Atheism requires as much faith as religion?

timn17 wrote:

<quoted text>Why do you insist on typing like you're doing your best to invoke Mark Twain writing dialogue for a vampire hillbilly? It's truly baffling.

timn17 wrote:

<quoted text>Still the same.

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Benjamin Frankly wrote:

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God is imposing Belief in him he has set the situation in such a way that he doesn’t need to waste time sending people to hell you just go there, I can hear your objection “God didn’t do that” but he did you say he made every thing so does that not include the rules on who goes up or down, the only way you can get out of this and keep your claim that I send my self to hell is to lose the claim that God made every thing. So yes if I was speeding the police would be imposing a speeding ticket on me they have made the law in such a way that I would get one.
But let me give the reason why I put forward the A.I. creator is to test if you will give a double stranded towards God you would be surprised how many people do that.
There was a Jewish teacher (I can’t remember his name) that told story’s about the emperor of china and the crimes he committed, he did this many times to some of his class’s, what he didn’t tell those class’s is that he lifted them from the Old Testament these unedited story’s he gave to his other class’s, he found that the emperor of china got from ¾’s of the class’s condemnation but the God for doing the same thing the emperor “did” was condoned by the class.

Double Fine wrote:

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Try him.
In fact, we showed him clips of exposers, demonstrating how several types of levitations are done (some by magnets, some by strings, some by simple misdirection and camera tricks)
We even proved to him that CA recycles his 'random audiences'.
His position?'Prove it was NOT magic!'

timn17 wrote:

<quoted text>I know right? What happened to the good old days, when christians were allowed to freely dominate the airwaves, when the media cared about things like the "war on chrismas," when christians outnumbered atheists 10 to 1, when there was immense societal pressure on everyone to be a christian...
Oh, wait..

bossdrop wrote:

<quoted text>How is God imposing belief on you?

Dave Nelson wrote:

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You didn't have the frequency of mass murders, amount of freaks and disturbed people, or less personal responsibility that you have today. That is a fact.
You still had gays, swingers, lots of sex, drugs, and drinking, though. Just not so much in the public's face.
People are monkeys, remember? Monkey see, monkey do.

-Skeptic- wrote:

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God isn't real, so has no effect. It's the followers who impose beliefs, just listen to yourselves..

-Skeptic- wrote:

It's difficult to trust the opinions of theists about their views on society, since they've committed to beliving in things that aren't really there.
We to hear opinions of people who live in the real world.

Givemeliberty wrote:

If you get a chance send me the link to that omfg that is too classic! Prove it wasn't magic! Lmfao!!
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bossdrop wrote:

*is fit to do..

Double Fine wrote:

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Hey Boss, for the benefit of the other poster, can you please enlighten us on how Cris Angel is able to levitate?
Thanks

bossdrop wrote:

<quoted text>How is God imposing belief on you? Most here are atheists, obviously belief in God is not imposed on them, so you're clearly not making sense there.
God did make everything. Society have laws. You speed, you get a ticket. You reject Jesus Christ, you go to hell. How is that "imposed" on you? you don't want a ticket, then don't speed. You want to avoid hell, worship Jesus Christ. Your usage of the term 'impose' to make your point is not valid.
No double standard here. God does own each person. So God allowed free will and choice on this earth. But once a person dies, then God, who is the original owner of that life and soul, if fit do do with His property as He pleases.
That's fair and right.

-Skeptic- wrote:

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It's a good idea to prove your bullsh*t god before blaming society for being society.
For all your moral posturing, all theists are liars who being deliberately dishonest when they claim that god is real.

Benjamin Frankly wrote:

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Have I not explained God put’s a punishment worse than death for just what you think but, the USSR did the same thing punish the unbelievers so in the end there’s only the one’s willing to kiss the leaders ass, it’s such a common way of succouring power it’s almost text book, it is also in principal the way all law’s work so it is all way’s the case that the one who lays down such laws is the one responsible for someone else’s punishment, thus the speeder is not the one responsible for being punished but the law maker’s, as you can see this is not bad thing but nor is it good it is but a tool it has no objections to it’s user so a law most not be judge one how it is enforced (unless the punishment is whose than the crime for these reasons*), instead it most be judge on (*)how much wellbeing it gives and how many it gives wellbeing to, so God’s punishment for unbelief and his “right” to own other’s is not just for it only give’s wellbeing to one man, this is also why the A.I. maker is also not just.
The reason why I explained why I put the A.I. maker test to you is to say you past it, you didn’t make a double standard and you went though to the end of your line of logic and applied it to all not just the one who you support… this is not something to be proud of… you have admitted in that situation would allow the suffering of other sentient beings to occur, that said I’m not sure what is worse this or double standard’s as that means you wouldn’t have been turning your beliefs on and off depending on who you are judging, I will that to the viewer.

Double Fine wrote:

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Hey Boss, for the benefit of the other poster, can you please enlighten us on how Cris Angel is able to levitate?
Thanks

bossdrop wrote:

<quoted text>is there someone holding a gun to your head forcing you to believe in God? You want to live your life believing God is not real, no one is stopping you. This is America, not Pakistan. You're quite free to believe God does not exist, freedom of religion is great.

Dave Nelson wrote:

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Years and years ago when I was into photography I learned a little trick when changing screw thread camera lenses. You place the lens against the base, turn it counterclockwise a partial turn, then gently start screwing ii in to avoid crossthreading.
Try to remember that tomorrow morning when you get up and try to get your head prepared for the day.
As it is, that probably went right over your head.