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Sep 30, 2007

Charming: Islam and Rape

“Clear her name"? "If a person is innocent”

In certain Islamic countries, victims of rape are considered "unclean" to potential future husbands. via ThePolitic

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Boomer

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Sep 30, 2007
 
This is the way Muslims handle women.
Proud Muslim

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Sep 30, 2007
 
Apparently so do Christians...

"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
passerby

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Sep 30, 2007
 
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Apparently one of those countries is Canada:

Ottawa’s Muslim community yesterday supported the woman’s decision to clear her name.

“Who are we to judge somebody else, especially if a person is innocent?” asked Mumtaz Akhtar, president of the Ottawa Muslim Association.

“Clear her name”?“If a person is innocent” of being raped???

Frigging crazy Islam.

A women is raped and she is now an outcast from Islam.

In a way that is a good thing if she still has some critical thinking skills and self esteem left after her indoctrination to Islam.

Wake up It's the the women's fault she was raped!!!!!!!!!
passerby

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Sep 30, 2007
 
Wake up It's the the women's fault she was raped!!!!!!!!!

Should be

Wake up It's NOT the women's fault she was raped!!!!!!!!!

that poster proud muslim is brain dead. He is trying to defend rape!!!!!!!!!!

Templar

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Sep 30, 2007
 
Proud Muslim wrote:
Apparently so do Christians...
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
You brought a proof that in the Bible rape always was a crime, in contrast to islam that condone rape of women. mohamid himself raped many women. And we see his nuts followers doing the same. We see muslims raping non-muslim women in islamic countries and now we see muslims raping women in non-muslim world.
Ariel

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Sep 30, 2007
 
The nut followers go crazy whn they see a women whether she is convered or not covered.They have an art of calling the women sister and then later have a go at her.Under the influence of alchol this is evn worse.To prove a women is raped according to the sharia law there has to be 4 male muslim witnesses and this is difficult thing to prove.Rape is not committed in public to get 4 witnesses.In other words this is encouraged and sanctioned.
najm

London, Canada

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Oct 1, 2007
 
thats funny....women are raped by the millions in america each year.... and thats just norm...
children are raped in america..and not just by priest...by the millions each year...
u wanna judge a culture by what stupid dumb people do...
and jackass said they paid a penelty..what...paying $50 to the father ...and then marry the young women so he can rape her for the rest of his life..
in islam...they cut your f*cken dick off if your convicted of rape..
which makes me wonder if you guys are ex muslim rapers....cause u all seem dickless to me....
Jeff

Seattle, WA

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Oct 1, 2007
 
Templar wrote:
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You brought a proof that in the Bible rape always was a crime, in contrast to islam that condone rape of women. mohamid himself raped many women. And we see his nuts followers doing the same. We see muslims raping non-muslim women in islamic countries and now we see muslims raping women in non-muslim world.
Muslim women should marry a christian man. Chist said to love your wife like christ loved the church, they are human beings, not beasts. Sex is much better when you please her, then they want it too. Muslims men are morons. How dare they treat 50% of the human race like slaves. They are not men, they are morons.
The End of Days

Orlando, FL

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Oct 1, 2007
 
Muslims Hate Women.

Muslims Hate everyone.

Freedom is only for Muslim Men.

Deport all Muslims from US.

Crusade , anyone ?
Templar

Chisinau, Moldova

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Oct 1, 2007
 
najm wrote:
thats funny....women are raped by the millions in america each year.... and thats just norm...
children are raped in america..and not just by priest...by the millions each year...
u wanna judge a culture by what stupid dumb people do...
and jackass said they paid a penelty..what...paying $50 to the father ...and then marry the young women so he can rape her for the rest of his life..
in islam...they cut your f*cken dick off if your convicted of rape..
which makes me wonder if you guys are ex muslim rapers....cause u all seem dickless to me....
PRESS RELEASE
Maria Sliwa
Freedom Now World News

