'Serpent-Handling' West Virginia Pastor Dies From Snake Bite

Amused wrote:

Now, if we could only convince christians to enter lion's dens as proof of their faith...

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Reason Personified wrote:

<quoted text>My youngest was bitten by a Copperhead, he picked it up, he was close to two years old then. It got him just below the wrist junction. One puncture straight in, the second a scrape puncture at the outer curve of the lower palm. No antivenom for him either, just a doctor who carefully watched to judge the amount of anti-venom he might need. There are potentially serious risks in using the antivenom. After about three or four hours, it was judged to be most likely a dry bite. None, or almost no venom injected. Not a single prayer either.

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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Riiiight....
... as if YOU have an actual daughter!
As if some poor woman would consent to bear YOU child-- perhaps you used deadly force on her?
But nevermind that obvious lie.
Did you know that all venomous snakes control their venom?
And that the majority of bites are delivered WITHOUT venom?
Any scientist who studies venomous snakes will tell you this fact.
But you are so ignorant, you were unaware of this FACT.
You just...
... BELIEVE.
Don't you?
Lying is not only your best move...
... it's also your ONLY move.

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Reason Personified wrote:

<quoted text>Anti-venom is seldom kept in most hospitals. Knowing the snakes breed is about as important as getting to the hospital. There is an amazing anti-venom delivery set-up in East Texas.
We live, work, hunt, fish, play in the great outdoors, and all of us have been snake bitten, but only three of my sons have been bitten by posionous snakes, and all three were Copperheads.
We have even participated in the rattle snake round-ups, and I have once before (in these threads) told of rattle snake tamales that I made from scratch, in Mangum, Oklahoma ~ 1974.

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emperorjohn wrote:

<quoted text> That is a horrible thing to say, but Christians are not well known for their empathy despite their claims to the contrary. He made a prediction the same way that they always predict the end of the world.

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havent forgotten wrote:

<quoted text> I am not sure that would be humane to lions, either. Besides, the only Christians who deserve that fate are the ones who are really nasty or horrible in their beliefs, or actions, or how they vote or what causes they support. There is a remnant of nice ones.

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Eagle12 wrote:

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Bob, I have built up a resistance to your venom. It doesn’t bother me any more. Granted it has taken a while.
I don’t care about your insults or rants.
I consider it a high honor to be on your hate list. That means I’m on the right track and going the right way.
You are going to have to try harder to be mean.
Bless you Bob,

Amused wrote:

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Actually, in the US, knowing the species of snake responsible is not important. The anti-venom for all three pit viper species in the US is Cro-fab. The newer version is made using sheep, and produces fewer allergic reactions than the previous equine version. The only native venomous snake whose bite cannot be treated with Cro-fab is the coral snake, which is an elapid, not a viper, and its venom is a neurotoxin. I recall a couple of years ago, the only manufacturer of coral snake anti-venom was stopping production so there may be an issue with availability,

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Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:

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The coral snake is all but extinct in the wild, unfortunately.
Due to human encroachment, and destruction of it's environment.
It was a rare beast from the get-go anyway.

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Eagle12 wrote:

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Bob, I have built up a resistance to your venom. It doesn’t bother me any more. Granted it has taken a while.
I don’t care about your insults or rants.
I consider it a high honor to be on your hate list. That means I’m on the right track and going the right way.
You are going to have to try harder to be mean.
Bless you Bob,

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Amused wrote:

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Apart from religious lunatics, a significant number of snake bites in the US are to young males, particularly bites to the upper extremities, indicative of an attempt to handle the snake. As one medical journal article dryly noted, alcohol intoxication is a common co-morbid condition.
Coral snake bites are very rare, partly because the snakes are rare, and partly because the snakes themselves are fairly docile and don't usually bite unless provoked. Even then, about 50% of coral snake bites are dry bites. Because they are neurotoxic, though, there isn't the same immediate pain and swelling, and symptoms often don't manifest until 12 or more hours after a bite. The patient can go from seeming fine to respiratory paralysis very quickly once the symptoms appear, however.
Here in New England, I don't see many snakes at all, and you have to work at finding a venomous one. When I was in SE Asia, though, I did see a Russell's Viper, which is one of the species responsible for a very large number of snakebite deaths.

The serpent was right wrote:

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In other words, rather then adress his facts about venomous snakes, you have decided to run away.

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Amused wrote:

Now, if we could only convince christians to enter lion's dens as proof of their faith...

GhostShaman wrote:

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Or convince the atheists to shoot themselves and prove their case.

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sid wrote:

Maybe the snake was an atheist.

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GhostShaman wrote:

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Or convince the atheists to shoot themselves and prove their case.

Normal Flora wrote:

The snake-handling and poison-drinking passages in the bible are an intelligence test from god. If you believe them, you fail.

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Normal Flora wrote:

The snake-handling and poison-drinking passages in the bible are an intelligence test from god. If you believe them, you fail.

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clem wrote:

<quoted text> And the snake was probally gay.