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“In the beginning God Created..”

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#117135
Aug 14, 2012
 
Turning in, see ya'll later.

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Aug 14, 2012
 

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Eagle12 wrote:
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Like, yo, you gonna do sumthin bout it yo?
Ya gonna send yo homies to come take care of business?
When does your school year begin?

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

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#117137
Aug 14, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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It took some time but I found your group fire fighter pictures.
Nice background, Oh well like they say there is never a good time to take a picture. Lol,
http://www.funnychill.com/media/301/Everybody...
Ex police dispatcher, my ass! See the structure fire in the background, two structures engulfed, that is fire fighter training.

As a dispatcher, you would have been one of the first to know when training was happening. Fires are part of training. We set them in donated, dilapidated, and to be demolished structures. A day like that was usually coupled with a BBQ fund raiser, competiton with other local departments, and demonstrations of skill, from each department's best.

The engulfed structure would be saved, we usually had 2 or 3 training sessions for each structure, before we allowed it to burn down completely.

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#117138
Aug 14, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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Like, yo, you gonna do sumthin bout it yo?
Ya gonna send yo homies to come take care of business?
Homies? What the hell is that.

You got a problem with me agreeing with the poster, so what ... who cares. Grow up, get over it.

Deal with my posts, and quit being a weasel.

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#117139
Aug 14, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
Turning in, see ya'll later.

You want to say atheism is a delusion , but then you say you will see us later.

You can't see us ,you have never seen us. You never will see us... and delusion is you thinking you will see us later. lol

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

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#117140
Aug 14, 2012
 
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The following scripture puts a end to what happens to captive women by Israel army in bible times. They are not raped as you alleged.
Deuteronomy 21 10-13.
10. When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
"and thou hast taken them captive"

If the woman were a human being, that would be rape. Since she is property, a crime has been committed against her father, his hymen has been broken, and her value has plummetted. In fact it's gone, Pa gets 50 sheckels for the destruction of his property. Those hymens are valuable.

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Aug 14, 2012
 
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I know of no example in the old or new testament where 3 or 4 year olds were married. It doesn’t exist.
Since the expression “take a wife” was in Scripture it could not very well be repudiated, but Jewish leaders made it clear that brides could not be bought and that marriage required the consent of the woman herself as well as that of her father. Girls typically married at age 12 or 13, immediately after puberty, so one might be excused for wondering what chance they had of developing an informed opinion beyond that of their fathers.
http://www.womenintheancientworld.com/women%2...
The minimum age for marriage under Jewish law is 13 for boys, 12 for girls; however, the kiddushin can take place before that, and often did in medieval times. The Talmud recommends that a man marry at age 18, or somewhere between 16 and 24.
In all cases, the Talmud specifies that a woman can be acquired only with her consent, and not without it (Kiddushin 2a-b).
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/J...
Also, under Judaism, boys could marry or make religious vows at 14-years-old and girls at 12-years-old, both only with parental permission, which parental permission was required until both boys or girls were 21-years-old ("Adult Age," McClintock and Strong Encyclopaedia).
http://www.gospelgazette.com/gazette/2005/may...
Child marriage
In Ashkenazi communities in the Middle Ages, girls were married off very young(12 1/2) because then they would be able to have children in the Jewish community.[80] Some of the rabbis in the Talmud were in favor of having boys marry as soon as they reached the age of majority ( before 20).[6] Those unmarried after the age of twenty were considered cursed by God.[81] Torah study was viewed as a valid reason for delaying marriage, but lifelong celibacy was discouraged.[82] Despite the young threshold for marriage, a large age gap between the spouses was opposed.[83][84] In modern times, child marriage is extremely rare in the Jewish community; it is banned by law in most countries.
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Actually the >>>>> Sanhedrin <<<<<, says that at three years and one day old, she is old enough to be made a wife, by the act of vaginal penetration.

Now it's true that this is not the bible, but there was >>>> NO BIBLE, during biblical times <<<<<. Those people were Jewish. JESUS WAS A JEWISH RABBI, and he would have lived and taught the Jewish god's commands. The Sanhedrin is part of the Jews holy words, from Jehovah. Below is what Jesus said he came to uphold, not one law to be done away with.

