Future of religion questioned as atheists gather

Apr 13, 2012 Full story: www.abc.net.au 724

Religion will be a non-event in Australia within two generations according to the head of the country's atheist foundation.

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OBL

Toronto, Canada

#1 Apr 13, 2012
Religion and the belief of the higher power shall cease up to 99%, not only in Australia but also in Canada. It is indeed a SAD thing.
Mike N

New City, NY

#2 Apr 13, 2012
Damn, I wish I would have been born 2 generations from now. I would move there in a second. I would still have all the wonderful things democracy brings without religion rearing its ugly head at me all the time.
LMR

Melbourne, Australia

#3 Apr 13, 2012
All my catholic primary school teaching did for me as a young child was to give me a guilt trip.
LMR

Melbourne, Australia

#4 Apr 13, 2012
Mike N wrote:
Damn, I wish I would have been born 2 generations from now. I would move there in a second. I would still have all the wonderful things democracy brings without religion rearing its ugly head at me all the time.
I can't imagine the muslims turning away from their cult any time soon. They have their own schools and mosques everywhere and above all else our democracies protect (and even promote) "religious freedom".

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#5 Apr 13, 2012
An end to religion would be nice but I suppose the kind of ppl that are religious would find another avenue for thier psychosis.

ZBJ
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#6 Apr 14, 2012
ZombieBabyJesus wrote:
An end to religion would be nice but I suppose the kind of ppl that are religious would find another avenue for thier psychosis.
ZBJ
Perhaps not? The essence of religion is superstition and that has been largely discredited.

Witchcraft and other superstitions persist in Africa and (you are correct) there will always be some level of superstition in some people. However, religion could arguably be perceived as the last bastion of superstition for large populations. I think we are witnessing the final demise of mass superstition in Europe and most western countries. Unfortunatesly, the USA seems to be a follower, rather than a leader in this respect.

The Arab Spring is concerning as Islamic culture is flourishing - to an extent. The downside to that is bound to manifest itself in these freer societies and that too may moderate and decline in the face of education, scientific understanding and the forces of modernisation and globalisation.

We are living through a communications revolution and that is relevant too. When I was a boy, there were two TV channels and one or two hour's news per day. Now we have livefeed news, facebook and the Internet. Ideas and culture is instantly spread and appraised right across the Globe. Today's environment is hard for superstitions to survive.

Religion has one serious flaw - it makes no sense.
KoalaGums

Sydney, Australia

#7 Apr 14, 2012
As a former Seventh Day Adventist, I will only say one thing about such a future: BRING IT ON!!!
thinkso

Penrith, Australia

#8 Apr 14, 2012
I will vote only for atheist politicians.
None of my tax must go to the religious nutters.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#9 Apr 14, 2012
thinkso wrote:
I will vote only for atheist politicians.
None of my tax must go to the religious nutters.
As an atheist, I totally disagree.

Atheists naturally (and quite correctly) complain about being discriminated against. The USA is a classic case. Few who are openly atheist could be elected there. What is wanted is less discrimination, not for atheists to be reduced to the behaviour of religionists.

There is more to a person than their religious beliefs. One need have nothing but contempt for religious superstitions and dogma, I agree, but one shouldn't be prejudiced against people. Some who are religious may be more intelligent, practical or have better political policies than I. We want to put religion into perspective and into its place, not replace religious prejudice with an atheist one.
thinkso

Penrith, Australia

#10 Apr 14, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text> Some who are religious may be more intelligent, practical or have better political policies than I.
Religious people are much less intelligent than I am.
I have spoken to hundreds of them.
They don't have a clue about anything.

Why should I tolerate these fools.
They all threaten me with burning for ever.
Many would kill me if they could get away with it.

Do you tolerate them like a xstian?
Love your enemies?
The nonsense spreads like a cancer amongst the dimwits.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#11 Apr 14, 2012
thinkso wrote:
<quoted text>
Religious people are much less intelligent than I am.
I hope you won't mind if I point out that that is your opinion? It is not obviously very widely shared even by fellow atheists.
thinkso wrote:
<quoted text>
I have spoken to hundreds of them.
They don't have a clue about anything.
Why should I tolerate these fools.
They all threaten me with burning for ever.
Many would kill me if they could get away with it.
Do you tolerate them like a xstian?
Love your enemies?
The nonsense spreads like a cancer amongst the dimwits.
No Christian has clue about anything? I was going to suggest that you seem to lack respect even for Nobel laureates, but you might be onto something there!...
http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/nobelistsgod...

