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“Formerly "Richard"”

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In the beginning e=mc^2

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#118026
Aug 21, 2012
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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He is a troll! He will never answer a question!
That's why I call Duck12, because he always ducks questions.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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#118027
Aug 21, 2012
 
Boy I can see some tales wagging and feathers flying at DynoNights club of the interstate.

The Neon Sign,“Bring your featherless friend night on Thursday.”

Dinosaurs lined up to pay that cover charge.

“There is no Truth in Faith”

Since: Dec 08

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#118028
Aug 21, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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All in one tiny little spot on a big globe.
Amazerating.
Where did that come from? No, not in one tiny spot on the globe, dumbazz!

“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

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#118029
Aug 21, 2012
 
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>Just wondering if you're still off the cigarettes. I caved about a month ago. I think the only way I'll quit is by sewing my lips together. How can something which is obviously bad for you still be so goddam good?
Yup. Still off. Did you try the chantix?

“There is no Truth in Faith”

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#118030
Aug 21, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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What, did the like meet at the local bar on Friday nights. Instead of showing off tattoo’s they would show off feathers?
The feathers became sort of like a fashion statement. The hip dinosaurs wore like the cool feathers, and bling, bling.
Dinosaurs, earrings, red lipstick and lots of feathers at the dance all night club, DinoNights!
You make them sound too much like Christians.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

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#118031
Aug 21, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
The case against evolution.... Life doesn’t self start from non life, ever ... The idea of life coming from non life is a indefensible hypothesis.
Christians that argue about science with the edifice of science need a reality check. You should probably know that secularists don't accept scientific opinions from theists - just from the consensus of experts in good standing in the relevant scientific fields. If the experts say that the theory of evolution is sound and valid science, then the issue is settled until and unless they say otherwise. You and your church have no vote.

But don't go feeling picked on! It's not just theists that the scientists ignore. If rodeo clowns were to say that "Life doesn’t self start from non life, ever" nobody would bat an eye at that, right? So why would it be different when theists say it?

Likewise, if a consortium of crack whores were to publish a position paper saying, "The idea of life coming from non life is a indefensible hypothesis," nobody would care about that, either. Can you see why that makes sense? It's not just you.

Moreover, it's not just clowns, theists, and whores that are being excluded from the debate. Nobody cares what NAMBLA, Domino's Pizza, or the NFL have to say about evolution, either. Not a one of them has a say or gets a vote on what constitutes good science.

If it comforts you any to know, my lay opinion doesn't matter either. The experts really don't care that I happen to agree with them any more than they do that you don't. That's fair.

You would agree if you weren't made indifferent to your nation's scientific literacy and competitiveness by your church. Now that the manufacturing base has been outsourced, I think that science and technology is all America has to sell the world any more - that and movies. But what the hell, huh? Jesus doesn't like Darwin, so, to hell with science. That's why you're attacking evolution now, isn't it? To weaken Jesus' enemy?

So, where do you think that the opinions of theists rank relative to those of the clowns, pedophiles, pizza delivery boys, and whores? Not surprisingly given the church's hostility to science, it's beneath all of them.

Whereas crack whores and rodeo clowns are merely unqualified to contradict the experts, the theists actually have an agenda to subvert science. That puts your church's opinions on science worth just a tad less.

The antiscientism is yet another reason to want that church of yours to stop influencing people in addition to its fear mongering, hate mongering, and infantilizing.

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#118032
Aug 21, 2012
 
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Where did that come from? No, not in one tiny spot on the globe, dumbazz!

Multiple mutations of the same sort across the globe? At about the same time?

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Aug 21, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Christians that argue about science with the edifice of science need a reality check. You should probably know that secularists don't accept scientific opinions from theists - just from the consensus of experts in good standing in the relevant scientific fields. If the experts say that the theory of evolution is sound and valid science, then the issue is settled until and unless they say otherwise. You and your church have no vote.
But don't go feeling picked on! It's not just theists that the scientists ignore. If rodeo clowns were to say that "Life doesn’t self start from non life, ever" nobody would bat an eye at that, right? So why would it be different when theists say it?
Likewise, if a consortium of crack whores were to publish a position paper saying, "The idea of life coming from non life is a indefensible hypothesis," nobody would care about that, either. Can you see why that makes sense? It's not just you.
Moreover, it's not just clowns, theists, and whores that are being excluded from the debate. Nobody cares what NAMBLA, Domino's Pizza, or the NFL have to say about evolution, either. Not a one of them has a say or gets a vote on what constitutes good science.
If it comforts you any to know, my lay opinion doesn't matter either. The experts really don't care that I happen to agree with them any more than they do that you don't. That's fair.
You would agree if you weren't made indifferent to your nation's scientific literacy and competitiveness by your church. Now that the manufacturing base has been outsourced, I think that science and technology is all America has to sell the world any more - that and movies. But what the hell, huh? Jesus doesn't like Darwin, so, to hell with science. That's why you're attacking evolution now, isn't it? To weaken Jesus' enemy?
So, where do you think that the opinions of theists rank relative to those of the clowns, pedophiles, pizza delivery boys, and whores? Not surprisingly given the church's hostility to science, it's beneath all of them.
Whereas crack whores and rodeo clowns are merely unqualified to contradict the experts, the theists actually have an agenda to subvert science. That puts your church's opinions on science worth just a tad less.
The antiscientism is yet another reason to want that church of yours to stop influencing people in addition to its fear mongering, hate mongering, and infantilizing.
Experts, huh?

