Indonesia: Ministry Orders Removal of Buddha Statue

sampuna wrote:

people who protest,they are more worldly than religiously Buddhist.

The Buddha didn't call for any symbols to represent him. If it wasn't there at the first place,none of these nonsense would have happened.

the Buddhists of 'little faith' get hurt when they see their symbol of 'great attachment' to the Buddha gets pulled down.

the Moslems of 'great faith' got hurt when they see a giant idol in the midst of a moslem majority city.

Buddhists should, as examplified by the Buddha in many Jatakas, sacrifice their pride for the sake of others' peace of mind.

grace wrote:

don't forget religion first in Indonesia is Budha.

sampuna wrote:

people who protest,they are more worldly than religiously Buddhist.
The Buddha didn't call for any symbols to represent him. If it wasn't there at the first place,none of these nonsense would have happened.
the Buddhists of 'little faith' get hurt when they see their symbol of 'great attachment' to the Buddha gets pulled down.
the Moslems of 'great faith' got hurt when they see a giant idol in the midst of a moslem majority city.
Buddhists should, as examplified by the Buddha in many Jatakas, sacrifice their pride for the sake of others' peace of mind.

Ricardo da Silva wrote:

<quoted text>Removal of Buddha Statue
I agree with Sampuna's view. Think about Buddha's toleration.
When Buddha was alive, what kind of action He responded if someone assaulted Buddha?

How did the Buddha respond when He was being criticized and challenged?

Once when the Buddha was staying at Rajagaha, the Brahman Akkosa Bharadvaja abused and criticized him in foul and harsh words. Thus reviled, the Buddha asked: "Well, Brahman, do friends, confidants, relatives, kinsmen and guests visit you?"

"Yes, Gautama, sometimes friends, confidants, relatives, kinsmen and guests do visit me." "Well, Brahman, do you not offer them snacks or food or titbits?"

"Yes, Gautama, sometimes I do offer them snacks or food or titbits."

"But if, Brahman, they do not accept it, who gets it?"

"If Gotama, they do not accept it, I get it back."

"Even so, Brahman, you are abusing us who do not abuse, you are angry with us who do not get angry, you are quarreling with us who do not quarrel. All this of yours we don't accept. You alone, Brahman, get it back; all this, Brahman, belongs to you."

On another occasion at Kapilavatthu, the Buddha was questioned by Dandapani the Sakyan about his teachings. Unimpressed by the Buddha's answer, Dandapani shook his head and wagging his tongue departed. Reacting calmly to this, the Buddha addressed the gathering: "If anyone should criticise me, the Dhamma or the Sangha, you should not on that account be angry, resentful or upset. For if you were, that would hinder you, and you would be unable to know whether they said right or wrong, would you? So, if others criticise me, the Dhamma or the Sangha, then simply explain what is incorrect."

Following the Buddha's example, we should not become angry or engaged in mud-slinging when the Dhamma is criticized. Rather we should act with restrain and respond rationally and intelligently, and rectify any false representations of the Buddha's teachings. This duty to protect the Dhamma is entrusted by the Buddha to all his followers. It is not enough just to chant and conduct rituals; it is imperative that we study the Dhamma, live by the Dhamma, and are able to protect the Dhamma.

Once, Burmese BBC broadcast section asked a Burmese Buddhist monk lived in England about Taliban destroying Buddha Statues. The monk requested Buddhists to patience.

We must feel indifference on any such things like removal or destroying of Buddha Statue.
Such issue is not joyful situation. But Buddhists shouldn't get angry in order to follow Buddha's examples.

sampuna wrote:

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bro, mohon baca komentar sampuna dulu yach.biar sampuna alih bahasa ke Bahasa Indo.:
bagi mereka yang protes, mereka lebih bersifat Buddhist duniawi dari Buddhist yang agamis.
Sang Buddha tidak mengharuskan apa-apa simbol untuk mewakilinya. Jika pada awalnya patung itu tidak ada,maka perkara ini yang mengaibkan Indonesia [ yg terkenal dengan Bhineka Tunggal Ikanya]tidak akan pernah terjadi.
Buddhis yang 'imannya kecil' terluka ketika mereka melihat simbol 'kemelekatan besar' mereka kepada Sang Buddha diruntuhkan.
orang Muslim yang 'beriman besar' terluka ketika mereka melihat berhala raksasa di tengah-tengah kota yang mayoritas muslim.
Umat &#8203;&#8203;Buddha harus, sebagaimana dilakukan oleh Sang Buddha dalam kisah-kisah Jataka, mengorbanan kebanggaan mereka demi kebahagiaan dan ketenteraman orang awam.
dan bagi komentar saudara,yaitu "Indonesia's 1st religion is Buddha"...sorry,i think you've got your facts wrong.Indonesia was tribal religion + Hinduism first. Buddhism came in much later.Before Candi Borobudur..there were other Hindu Candis first.
Pre-Candi Borobudur form of Hinduism still exist today especially in Bali,though I dare not say it's in its most prestine form. In other parts of Indonesia,it has become Parmalim, Kaharingan and perhaps the latest syncretism,it has become Kejawen.

Hello wrote:

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If your practice of Buddhism offends the majority Muslims, than to appease them should you recommend conversion to make Muslims happy?

toleransi wrote:

buddha datang dari Daratan cina or india ???.
please answer me ...

toleransi wrote:

Oh thank's... aku pikir dari China,ada di acara DAi Tv aku sering nonton Master chang walaupun gw bukan budha tapi ngerasa ajaran sangat penuh cinta dan kasih....saling tolong menolong .Btw benar gak pusat Budha Tsi ada di taiwan?? sorry i'm speak indonsian because my english little bad heheh