In America, atheists are still in the closet

Buck Crick wrote:

"Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door." -Professor Richard Lewontin, geneticist and Darwinist

Like we tell the people who fret about gods being thrown out of schools, if you can keep it's foot out of the door, it ain't divine.

Buck Crick wrote:

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That's what I said - the earth is not round.
I can say it with a better economy of words than you.

Except that you have said the same damn thing oh, I'll bet at least fifty times now.

We heard it already.

Not round.

OK.

Buck Crick wrote:

Satellite orbits
"The fact that the Earth's gravitational field slightly deviates from being spherically symmetrical also affects the orbits of satellites and changes their orbits away from pure ellipses. This is especially important in the case of the trajectories of GPS-satellites."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equatorial_bulge

ID is not science.

Buck Crick wrote:

But for the Earth the applied forces of the Sun and the Moon are in the first instance perpendicular to it.
Thus, the Sun and the Moon do not work on the rotation axis.
Instead they work on the equatorial bulge; due to its own rotation, the Earth is not a perfect sphere but an oblate spheroid, with an equatorial diameter about 43 kilometers larger than its polar diameter.
If the Earth were a perfect sphere, there would be no precession.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/p/preces...

ID is not science.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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PS: As has been pointed out to you numerous times: there is nothing in the universe that is perfectly round, and you insisted that round covered only flat objects.
As has been pointed out to you numerous times: when compared to a billiard ball, the earth is indeed round, no matter how hard you stomp your fat tea bag feet.

Round generally does not refer to 3-dimensional objects.

It refers to discs or circles.

You are now requiring precision of terms that you do not require of you own argument when you argue the earth is round.

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Physics News: "The earth is not round."

I'll repeat that for you - the earth is not round.

The earth is not round is what they are saying.

They mean by this the earth is not round.

When they say the earth is not round, what they are telling you is "the earth is not round".

It tipped me off right off the bat - that the earth is not round.

I read it again, and it still said "The earth is not round".

I therefore concluded they are saying the earth is not round.

That's because the earth is not round.

Not round.

The earth.

Not round.

"Not round", to me, means "not round".

Buck Crick wrote:

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How far off would it have to be from round to be not-round?

Let's first agree you told us that round could not be used to describe 3D objects a few days ago.

And then we can move to what is "round".

And since you are asking an OPINION on what is round, I would say that if you put a perfect round object the size of, say, a billiard ball (putting aside there are no percent round objects in the universe) and you put another object the same size next to it and you could not tell the difference between the two visually: they are both round.

Putting aside that you insisted you aren't talking to me, so much for that vacation of while you were sleeping.

Buck Crick wrote:

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That's what I said - the earth is not round.
I can say it with a better economy of words than you.

ID is not science.

Buck Crick wrote:

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"Good general adjective"??
Wrong, but if you like it, use the wrong term.
This started with BoarFace asserting "round" was a superior description than another description.
By the same principle, I gave him a better one.
Still he, and idiots like you, argue for the inferior description.
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, but the earth is not round.

ID is not science.

It aint necessarily so wrote:

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Like we tell the people who fret about gods being thrown out of schools, if you can keep it's foot out of the door, it ain't divine.

Fine, but the other scientist quoted about "order of nature" lets the foot in the door.

Lewontin knew the danger of that.

That's why he said we (scientists) cannot allow it.

Buck Crick wrote:

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The earth is not round.

ID is not science.

Mike N wrote:

Of course they are. Because believers are a danger to them. Believers do unspeakable things to those who don't think like them. Its bad enough that some humans are unkind to others but its worse when those humans use dark age mythology to justify it. Hopefully one day religion will cease in this world and people will operate on logic. That alone will change the world for the better.

I so agree....many human and animal lives have been lost in the name of religion, I was baptized Catholic and have since questioned religion as a whole. Way to many bad things have occurred in this world for there to be a higher power....I don't buy into the "Free Will" argument.....

Buck Crick wrote:

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"Good general adjective"??
Wrong, but if you like it, use the wrong term.
This started with BoarFace asserting "round" was a superior description than another description.
By the same principle, I gave him a better one.
Still he, and idiots like you, argue for the inferior description.
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings, but the earth is not round.

"round/round/
Adjective: Shaped like or approximately like a circle or cylinder

Synonyms: adjective. circular - rotund - globular - plump - spherical"

Buck Crick wrote:

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"The earth is not round".

ID is not science.

Are you starting to understand the silliness?

Catcher1 wrote:

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ID is not science.

Are you trying to distract me, Soccer Boy?

The earth is not round.

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Physics News: "The earth is not round".

This means "the earth is not round".

"Earth" refers to "earth". "Round" refers to "round".

"Not" means "not".

Put it together - The earth is not round.

Buck Crick wrote:

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I therefore concluded they are saying the earth is not round.
That's because the earth is not round.
Not round.
The earth.
Not round.
"Not round", to me, means "not round".

ID is not science.

ID.

Not science.

I'll stop if you will.

Buck Crick wrote:

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"The earth is not round".

I've already pointed out to you before you even opened your big ignorant mouth it's "not perfectly round".

No matter how many times you spam the forum.

Flagged.

Buck Crick wrote:

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Are you trying to distract me, Soccer Boy?
The earth is not round.

Spam.

Flagged.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Let's first agree you told us that round could not be used to describe 3D objects a few days ago.
And then we can move to what is "round".
And since you are asking an OPINION on what is round, I would say that if you put a perfect round object the size of, say, a billiard ball (putting aside there are no percent round objects in the universe) and you put another object the same size next to it and you could not tell the difference between the two visually: they are both round.
Putting aside that you insisted you aren't talking to me, so much for that vacation of while you were sleeping.

"Round" is a poor description of any object, worse when applied to 3-D objects.

You already admitted a billiard ball is not perfectly round.

Given - that if you compare something not-round to another object that is not-round, but you are just calling it "round", it will appear round.

If neither object is "round", comparing one to the other does not make them "round".

If you compare an object that "looks" round to a perfectly round object the size of a billiard ball, it will still "look round".

That does not mean it is round.

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Physics News: "The earth is not round".

Catcher1 wrote:

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ID is not science.
ID.
Not science.
I'll stop if you will.

The earth is a flat round disc.

If you take pictures from space, it looks like a flat disc.

If saying it "looks round" means it is round, then saying it "looks like a disc" means it is a disc.

barefoot2626 wrote:

Of course, the USA ranks first in *actual* numbers of metals.

America tied for first for the most metals won.

[This should be good for about three weeks]