******** SANHEDRIN 55b.******** A maiden aged three years and a day may be acquired in marriage by coition, and if her deceased husband's brother cohabits with her, she becomes his. The penalty of adultery may be incurred through her; [if a niddah] she defiles him who has connection with her, so that he in turn defiles that upon which he lies, as a garment which has lain upon

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Seattle

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#117142
Aug 14, 2012
 
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Delusion is believing a secular world would be a non violent world. Many of conflict occurred over land and border issues not religion.
Another delusion is this statement you made:
“If delusion was not masked by religious beliefs getting a free pass, then we could find those who are delusional and still maintain freedom and liberty.”
I’m not even sure you know what the hell you are saying.
No, of course you used a truly vile fallacy in this, the assumption of meaning. I did not say it would be a non-violent world, only that by bringing delusion out of the mask of religion we would be able to reduce violence caused by it.

Delusion is the inability to separate fiction and reality, since the god is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, it is fiction, therefore believing the god is real is delusion by definition. There is no escaping it, theism is a delusion, people who believe in a being that is not demonstrably real is confusing fiction for reality. Wanting to help those delusional people is sanity and empathy.

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Aug 15, 2012
 
Catcher1 wrote:
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When does your school year begin?
Mine just started. I'm doing very well so far.

http://www.funnychill.com/media/326/How_To_Ge...

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#117144
Aug 15, 2012
 
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>It's not rape if the god allows it.
Rape is taking something from a woman, and biblically woman has nothing. She is property, she is merely a carrier for the receptacle, which is some man's alternative to spilling seed on the ground. The seed receptacle keeps him from sinning and may even be given to the neighbor to use in the streets, depending on the whims of the god. This is of course a punishment for the man, not her. She is not touched, only that bit between her legs, which belongs to one of three men. Unauthorized use of her seed receptacle is a crime against her father, fiance, or her husband.
That's not rape, because she has lost nothing.
That's right! Women were property and if you could murder your slave, because the slave was your property, I am sure that screwing your 'captive wife' was OK, too!

Why any modern women would believe in such a religion, is beyond me.

“I see quantum effects”

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In the macro world.

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#117145
Aug 15, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
<quoted text>Delusion is believing a secular world would be a non violent world. Many of conflict occurred over land and border issues not religion.

Another delusion is this statement you made:

“If delusion was not masked by religious beliefs getting a free pass, then we could find those who are delusional and still maintain freedom and liberty.”

IÂ’m not even sure you know what the hell you are saying.
Who ever said a secular world would be non violent?

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#117146
Aug 15, 2012
 
baking soda wrote:
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No one can have enough faith to trust that there is no God. I mean, the evidence of their being a God is overwhelming. That's why atheists are so frantic and NEED forums like this to pacify their extensive worries off on other atheists who lie to them daily to ease their uncomfortable concerns that they are wrong.
Sharing lies with each other is a tool of denial and should be considered cruel and unethical to one's self and to all involved in the lying. A person should be true to themself, and shew away liars like atheists are.
Plus, if they got the proof they keep asking for, they would still blaspheme God and never obey Him. It's a pointless issue. They are just inherently monsters of deception.
You pretty much nailed it with that post. Couldn't have said it better.

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Aug 15, 2012
 
baking soda wrote:
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There's NOTHING like a well-informed zealoted bigot in Hell burning.
This is why you will have that extra, extra stupid feeling of shame, disgrace, and embarrassment when you are burning in Hell.
You'll have all that immense knowledge of the bible swirling around in your thick, hateful noggin , especially the parts where it spoke of you going to Hell for not believing in and honoring God, to ponder on as you wallow around in fire , being tortured for eternity as punishment for your rebellion, scoffing, persecuting lifestyle.
You are the moron of the day.
Another nice one. It's amazing how they can read the Bible and then change all of the contexts around to fit their agenda of hatred.
Atheists just can't think hard enough to get satisfied with their lame excuses.

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#117148
Aug 15, 2012
 
Eagle12 wrote:
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I can,
“zealoted bigot”
A militant atheist.
Perfect answer.

