Chinese most of the time here?
aaahhhhhh! good point, Frijoles. funny how i did not think, i knew chinese that well.

oh my G-D! Frijoles, what language am i writting in?
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<quoted text> having lived in those parts for some time while people claim to love the hills, they will trade jobs over beauty and environment as most will do any part of the world. The streams are often polluted with industrial waste as well. But the need jobs.
rabbee: oh let me guess, their leader is robert e lignite.
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Who says Joel isnt speaking Chinese most of the time here?
you know Frijoles, i have come to the conclusion. that weird would be, a world that speaks the same way i do about G-D normaly. weird would be, somebody who understands me here and now in TheTorah. i hate to hav't to admit it, but i may need to go to looney town, to find out who framed the silly wabbee.
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Do you believe there are those that claim to come from God but may not really be speaking for him?
Let us first discuss about the God you seem to believe in. What is your concept about God? We can discuss other things afterwards.

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<quoted text> having lived in those parts for some time while people claim to love the hills, they will trade jobs over beauty and environment as most will do any part of the world. The streams are often polluted with industrial waste as well. But the need jobs.
I will have millions of great union wage jobs restoring the environment and cleaning up and preventing pollution as well as reducing and properly disposing of hazzardous waste. My system has nothing to do with profiteering which has always been mankinds problem.
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I will have millions of great union wage jobs restoring the environment and cleaning up and preventing pollution as well as reducing and properly disposing of hazzardous waste. My system has nothing to do with profiteering which has always been mankinds problem.
The Unions are what is shutting down work places.
Obama robbed the non-union worker to keep the union workers working.
You got a problem Jake999.

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The Unions are what is shutting down work places.
Obama robbed the non-union worker to keep the union workers working.
You got a problem Jake999.
I am talking about one union that covers all jobs globally and zero non union jobs. I dont see a problem I had 4 of the major US unions work for me for decades with minimal problems.
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I am talking about one union that covers all jobs globally and zero non union jobs. I dont see a problem I had 4 of the major US unions work for me for decades with minimal problems.
That's corruption and a form of slavery.
That is what Obama is trying to do now, and there is no recovery.
Things are getting worst.
All across America there are ghost sites of closed down factory's.
People can't buy products with food stamps, and more and more people are applying for welfare in America.
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The kind of Indians rushing off to live in the US are those who primarily belong to the unrefined middle classes who're dazzled by the pseudo-sophistication and the averagely high wages on offer in the US. To lift themselves out of the rut they make use of their academic qualifications, network of US-Indians who could be friends or relatives and emigrate as quickly as possible and they soon perpetuate and consolidate their unclassy middle CLASS status in the US.
What is high class considered in India?

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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: oh! really, really now. hell you can't even understand me now, more or less what even simpler i said about 2000 years ago. to study any corrupt version, is to become the corruption of that version.
everything i taught, 2000 years ago was in TheTorah then. and everything i teach again today, is here in TheTorah today. and i don't need no bible for that, then or now. when none of you, can even comprehend still being here in TheTorah today. because you have been seduced to believe, G-D stopped giving TheTorah 3000 years ago. and that just crossing a river, eliminates you all from being here in TheTorah today.
Rabbee, I think you and Christ Jake should sit down and talk it out. Brother Jake has his own yacht.

There was no messiah in TheTorah. So, we can fit both of you in TheTopix.
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
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i thought my write-ups were clear enough.
What do you know about high class, high culture and high spiritualism? Nothing, nothing at all.
Stick to your Judeo-Christian culture which is based on demon-worship, adulation of possessed prophets, baby bashing, incest, inbreeding, hypogamy, stoning disobedient sons to death, nudism, porn, orgies, genocide, animal slaughter, human sacrifices, military conquest and nuking of nations, deceit, imperialism, fanaticism, bio-psychic perversions, alcoholism, gay marriages, divorce, promiscuity, evangelism and religious conversion and more.
Your high class alright Joe.
A moron.
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
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The kind of Indians rushing off to live in the US are those who primarily belong to the unrefined middle classes who're dazzled by the pseudo-sophistication and the averagely high wages on offer in the US. To lift themselves out of the rut they make use of their academic qualifications, network of US-Indians who could be friends or relatives and emigrate as quickly as possible and they soon perpetuate and consolidate their unclassy middle CLASS status in the US.
Prime example of how Joel's dementia works.

First he laments the position of India's poor and middle class:
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The middle classes and the poor are being crushed under rising inflation and static or shrinking salaries. Sad.
Note the word "Sad".

Then when we point out that there exists press of immigration to the US from India and some point out the strain on our country, suddenly Joel now has disdain for the middle class forgetting his prior empathy for their plight.
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
THE INDIAN ELITE:
There are 3 elite categories of Indians, who, despite having the chance of settling down in the US or in Europe, prefer living in India.
These 3 categories of Indians who refuse the superfluous and perverse lifestyle that America has to offer are:
1) The seriously wealthy
2) The highly cultured
3) The deeply spiritual.
Another sign of Joel's dementia--redundancy.

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