Widespread Gang-Rape of Boy Slaves by Arab Masters
Sudan, July 15, 2002: During a recent fact finding trip to Southern Sudan, Freedom Now World News discovered overwhelming evidence that young black, boy slaves are repeatedly gang-raped by their Arab masters. While previous reports on slavery have focused mainly on the gang-rape of female slaves, sociologist and investigative reporter Maria Sliwa received testimony from numerous boy victims of rape.
"This type of sex is very strange to us," said recently redeemed slave Deng Deng. "Many times during rape boys would cry so loudly that the Arabs would stuff rags in their mouths so they could not be heard. I witnessed this often. If you refuse [sex], sometimes they would shoot you." Deng Deng is a Christian who said that as a slave he was often beaten because he would not convert to Islam.
Another recently freed boy slave, Deng Ayuel testified: "I watched the Arabs rape my two sisters and I watched many slave boys being raped as well. They would often take a girl or boy and do whatever they wanted with them sexually. I too was raped many times by my master and his Arab friends."
Perhaps the most graphic account of male rape was given by the freed slave Aleek Mach Deng: "I watched my master Mohammed and four Murahaleen Arabs violently gang-rape a young Dinka slave boy. The boy was screaming and crying a lot. He was bleeding heavily, as he was raped repeatedly. I watched his stomach expand with air with each violent penetration. The boy kept screaming. I was very frightened, and knew I was likely next. Suddenly the boy's screams stopped as he went completely unconscious. My master took him to the hospital. I never saw him again."
Many of the redeemed slaves told Sliwa that in order to avoid rape, male slaves would try to escape but were hunted down like animals by their masters. The punishment for resisting rape is often severe beatings, death or limb amputation.
Sliwa noted that the knowledge of male slave rape is widespread and has come to the attention of community leaders in Southern Sudan. "Many of the freed male slaves come to the chiefs and tell us they were repeatedly raped by their Arab captors," said Nhial Chan Nhial, Paramount Chief of Akon. "This affects their minds badly. They are subject to fits of crying, mental problems and are often unable to marry later on in life." Yet, in the ongoing genocidal Sudanese civil war, most are helpless to do anything.
International law recognizes both slavery and rape in the context of armed conflict as crimes against humanity. The International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia has recently convicted Serbian soldiers for committing these offenses. Freedom Now World News is calling on the U.S. Government to investigate this aspect of the Government of Sudan's declared jihad against the Black Africans of Southern Sudan and press for the establishment of an International Criminal Tribunal for Sudan.
Templar

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Oct 1, 2007
 
najm wrote:
thats funny....women are raped by the millions in america each year.... and thats just norm...
children are raped in america..and not just by priest...by the millions each year...
u wanna judge a culture by what stupid dumb people do...
and jackass said they paid a penelty..what...paying $50 to the father ...and then marry the young women so he can rape her for the rest of his life..
in islam...they cut your f*cken dick off if your convicted of rape..
which makes me wonder if you guys are ex muslim rapers....cause u all seem dickless to me....
Pakistan's wall of silence on child abuse

Here there are hundreds of young boys at work in the grimy workshops and sleazy hotels on which the bus station's reputation is based. For this is a centre of child sexual abuse.

One boy told me that local hotels encouraged the trade: "The hotel-owners employ children who are used to attract customers. The customers are then told what kind of services are provided and that they can do what they want with the children. The hotels here are very well known for these services. And it's good money for us."

Their clients are men from all backgrounds - travelling from one part of the country to another - thus freed from the constraints of life at home in this conservative society. With girls mostly kept at home - they prey on these working boys who are extremely vulnerable to abuse.

Although at present there is little data on child sexual abuse in Pakistan, experts such as the clinical psychologist, Kamran Ahmad, believe it is widespread:

"There is a lot of repression of sexuality so what happens is that is shows up in unhealthy forms. You rarely find healthy expressions of sexuality in everyday life so sexual abuse becomes very common"

For the victims it is a terrifying ordeal. A boy told us how he had been raped when he was just 7 years old. He said the men in his village were like dogs -'they would eat you like a dog' he said.'It was not safe for any young fair-skinned boy to go out alone. It was a tradition to molest boys'.

According to the report many people in Frontier Province are also well aware that men in the area keep boys specifically for sex.
Templar

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Oct 1, 2007
 
A Pakistani minister has revealed hundreds of cases of alleged child sex abuse at Islamic schools, or madrassas.

There were 500 complaints this year of abuse allegedly committed by clerics, Aamer Liaquat Hussain, a minister in the religious affairs department, said.

That compares with 2,000 last year, but as yet there have been no successful prosecutions, Mr Hussain told the BBC.

The minister's revelations have sparked death threats and infuriated some religious political leaders.

Mr Hussain said he had received death threats from clerics, but that he had done his job and his conscience was clear.

Leaders angered

The time had come for his country to face the bitter truth - the sickness of child abuse, he said.

The allegations involving Pakistan's Sunni majority and Shia minority referred to a tiny proportion of the country's 10,000 or so madrassas, he said.

He added that the body responsible for them, the Federation of Madrassas, was willing to co-operate with investigations because some clerics were bringing a bad name to Islam.

