In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>You don't get it, do you? You're so submersed in yourself and your own theories that you can't even see why that statement was funny.
What statement was funny?

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<quoted text>*thud*
Okay, I accept that, too.
Ow.
And he still has no idea why it was funny when he said that ID 'even accepts gravity'. The only thing that would have made that funnier is if he had added 'under certain circumstances'.

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Gravity is not an attractive force like most think, the higgs boson should shed some light on the subject with the continued study of gravitons
Yeah gravity bends under it.

The Solar system is almost like a rock you throw into water & it floats with water bending under it.
With ripples around it being like the planets going around.

For this reason I believe that gravity is caused by the Universe being like a Sea of Dark Matter.

It is a bit of a mystery.

Because we don't even really understand Gravity or Dark matter fully.
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Nothing changes the fact that Jesus was a Jew, he lived as a Jew and died as a Jew, he never once said Judaism was wrong and he wanted to start a new religeon, he never said that and never wanted that, he was a Jew and believed wholeheartedly in the Jewish faith. He never wanted to start a new religeon so Christianity is a total fraud and a snap, made up as it went along long after Jesus died by ambitious people who saw it as a way of getting power, like Roman emporer constantine, Christianity is a FRAUD
Jesus corrected the stiff-necked, human deterioration of Judaism by irrefutably reminding them that all people are welcome in His Kingdom and all people are worthy of redemption.

Atheists are scavengers and cannibals, living off the sins, failures and waste of mankind, and whose jealous offer to humanity is that they all become scavengers and cannibals... sealing their doom. There is nothing more offensive than an atheist Jew.

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Cows have served for thousands of years as man's greatest aid, we don't judge other cultures who have long lived off cattle
Yeah

Indians serve cows

Cows serve Europeans

Gentiles serve Jews

For Jews we are Cattle.

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There is nothing more offensive than an atheist Jew.
Atheist Jews have certainly made up some of the worst humans.

Like Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda, Lev Bronstein A.K.A Leon Trotsky, Karl Marx
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If god exists, he planned to give america a taste of hell this summer...
Hot enough? Allah, jaweh, christ,and THE rest of their team are probably getting high in Vegas...(with airco)

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There is nothing more offensive than an atheist Jew.
Really religious Jews can be extremely offensive too.

Like this Jewish maniac women in the video doing Jewish curses & saying serve the Jews or die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...
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Really religious Jews can be extremely offensive too.
Like this Jewish maniac women in the video doing Jewish curses & saying serve the Jews or die.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
Atheists made her do it. They'd like nothing better than to serve the Jews... on toast.

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Atheists made her do it. They'd like nothing better than to serve the Jews... on toast.
Elohim made her do it! Elohim wants her to curse goyim & have goyim serve the jews or die!

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You are such a fucking liar.
1. "Next to no peer-reviewd research"?
Did you not see me burn Hiding on that one?
As of 2011, there are over 50. Here's one:
Michael J. Behe,“Experimental Evolution, Loss-of-Function Mutations, and ‘The First Rule of Adaptive Evolution,’” The Quarterly Review of Biology, Vol. 85(4):1-27 (December 2010).
2. "Not a scientific theory"?
"The theory of intelligent design holds that certain features of living things are best explained by an intelligent cause, not an undirected process. Through the study and analysis of a system's components, a design theorist is able to determine whether various natural structures are the product of chance, natural law, intelligent design, or some combination thereof. Such research is conducted by observing the types of information produced when intelligent agents act. Scientists then seek to find phenomena which have those same types of informational properties which we commonly know come from intelligence. Intelligent design has applied these scientific methods to detect design in irreducibly complex biological structures and the complex and specified information content in DNA"
3. "It was the church"
The intelligent design "term" was coined by two atheists, Fred Hoyle and James Horiganz:
"If one proceeds directly and straightforwardly in this matter, without being deflected by a fear of incurring the wrath of scientific opinion, one arrives at the conclusion that biomaterials with their amazing measure of order must be the outcome of *intelligent design*."
The Intelligent Design "movement" was started by three scientists, Charles Thaxton, Walter Bradley, and Roger Olsen:
"We have observational evidence in the present that intelligent investigators can (and do) build contrivances to channel energy down nonrandom chemical pathways to bring about some complex chemical synthesis, even gene building. May not the principle of uniformity then be used in a broader frame of consideration to suggest that DNA had an intelligent cause at the beginning?"
Charles Thaxton, Walter Bradley, Roger Olsen, The Mystery of Life’s Origin, pg. 211 (Lewis & Stanley, 1984).
4. "Intelligent Design is creationism repackaged to get around the Edwards decision" (from you previously)
Thaxton, Bradley, and Olsen published their work in 1984. The Edwards decision was in 1987.
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I bet you're starting to lose interest, huh?
I love it that you give an ID biologist credit for unbiased research against itself.

