In America, atheists are still in the closet

Beatthesystem wrote:

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Just trying to get past the bigotry to the root of the issue..
I asked HK to have a dialogue without recourse to statistics and random statements.. and most of all without the contamination of bigotry, racism, and his feelings of anger/ hatred.
He cannot do it, so I give up.

Yes I use statistics to form logical basis.

You use feelings. For who knows what?

Apparently you think feelings are more logical than statistics.

That is a laugh!

You only support what I have seen time & time again.

That British people seem to be the most dumb people on the planet.

British people at the same time seem to be the most desperate, anal, OCD, control freak people on the planet too.

I simply use statistics to form factual basis.

Because you reply with feelings that have nothing to do with anything.

Then I reply with anger & hatred.

I actually completely capable of going with a debate with just facts & reason without insults or hate.

It is a bit difficult to do here. Because everyone here is emotional & irrational.

Mikko wrote:

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a christian told me that without god and jesus he would go out and murder steal ...

So what?

macumazahn wrote:

<quoted text>There are none. He doesn't even respect himself.

WAH WAHH WAHHHH! MOMMY Barefoot2626 keeps putting his foot up our asses!

water_nymph wrote:

He's going to give himself a stroke or heart attack.

My LDL's are lower than yours, Chubby!

Khatru wrote:

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Perhaps you'd better try exhibiting some different behavioural patterns first.

Perhaps you should change your bib.

PS: Names of scientists needed: one.

Khatru wrote:

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You? Win an argument?

One is larger than none.

Even in the UK.

Go back to playing with your toy soldiers.

Beatthesystem wrote:

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Just trying to get past the bigotry to the root of the issue..
I asked HK to have a dialogue without recourse to statistics and random statements.. and most of all without the contamination of bigotry, racism, and his feelings of anger/ hatred.
He cannot do it, so I give up.

Fair 'nuff.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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So what?

mean that christians have to be scared by threat of hell or they'll go mad

Khatru wrote:

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How far back do you want to go with this?
If not for us Brits, you'd be speaking French and eating snails.

As havnt forgotten advised me, don't take the bait, its only two people, because of all the countries in the world britain and America are the last that should be arguing, we're practically the same people

Mikko wrote:

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mean that christians have to be scared by threat of hell or they'll go mad

We have ascertained that you do not speak well enough for yourself that you are able to speak for swedes, Christians, or anyone else possessing a modicum of intelligence.

The overwhelming majority of the population of the entire world are theists yet it seems the world continues to move forward.

Maybe the only ones who are mad are people like you who apparently are hearing voices.

Mikko wrote:

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mean that christians have to be scared by threat of hell or they'll go mad

actually, some Christians have to be scared by the threat of hell, or they get mad! there was an article a few months ago about a minister in a megachurch. he had built it up from a small congregation. he decided he did not believe in hellfire and stopped preaching the threat of hell to his big congregation. it is now an evem smaller congregation than he started with. folks did not like losing the notion of hell - probably they wanted it for others they don't like or disagree with, and needed it to validate their phoney sense of superiority. as one of my acquaintaces says, "I'm saved. Are you saved?" I just wish once I would forget that I think his wife is a dear person, and would actually reply, "I hope to God I'm not - if that is the predictor of the company I would keep for too long a time."

straa wrote:

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As havnt forgotten advised me, don't take the bait, its only two people, because of all the countries in the world britain and America are the last that should be arguing, we're practically the same people

thank you for paying attention to my advice. there are many nice persons on here who would enjoy discussing many things with you, i am sure. no one has to waste time arguing with idiots. it might be a bit fun now and then to shoot off a little rocket at one of them, but it is not fun to get trapped in a treadmill with them.

Beatthesystem wrote:

Just trying to get past the bigotry to the root of the issue..

LULZ... good one.

He is the master of the root, after all.

barefoot2626 wrote:

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We have ascertained that you do not speak well enough for yourself that you are able to speak for swedes, Christians, or anyone else possessing a modicum of intelligence.
The overwhelming majority of the population of the entire world are theists yet it seems the world continues to move forward.
Maybe the only ones who are mad are people like you who apparently are hearing voices.

yes, we see how well the world has moved "forward" under the guidance of certain theists. the world needs to be turned over to agnostic athiest women. any other volunteers
?

barefoot2626 wrote:

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The essence of all your arguments:
-Skeptic- wrote:
All theists reject science.
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I.E: crapulence

just to be clear - Skeptic does not speak for me. Skeptic is a "hard" atheist. I am an agnostic atheist.
Skeptic uses obscene language. I object to it in most cases (the bono case being an exception - see recent USSC decision re Fox and FCC))

barefoot2626 wrote:

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We have ascertained that you do not speak well enough for yourself that you are able to speak for swedes, Christians, or anyone else possessing a modicum of intelligence.
The overwhelming majority of the population of the entire world are theists yet it seems the world continues to move forward.
Maybe the only ones who are mad are people like you who apparently are hearing voices.

ad hominem means that i win and you lose loser!

Sweden no church tax no state church

Mikko wrote:

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there's no hell

Convince me to be an atheist, give me a fork and have coffee with me... I'll show you hell.

Bringmedinner wrote:

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Convince me to be an atheist

I'm pretty sure no one wants you to be an atheist, or cares if you are an atheist, or if you understand and decide you are an atheist.

Bringmedinner wrote:

give me a fork and have coffee with me... I'll show you hell.

Yeah, theism is hell.

We know that, but thanks for reiterating that detail.

havent forgotten wrote:

<quoted text> just to be clear - Skeptic does not speak for me. Skeptic is a "hard" atheist. I am an agnostic atheist.

Just to be clear: when I respond to "skeptic" and his aliases: I respond to "skeptic" and his aliases.

When you do not refute what "skeptic" and his aliases say, in this forum, it implies at leas tacit approval of what "skeptic" and his aliases have said.

Especially when you fall on his side of an argument.

"hard" atheist? I don't know what that means, I prefer to stick to English in this forum.

And there is no such thing as "agnostic atheist"- it is sort of the same thing as an "enlightened racist".

If you think there might be a god(s), then you are agnostic. If you believe there is a god(s): you are a theist. If you disbelieve there is a god(s) you are an atheist.

three columns.

Not 17.