I take your point but clearly you cannot see the one I make. One shouldn't tar all religionists with the same brush and atheists aren't 'better' than religionists. We differ over some important points - superstition being treated as facts; the rejection of evidence in favour of revelation; the rejection of reason in favour of acts of faith. Sometimes political differences are more important than these. It is important to be specific about differences.

The correct principle appears to me to be that it is fine to attack someone's beliefs or arguments, but not their person.

And we should love our enemies. After all, we made them!
:-)
stinky indian

Toronto, Canada

#12 Apr 14, 2012
ZombieBabyJesus wrote:
An end to religion would be nice but I suppose the kind of ppl that are religious would find another avenue for thier psychosis.
ZBJ
With the end of religion, there would be moral decay and a loss of good values...

Yes I know, you are probably thinking, terrorism, religious bigotry..., there is another side to all of this as well you know.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#13 Apr 14, 2012
stinky indian wrote:
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With the end of religion, there would be moral decay and a loss of good values...
Yes I know, you are probably thinking, terrorism, religious bigotry..., there is another side to all of this as well you know.
Atheists are NOT worse than religionists - as well you know.

And religion has nothing to do with morality.

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#14 Apr 14, 2012
stinky indian wrote:
<quoted text>
With the end of religion, there would be moral decay and a loss of good values...
Yes I know, you are probably thinking, terrorism, religious bigotry..., there is another side to all of this as well you know.
Why would there be "moral decay"?

ZBJ

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#15 Apr 14, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps not? The essence of religion is superstition and that has been largely discredited.
Witchcraft and other superstitions persist in Africa and (you are correct) there will always be some level of superstition in some people. However, religion could arguably be perceived as the last bastion of superstition for large populations. I think we are witnessing the final demise of mass superstition in Europe and most western countries. Unfortunatesly, the USA seems to be a follower, rather than a leader in this respect.
The Arab Spring is concerning as Islamic culture is flourishing - to an extent. The downside to that is bound to manifest itself in these freer societies and that too may moderate and decline in the face of education, scientific understanding and the forces of modernisation and globalisation.
We are living through a communications revolution and that is relevant too. When I was a boy, there were two TV channels and one or two hour's news per day. Now we have livefeed news, facebook and the Internet. Ideas and culture is instantly spread and appraised right across the Globe. Today's environment is hard for superstitions to survive.
Religion has one serious flaw - it makes no sense.
I just really meant that the haters would still hate. Their focus would just change.

ZBJ

Since: Aug 09

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#16 Apr 14, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Atheists are NOT worse than religionists - as well you know.
And religion has nothing to do with morality.
Morality is all about religion, each religion, faction or other ideology all have their different views of what morality is and how they approach them. There is a universal law of ethics which seems to govern intelligent life on this planet and is probably seem throughout the universe. Sadly the religious don't fit into any form of intelligence other than primitively insane.

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#17 Apr 14, 2012
Palawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Morality is all about religion, each religion, faction or other ideology all have their different views of what morality is and how they approach them. There is a universal law of ethics which seems to govern intelligent life on this planet and is probably seem throughout the universe. Sadly the religious don't fit into any form of intelligence other than primitively insane.
So you don't have a "moral code" that you live by?

Since: Apr 11

Roma, QLD

#18 Apr 14, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>So you don't have a "moral code" that you live by?
Being a good person, I don't think it takes a moral code, just naturally not wanting to hurt other people usually helps out a lot, if you need a moral code to keep you from hurting other people then you are an animal.

Since: Aug 09

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#19 Apr 14, 2012
nanoanomaly wrote:
<quoted text>So you don't have a "moral code" that you live by?
Why would I need a moral code, if you use rational logic you always approach life from an ethical standpoint, you have no other option. It's pure commonsense to look at all life and the environment as as important as you for survival. All religious nutters do is look at it to be exploited, abused, slaughtered and denigrated no logic or rationale in that idiotic approach. Add religious methodology to the equation and you have suppression, mayhem, chaos and conflict, historically the most common aspects of any religion or ideology. If if weren't that way, there would be peace and not abuse on the planet.

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#20 Apr 14, 2012
Australian Bigot wrote:
<quoted text>
Being a good person, I don't think it takes a moral code, just naturally not wanting to hurt other people usually helps out a lot, if you need a moral code to keep you from hurting other people then you are an animal.
If you need a moral code to live by, you are ideologist. Few animals randomly kill, or destroy the environment, nor do they enslave other life forms for their pleasure, greed and gluttony, ideologists do that.

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