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columbo agnostic
Joliet, IL
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Martha wrote: Jehovah's witnesses don't presume to talk for Almighty God Jehovah, but we do use the Bible to show God's view of the matter. God's word is the authority we accept and use to guide our lives. Former Jehovah's witnesses are alienated from God, just as this world is alienated from God. The only people who are loved by God, are those who are united in pure worship to him, thru Jesus Christ. UUMMMM "NOMI" dont you mean you use the nwt that was rewritten by the GB which makes you alienated from the world.And that show's the GB's view that you call god's view.Then the Gb's authority is what you accept.The GB guides you life and tell you its god that is guiding it. I understand now "NOMI" thanks for clearing that up. GOOD LUCK "NOMI"
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karen
Saint Louis, MO
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Martha wrote: Jehovah's witnesses don't presume to talk for Almighty God Jehovah, but we do use the Bible to show God's view of the matter. God's word is the authority we accept and use to guide our lives. Former Jehovah's witnesses are alienated from God, just as this world is alienated from God. The only people who are loved by God, are those who are united in pure worship to him, thru Jesus Christ. How can you say that when I feel Jehovah with me. I never left him, only the teachings of the GB. When someone tells me I have to believe what they tell me too, even if its wrong, I know something it wrong with that faith. You follow Jehovah and his Son Jesus to find the truth, not an organization. It is from Jehovah and Jesus you will gain salvation, not an organization. Those who are united in pure worship or those who believe the words of them in the bible, not the words of men. Read the bible and believe.
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columbo agnostic
Joliet, IL
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karen wrote: <quoted text> How can you say that when I feel Jehovah with me. I never left him, only the teachings of the GB. When someone tells me I have to believe what they tell me too, even if its wrong, I know something it wrong with that faith. You follow Jehovah and his Son Jesus to find the truth, not an organization. It is from Jehovah and Jesus you will gain salvation, not an organization. Those who are united in pure worship or those who believe the words of them in the bible, not the words of men. Read the bible and believe. Hey Karen, consider yourself lucky for getting out of that cult. Not many people have the nerve to leave when they see the wrong. "NOMI" will be in the wt's trap for life if she dont step back and look at the wt in a open minded view as your self.I think "NOMI" needs deep deprograming, Shes in to deep. GOOD LUCK.
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“Mystical Atheism for everyone!”
Since: Nov 08
Kelseyville California
ISP:
Clearlake, CA
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Martha said "I would like to say that people who post here are giving their opinions. The fact that I am a Jehovah's witnesses and posting here, is to set matters straight. I do not talk to apostates, they are free to post here too, and if what I post answers their criticism, that is not addressed to them, but to the person who wants to know the truth. If I have ever answered an apostate, it was not intentional, because they are being disciplined by Jehovah God, and are not allowed to talk to witnesses."
I am not addressing Martha, I am just pointing out the insanity of it all and expressing the saddness that is caused by seeing the the hate of so many who ignore the simple message of Jesus, "God is LOVE".
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karen
Saint Louis, MO
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Grandpasmurf952 wrote: "God is LOVE". Amen Grandpasmurf952, and I thank him for that.
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Pat
AOL
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Martha wrote: Jehovah's witnesses don't presume to talk for Almighty God Jehovah, but we do use the Bible to show God's view of the matter. God's word is the authority we accept and use to guide our lives. Former Jehovah's witnesses are alienated from God, just as this world is alienated from God. The only people who are loved by God, are those who are united in pure worship to him, thru Jesus Christ. Well I guess that leaves you out then as JW are not united with anyone except the WTS .Who are YOU to judge anothers heart and whether the are approved by God when YOU belong to a religion that trys to take the place of Christ ? YOU judge others not by God's standards but the WTS STANDARDS .
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JWForever
Charleston, WV
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columbo agnostic wrote: <quoted text> Hey Karen, consider yourself lucky for getting out of that cult. Not many people have the nerve to leave when they see the wrong. "NOMI" will be in the wt's trap for life if she dont step back and look at the wt in a open minded view as your self.I think "NOMI" needs deep deprograming, Shes in to deep. GOOD LUCK. Karen's not out, she's just hiding.
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“Get out of the cult!”
Since: Sep 09
New England USA
ISP:
Fryeburg, ME
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Martha wrote: Jehovah's witnesses don't presume to talk for Almighty God Jehovah, but we do use the Bible to show God's view of the matter. God's word is the authority we accept and use to guide our lives. Former Jehovah's witnesses are alienated from God, just as this world is alienated from God. The only people who are loved by God, are those who are united in pure worship to him, thru Jesus Christ. No, former JWs are aliented from listening to the lied of 12 men in NY city. A lot of exjws still believe and have a God belief. You cannot see the forest through the trees.
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columbo agnostic
Joliet, IL
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JWForever wrote: <quoted text> Karen's not out, she's just hiding. Well thats the first step. At least she's got the brains to question something that isnt right. I hope she makes it all the way out to a normal life free of the wt's grasp.