I also love that you give someone who teaches at a college whose average SAT scores are 1350. Yale, on the other hand, has average SAT scores of 2100-2370; University of California Berekley at 3000; Dartmouth at 2380, etc.

The value of the teacher is directly proportionate to the educational evaluation.

It is also noteworthy that Behe is a biologist, not a physicist. He has absolutely no expertise in physics.

ID lost in the court of a Christian judge. I don't think any more need be said.

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Atheists made her do it. They'd like nothing better than to serve the Jews... on toast.
This rabbi is funny & racist!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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<quoted text>You don't get it, do you? You're so submersed in yourself and your own theories that you can't even see why that statement was funny.
Do you have a fire bush?

Is it true Redhead women have more sex?

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Buck Crick wrote:
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You should study the modal differences in what is "possible", "probable", and "actual".
Then you might not make such bull shit statements.
Somehow,*you* labelling something as bull shit is just funny.

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Cows have served for thousands of years as man's greatest aid, we don't judge other cultures who have long lived off cattle
Isn't it interesting how Indians spoke of Mahabharata & Bhagavad Gita so close to that of U.F.O's & E.T's?

How Cows are sacred to Indians?

Today there are many accounts of Cattle Mutilations with likely connections to U.F.O's & E.T's?

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doesn't make him into a godfearing christian bible thumper.
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
From a letter Einstein wrote in English, dated 24 March 1954.
Spinozism (also spelt Spinoza-ism or Spinozaism) is the monist philosophical system of Baruch Spinoza which defines "God" as a singular self-subsistent substance, and both matter and thought as attributes of such. Pantheism. Not a christian, though many have tried to make one of him. Then there are those good Christians who have openly spoken out against Spinoza's pantheism.

Not a single Christian can agree on what any other Christian believes.

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<quoted text>You don't get it, do you? You're so submersed in yourself and your own theories that you can't even see why that statement was funny.
Do Redhead girls with freckles also have freckles on their vagina?

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That's not science, buddy.
That's ad hoc speculation as a prop for argument.
Not at all. Entropy is directly related to the number of accessible quantum states. During a 'bounce', it is quite likely that the number of such states is limited and so entropy would *have* to decrease as a bounce is approached. That would, in turn, mean that both sides of a bounce have oppositely directed entropy arrows.

The oscillating universe is rather unlikely because of the accelerating expansion, but a previous contracting universe is still possible to likely depending on the model. This argument suggests that the direction of entropy switches at the bounce, which destorys your argument.
If a theory needs suspension of general relativity and thermodynamics to be plausible, with no (zero) positive evidence for it, you might as well be juggling your balls and whistling.
We *know* that general relativiy has to be modified for quantum level phenomena. We have a couple of plausible theories on how to do that. Thermodynamics is simply large scale statistical mechanics with entropy relating to a count of accessible quantum states.
General relativity might "need" to be altered for consitency with quantum mechanics, but you don't *know* what the alteration is, or if it would escape the requirements of the second law.
I am not suggesting a violation of the second law, appropriately stated. If anything, it suggests that entropy in an open universe always has an arrow in the same direction as the expansion. Such has been speculated before.
No, the "arrow of entropy" cannot be reversed - at least you have no basis for suggesting it might - other than your imagination.
On the contrary, if there is a restriction on the number of accessible quantum states, entropy *would* be reversed. This is likely in a contracting universe with a bounce.
No, infinite past is impossible, and that is considering all possibilities.
Try counting down from infinity. We exist. That disproves past infinity.
Only in your imagination. Your lack of understanding of the requirements of infinity is only a problem for you.

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HugeKielbasa wrote:
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Indians must be traumatized by America!
OOOH GAARRWDDD VISHNU
How do these Americans enslave our sacred cow & grab their boobs for milk by the millions.
Then they kill them & put them in burgers, steaks, meat loafs
OH Garrwwdd Vishnu how could you let this happen?
McDonalds is sac religious! They serve billions of dead sacred cows!
Now this here is funny, I don't give a darn who you are.

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<quoted text>Now this here is funny, I don't give a darn who you are.
Well Mcdonald's doesn't serve cow in India! LOL!

mainstream Orthodox Hinduism. Slaughter of cows (including oxen, bulls and calves) is forbidden by law in several states of the Indian Union. McDonalds outlets in India do not serve any beef burgers. At one time the death sentence was imposed for killing a cow in India,[77] and as late as 1960, an individual could serve three months in jail for killing a pedestrian, but one year for injuring a cow, and life imprisonment for killing

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