However, the revelations have angered some Islamic leaders. At a parliamentary meeting this week, some demanded he apologise.

The abuse revelations were made during a week in which the Pakistani government has been meeting religious leaders to build awareness of the spread of HIV/Aids.

Pakistan is stepping up its anti-Aids campaign, and the idea is to utilise the clerics' unique reach into communities to increase HIV/Aids awareness and to preach prevention.
Templar

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Oct 1, 2007
 
najm wrote:
thats funny....women are raped by the millions in america each year.... and thats just norm...
children are raped in america..and not just by priest...by the millions each year...
u wanna judge a culture by what stupid dumb people do...
and jackass said they paid a penelty..what...paying $50 to the father ...and then marry the young women so he can rape her for the rest of his life..
in islam...they cut your f*cken dick off if your convicted of rape..
which makes me wonder if you guys are ex muslim rapers....cause u all seem dickless to me....
Hey prick, how many penises were cut off in the above cases?
How happens that most of the rapes committed in Europe, are committed by muslims males?
How happens that muslim clerics condone rape of uncovered women?
Grace

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Oct 1, 2007
 
My husband and I had a conversation recently after Ahmadinejad claimed to have no homosexuals in Iran. He said that (specifically in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Dubai) that Muslim men VERY OFTEN have sex with young men/boys.

In every country/culture there are people that are deranged and sinful that do these kinds of things, my question is this: Why is it so prevalent in Muslim countries?
passerby

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Oct 1, 2007
 
Grace wrote:
My husband and I had a conversation recently after Ahmadinejad claimed to have no homosexuals in Iran. He said that (specifically in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Dubai) that Muslim men VERY OFTEN have sex with young men/boys.
In every country/culture there are people that are deranged and sinful that do these kinds of things, my question is this: Why is it so prevalent in Muslim countries?
Easy answer

The only women most muslims interact with are family, the rest are just ghosts in sacks

So who's left?
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Oct 1, 2007
 
Islamic countries most have more homosexual, bestiality, and incest than normal open states.
Think of what must happen in prison
anonymous girl

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Oct 1, 2007
 
najm wrote:
thats funny....women are raped by the millions in america each year.... and thats just norm...
children are raped in america..and not just by priest...by the millions each year...
u wanna judge a culture by what stupid dumb people do...
and jackass said they paid a penelty..what...paying $50 to the father ...and then marry the young women so he can rape her for the rest of his life..
in islam...they cut your f*cken dick off if your convicted of rape..
which makes me wonder if you guys are ex muslim rapers....cause u all seem dickless to me....
Do you know what has happened to the priests who are accused of abuse? Do you know what happens to child abusers in prison? Do you know our legal system makes sure that the rapist is tried, not the victim? Do you know that women do not need to have 4 witnesses in this country when there is a rape? Makes me wonder if muslims are dickless f**king wonders.
anonymous girl

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Oct 2, 2007
 
JESUS IS wrote:
THERE WAS A RECENT CASE HERE IN AUSTRALIA WHERE A CHRISTIAN WOMAN WAS RAPED BY A GROUP OF MUSLIM MALES AND THE JUDGE GAVE THEM A LENGTHY PRISON TERM.
THE CHEIF MUSLIM SHEIK OF AUSTRALIA SAID THE PENALTY WAS TOO HARSH AND CALLED AUSTRALIAN WOMEN "CAT'S MEAT SITTING OUT IN THE SUN" AND THE MEN WERE "STRAY CATS", SO IT WASN'T THEIR FAULT. HE SAID IT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED IF THE GIRL WAS SITTING AT HOME IN HER HABBIB (thing).
AUSSIES WERE OUTRAGED AT THE COMMENTS, AND THE MUSLIM-AUSSIES TOO FOR LESSENING THEIR ACCEPTANCE HERE, SO THE SHEIK WAS REPLACED.
YAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! YOU MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE HEARD ABOUT THE CASE!
Good I'm glad that those idiots got long snetences and that sheik needs to be deported.
Ariel

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Oct 2, 2007
 
Muslims hate infidels the most and came to the west to demonstrate this.
The End of Days wrote:
Muslims Hate Women.
Muslims Hate everyone.
Freedom is only for Muslim Men.
Deport all Muslims from US.
Crusade , anyone ?
Mr Giblets

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Oct 3, 2007
 
Proud Muslim wrote:
Apparently so do Christians...
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
sorry, but that was written for jews a long while before Jesus lived. Try again. Christians are not bound by ancient jewish tribal laws.
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