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“Nondenom. Christian”
Since: Oct 07
Hershey, PA
ISP:
Hershey, PA
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Martha wrote: Jehovah's witnesses don't presume to talk for Almighty God Jehovah ... That is completely false: Revelation—Its Grand Climax At Hand!, p. 246, par. 2 Likewise, as it serves under angelic direction today, the watchful John class has had revealed to it the understanding of the prophecy.“Do not interpretations belong to God?” Like faithful Joseph, we believe that they do.(Genesis 40:8; compare Daniel 2:29, 30.) God’s people are placed, as it were, center stage as Jehovah interprets to them the meaning of the vision and its impact on their lives.(Psalm 25:14) Right on time, he has opened up to their understanding the mystery of the woman and of the wild beast.—Psalm 32:8. Martha, since they clearly BELIEVE interpretations belong to God then EVERY TIME they teach an interpretation as truth they are claiming to be speaking for God. No way around it. They condemn themselves as none of God's when their "true" interpretations are proved false, which has happened OFTEN throughout their 130 year history. Interpretations BELONG to GOD, not to Jehovah's Witnesses. God never interpreted a SINGLE THING exclusively to Jehovah's Witnesses. So, please stop deceiving yourself and others by pretending that JWs don't speak for God, you speak for God every time you teach your religion's perverse human interpretations as truth. True interpretations of Bible prophecies can only come from ONE source and are never wrong. Any other source for interpretations of Bible prophecies is a false prophet who is guilty of divination. Ezekiel 13:8-9 — Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah has said:“For the reason that you men have spoken untruth and you have visioned a lie, therefore here I am against you,” is the utterance of the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.“And my hand has come to be against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie. In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on, and in the register of the house of Israel they will not be written, and to the soil of Israel they will not come; and you people will have to know that I am the Sovereign Lord Jehovah.” (See also Zechariah 10:2) According to the Bible, God is against your religion for the many untruths your religion has visioned and lies they have divined in the past. Like this one: http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/jehovahs-... And this one: http://www.topix.net/forum/religion/jehovahs-... Stop pretending your religion is better than it really is, Martha.
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“ESCAPE THE WTS CULT-NOW!”
Since: Aug 09
Oswego, NY
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No way around it. They condemn themselves as none of AuldSoul1 wrote: ###God's when their "true" interpretations are proved false, which has happened OFTEN throughout their 130 year history. Interpretations BELONG to GOD, not to Jehovah's Witnesses. God never interpreted a SINGLE THING exclusively to Jehovah's Witnesses.
So, please stop deceiving yourself and others by pretending that JWs don't speak for God, you speak for God every time you teach your religion's perverse human interpretations as truth.###
When we stop to realize that everything and everything that we were taught from the pages of the Watchtower "journals"....it was delivered TO us with the understanding that it was ALL "bible truths" and were always ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE that the WTS boasts of printing and teaching.
How many of these "bible truths" and their ACCURATE KNOWLEDGE have been proven to be wrong from the moment they left the presses?
It is really necessary to think about this....and what it means to you.
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columbo agnostic
Joliet, IL
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OH no!!! I hear crickets again. Now is Martha AKA "NOMI" gonna change her name again in descrace? UUUMMMMM
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Twanker
Rochester, NY
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Have they predicted the end of this thread?
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columbo agnostic
Joliet, IL
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Twanker wrote: Have they predicted the end of this thread? Yes, The people now living during the Obama term will not see death.Thus says the GB!!!!
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Since: Jul 09
Fort Saint John, Canada
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Real Yuni wrote: <quoted text> Wow,you are not a good person at all. I hope you don't do this to children either. stay off his doorstep is that really so hard to understand
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Since: Jul 09
Fort Saint John, Canada
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NEVADA_ROSE wrote: <quoted text> Put up a No Trespassing sign then. It's not rocket science. naa i dont think so when you invade my property you take your chances good luck now!
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Since: Jul 09
Fort Saint John, Canada
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Martha wrote: The only reason a witness would be calling on you every month is because you allow him to. If you don't want a witness ringing your doorbell, put a little sign under it, No J.W's. Thats pretty simple isn't it? Gripers and complainers about their pet peeves, should give that information to someone who cares. why should i be force to desecrate my door with a personal message to JW's? why dont I just pin the message on my dog and let him deliver it?
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Since: Jul 09
Fort Saint John, Canada
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eagleeye2 wrote: <quoted text> Many people are not like you at all and appreciate a loving, neighborly call and a pleasant conversation about the Bible. Actually, if you build a path to your door, you are implying that people are invited to come up the path and call on you. If that is not what you want, legally, you should put up a very obvious "No Trespassing" sign at the edge of your property (not at the door). That would keep you from having to run and hide when you see us coming. when i see you cumin babe, I ain't goin ta hide wait till ya see it
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NEVADA ROSE
Elko, NV
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karl44 wrote: <quoted text> naa i dont think so when you invade my property you take your chances good luck now! I mean....,what business would you have living on earth with peaceful humans who love life......,and love their Creator. P.S........,I bet you feed you poor dog gun powder also.
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JWForever
Charleston, WV
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NEVADA ROSE wrote: <quoted text> I mean....,what business would you have living on earth with peaceful humans who love life......,and love their Creator. P.S........,I bet you feed you poor dog gun powder also. I don't even do that to baptist who come to my door.
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