You can buy an expert in a court of law to profess most any view you wish to portray as the real one.
Anon

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#118034
Aug 21, 2012
 
Aerobatty wrote:
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Yup. Still off. Did you try the chantix?
Chantix turned me into such a mean and nasty shit, even I didn't want to be around me. I really wanted it to work, but we just didn't get along. My longest and most recent run was nine months after going "cold turkey". I made the mistake of thinking one more can't possibly hurt. Yeah, right, sure. Anyway, congrats on making it this long. I'm gonna try it again - maybe this tme I can quit the little bastards for good.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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#118035
Aug 21, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Christians that argue about science with the edifice of science need a reality check. mongering, hate mongering, and infantilizing.
First of all my opinion does matter because my tax dollars fund science at all levels.

A misnomer that you have is the church is not anti-science as you suggest. That was during the medieval times, the dark ages.

I personally have a problem with one science that has been chocked full of fraud, falsified data, and speculation. It’s the only science that has a enforcement arm. That is the science of evolution.

I don’t believe in the old communism,“you have to believe it because the government said so!”

My opinion is not just as a theist but as a United States Citizen. With inalienable rights under the constitution. The right to free speech and the right to religious freedom are a couple of those rights.

I’m from the South, Houston Texas and I have seen what Rodeo Clowns do. They save lives. They don’t show up and do their job for entertainment. Their job is to save the cowboy from being trampled to death.

I worked in a Science field for 32 years. Along side research chemist, physicist, Engineers, and computer scientist. Also a assorted number of technical experts.

Of course your embracing the communistic militant atheist view that all Christians are on the same level as crack whores and pedophiles. This is exactly how the Nazi’s treated the Jews. It started with trying to dehumanize them just as you have done.

That’s how it started out. Then it was rocks being thrown. Random beatings and killings. Followed by business being burned down. Then on to the Ghettos. Then the last ride to the death camps.

Let me tell you something. You may wish that but it’s not going to happen. It’s not going to happen without a cost. That cost is going to much greater than you can image.

“In the beginning God Created..”

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#118036
Aug 21, 2012
 
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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You make them sound too much like Christians.
If they had believed in God they wouldn't be displayed in Museums today.

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Dave Nelson wrote:
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Yes, we can give up healing our fellow man(for a price), because of discontent, and live la dolce vita. Ah, the commitment to the betterment of our fellow human beings.
Ain't secular humanism grand?
:-)
Do you think you can make humans better?

How divine of you.
Anon

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It aint necessarily so wrote:
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Christians that argue about science with the edifice of science need a reality check. You should probably know that secularists don't accept scientific opinions from theists - just from the consensus of experts in good standing in the relevant scientific fields. If the experts say that the theory of evolution is sound and valid science, then the issue is settled until and unless they say otherwise. You and your church have no vote.
But don't go feeling picked on! It's not just theists that the scientists ignore. If rodeo clowns were to say that "Life doesn’t self start from non life, ever" nobody would bat an eye at that, right? So why would it be different when theists say it?
Likewise, if a consortium of crack whores were to publish a position paper saying, "The idea of life coming from non life is a indefensible hypothesis," nobody would care about that, either. Can you see why that makes sense? It's not just you.
Moreover, it's not just clowns, theists, and whores that are being excluded from the debate. Nobody cares what NAMBLA, Domino's Pizza, or the NFL have to say about evolution, either. Not a one of them has a say or gets a vote on what constitutes good science.
If it comforts you any to know, my lay opinion doesn't matter either. The experts really don't care that I happen to agree with them any more than they do that you don't. That's fair.
You would agree if you weren't made indifferent to your nation's scientific literacy and competitiveness by your church. Now that the manufacturing base has been outsourced, I think that science and technology is all America has to sell the world any more - that and movies. But what the hell, huh? Jesus doesn't like Darwin, so, to hell with science. That's why you're attacking evolution now, isn't it? To weaken Jesus' enemy?
So, where do you think that the opinions of theists rank relative to those of the clowns, pedophiles, pizza delivery boys, and whores? Not surprisingly given the church's hostility to science, it's beneath all of them.
Whereas crack whores and rodeo clowns are merely unqualified to contradict the experts, the theists actually have an agenda to subvert science. That puts your church's opinions on science worth just a tad less.
The antiscientism is yet another reason to want that church of yours to stop influencing people in addition to its fear mongering, hate mongering, and infantilizing.
Excellent post... In all fairness, I have known some rodeo clowns that were pretty sharp... Don't hit me.

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Aug 21, 2012
 
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Jesus doesn't like Darwin, so, to hell with science.
To reject Darwin is to reject all of Science? Astronomy and Astrometry is just as legit as Darwin?
That's why you're attacking evolution now, isn't it? To weaken Jesus' enemy?
Booze? Pills?

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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My opinion is not just as a theist but as a United States Citizen. With inalienable rights under the constitution.
Rights from God. for all people everywhere. Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God. They believe their alleged rights are from men wuth no souls and resistence to tyranny is obedience to men. Under non theism there is no objective stand for tyranny since men determine these things. In other words if men determined all should lick their boots to prove loyality they have no real objective basis to refuse. Worship the king or die a traitor!

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Do you think you can make humans better?
How divine of you.
I think I can make human butter.

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Aug 21, 2012
 
River Tam wrote:
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Do you think you can make humans better?
How divine of you.
Yes, I can.

The bad die young.

I don't have your religious hangups.

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Yes, I can.
The bad die young.
I don't have your religious hangups.
We all die young. That's why they make adult diapers and granny porn.

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Aug 21, 2012
 
Tide with Beach wrote:
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I think I can make human butter.
I have very little fat but I'm not opposed to baby oil.

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Aug 21, 2012
 
River Tam wrote:
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I have very little fat but I'm not opposed to baby oil.
Is that the "No more tears" formula?

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