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#117149
Aug 15, 2012
 
TheBlackSheep wrote:
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Now STFU
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Still having an anger issue I see.

You are so valueless and empty without Christianity in your life.

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#117150
Aug 15, 2012
 
KittenKoder wrote:
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A militant atheist is trying to get you to stop wasting your life and stop harming other people because of your delusion.
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Christians aren't harming anyone. It is your militant atheism that has, and still is, destroyed/destroying the minds and lives of people worldwide.

Your atheism™ is the #1 leading cause of the crimes we see everyday on the news, suicide, corrupt politicians, immoral behaviors like homosexuality, dishonorable and unethical chemical dependencies, and the lists goes on and on.

You are a duped and confused lying militant atheist bigot.

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KittenKoder wrote:
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No, of course you used a truly vile fallacy in this, the assumption of meaning. I did not say it would be a non-violent world, only that by bringing delusion out of the mask of religion we would be able to reduce violence caused by it.
Delusion is the inability to separate fiction and reality, since the god is not proven beyond a reasonable doubt, it is fiction, therefore believing the god is real is delusion by definition. There is no escaping it, theism is a delusion, people who believe in a being that is not demonstrably real is confusing fiction for reality. Wanting to help those delusional people is sanity and empathy.
Your pointless life clearly reveals who is delusional .....those who know there is a God yet rebel against God. That's all you're doing, nothing less.

You know there is a God but you adore and embrace anything that represents evil and wickedness, and your heartless life is committed to destroying the lives of everyone you come near, lying to them to their death, whereby they meet God and then get cast into Hell for trusting your lie.

If there was no God, you would not even be on a forum at all,.....no one would. But because you are receiving the spiritual nudge that God is really there and rejecting it, you have the NEED to express your lies claiming He doesn't exist to pacify your day to day, hour by hour brainwashing methods to maintain that lie.

You are mentally dead.

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Aug 15, 2012
 
Ooogah Boogah wrote:
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Are you being funny? They are exactly the same species, of course they are related, they can interbreed. They are closely related.
In fact all life on earth is "related", though perhaps not as closely. We all came from the same single celled ancestor billions of years ago. All living things are our cousins. Deal with it.
I think you missed the original posts made by duck12 that he could not believe that a hummingbird and an ostrich were related. I simple asked him if he thought Great Danes and chihuahuas were related or kittens and Tigers, or whale sharks and minnows. He see the dog and cat relationship, but cant see the hummingbird/ostrich or the whale shark/minnow relationship.

I tried to show him that they are in the same family, but I am not the one that thinks they have no relationship.

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Aug 15, 2012
 
Just Results wrote:
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Christians aren't harming anyone.
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Brevik?
Just Results wrote:
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It is your militant atheism that has, and still is, destroyed/destroying the minds and lives of people worldwide.
Then give us one incident of a militant atheist bombing or shooting anyone
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Your atheism™ is the #1 leading cause of the crimes we see everyday on the news, suicide, corrupt politicians, immoral behaviors like homosexuality, dishonorable and unethical chemical dependencies, and the lists goes on and on.
You are a duped and confused lying militant atheist bigot.
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Atheists represent 2 or 3 percent of the population. You honestly want to blame all crime on 2% of the population?

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Eagle12 wrote:
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The following scripture puts a end to what happens to captive women by Israel army in bible times. They are not raped as you alleged.
Deuteronomy 21 10-13.
10. When thou goest forth to war against thine enemies, and the Lord thy God hath delivered them into thine hands, and thou hast taken them captive,
11. And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
12. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
I believe you are truly insane. How would you feel if an army surrounded the city you live in, killed everyone you are related to including your mother, father, sister, brother, aunts, uncle, grandparents. Then you have to watch as they die, and as they burn your city. Then one of the killers drags you to his house, shaves your head, takes your clothes, allows you only 30 days to cry. Do you now think she loves this killer and jumped in bed with him voluntarily? If you do, you are more insane than I thought. The verse says "go in into her" and then she is your wife. That can be any way he can get it including rape. She is NOT volunteering for this.

Same as marrying young girls, women had no say so. Same as the middle east right now. They are still living bibical times as far as how men dominate women. You are just a blind fool who refused to uncover your eyes and look.

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