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Dak-original
London, UK
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MUQ wrote: <quoted text> One incident is "Enough" to show, to how much depth you can go when you try your mind to it. My point is why, no one was "punished" for Anti Sikh Riots when BJP held the Power? Why they also defended those who were accused. Do not blame Zia ul Haq for Punjab problem..... he only lend his "support" to it when it started as any "benign" neighbor would do to its "frindly neighbors". Perhaps he could not forget what India did to "East Pakistan in 1970" But you would claim that "India's hands were al clean as Snow or even cleaner in the entire operation". If we go be severity of Anti Muslim riots in India after independence and compare it with Anti Sikh riots in Delhi, there will be no comparison at all. Why not start punishing those responsible for 1984 Anto Sikh riots nowm since many Sikhs that "revolted" after Golden Tample attack in June 1984 and arrested under TADA are still in Indian Jails without any trial and any charge. TADA gave way to POTA and both have gone from law books long back... But those arrested under TADA and POTA are still languising in Jails without any trial and there are hundreds and thosuands of such people. This is Indian Democracy and this is Indian Justice system....may be GWB the Great got the idea of GITMO prision after seeing the "effectiveness" of Indian justice system under TADA and POTA. Jihadist friend of the jihadist dictator Zia Ul Haq!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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a_to_z_ak wrote: <quoted text> #4 i had asked dok that because he is trying to introduce a new variable in an existing ideology/theology equation as 'REAl GOd'. so I used my right to question his assumptions :) Though dok tries to monopolize god/divinity(saying 'REAl GOd') he doesn't like other religions to monopolize :P so I tend to say, he is trying to preach a religion without knowing it himself. regards ak This idiot Oink fails to understand that "real GOD" is GOD but I used the term specifically to elucidate MUQ. However, MUQ has not turned out to be a GOD fearing man at all! He persists despite being put right and then it follows that if GOD punishes after our demises then MUQ's placein the dock is booked for sure.
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Dak
Europe
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Dak-original wrote: <quoted text> Then why muslims call GOD a "HE"? Islam was invented by a male! Madarchod,randi ke pille,first tell y u nt call ox your father when you call cow your mother
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Dak
Europe
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Dak-original wrote: <quoted text> Jihadist friend of the jihadist dictator Zia Ul Haq! Lagta hai zia ul haq ne teri randi maa ke chut ka dhakkan toda tha
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Dak-original
London, UK
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a_to_z_ak wrote: <quoted text> #4 i had asked dok that because he is trying to introduce a new variable in an existing ideology/theology equation as 'REAl GOd'. so I used my right to question his assumptions :) Though dok tries to monopolize god/divinity(saying 'REAl GOd') he doesn't like other religions to monopolize :P so I tend to say, he is trying to preach a religion without knowing it himself. regards ak Oink, I have stated that no religion has monopoly of GOD and all religions are nothing but invention of human minds. Oink finds it difficult to grasp that I have no religion but I do believe in GOD!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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Dak wrote: gujju bstard,where is ur turkey professor now,im surprise by the pleasant news oldy conveyed to us that whole turkey consume pork,chutiye ka dimagi haalat bigar rahe hain Fraud Cretin is upset!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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MUQ wrote: <quoted text> That is why we want you people to come to Islam and replace bad people like us. If you people become majority in Islam, we will go into the background. Why leave the "Best religion in the world" because of 'Worst people in the world" Why stick with Second Best or Third Best or Fourth Best religion.... don't you want to get best of the best of every thing, why make exception only for religion? That does not make sense according to me. Muslims are people and they include those who do not believe, those who are good pious lot, those who are jihadists, etc. The best muslims are ex-muslims and real pious lot, who take the best of Islam and ignore the worst. The worst ones are the ones who are jihadists leading ones. Dupes are the ones committing jihad at the sharper end. The fundamentalists ones want the best and worst of the faith to be observed. Islam needs reform. Average muslim individual is as human as any other and would want food, education and freedom of thought like any other if only they are able to do so.
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Dak-original
London, UK
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a_to_z_ak wrote: <quoted text> Muq Keep up the good work of dawaa. regards ak LOL!
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MUQ
Saudi Arabia
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Truth wrote: In India the law punishes the culprits and not BJP. It is wrong to say that BJP too protected the riotors of 1984. Indian judiciary needs reform. Its prosedures are very lengthy. Our laws need to be a bit stricter. We have some loop holes in our system. That is why many culprits evade the law. Even Kasab's proceedings are still going on. Afjal Guru has bcome a 'sarkari mehman'. Culprits of Bhopal gas tragedy are still at large. People responsibe for Boforce and fodder scams have still not been convicted.
We know that how much 'benign' neighbor Pakistan is. Pakistan has proved it time and again. Indians can forget the support that they got from 'angel hearted' Gen. Zia.
Bangladesh problem arised from ethnic and linguistic discrimination by west Pakistan. Only 5% soldiers belonged to Bangladesh. Shekh Muzib could not form the governoment even after winning the election. When Bangladeshis opposed west Pakistan under the leadership of Muzib, Pakistani governoment arrested him and gave a free hand to their army to deal with bangladeshishis. Many banglaladeshis were killed and many women were raped by Pakistani army. Millions of Bangaladeshis crossed the border and took shelter in India . India had to support them because situation was so alarming. Ans. If you say Anti Sikh riots in Delhi was a Congress ploy and not a Hindu Sikh riot, then why BJP did nothing when it held power in center for five full years? I know court system in India is slow, but they could have set up special courts (like they did for TADA and POTA) and punished those responsible for that riot. They only did 'Lip Service" to Sikhs showing that they only used it for political purposes. If you know the politics and "benign relationship" which "friends and neighbors had with each other". You would not say. I know Bangladesh problem rose over a time, but had India not intervened, would it be solve quickly as it was. India also has so many problems on border state, it is able to pull along since there is no "friendly" country to support these people. So let us talk about basics and just do not find arguments to support that "We are angels and others are agents of devil". What policy India has towards in neighbors has resulted in India not having any "single committed friends in any neighboring country" It needs some retro-inspection and not just blaming other nations. If you criticize Indian Govt, and its policies you do not become Anti National
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Dak-original
London, UK
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Dak wrote: <quoted text> Madarchod,khud k post ko reply kar raha ?ye bta teri biwi ki gand me kaun si tel malish kar 'modi ji' ko pesh karega? Filthy language by Fraud Cretin!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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MUQ wrote: <quoted text> If Islam is not the True religion, then either you do not know the meaning of True or the meaning of religion. You said your self that Islam seems to be the best religion.... and many critics have said that "Islam is the best religion,... but Muslims are worst people..." So many New Converts to Islam who accepted Islam after their study (and without seeing or meeting any Muslim) said that "Had I met our present day Muslims before accepting Islam, probably I would have not taken that step.." So what I said was said with conviction and not just a play of words. Do you mean to say that Muslims shall be in that pitiable state they are today, if they were following Principles of Quran and sayings of prophet? Never!! Quran and sayings of prophet propel humans from the lowest depths and place them on the highest pedestal of humanity. That is why my offer was genuine....just because Muslims are bad is no excuse for you to reject Islam the True and Universal religion for all humankind. Come and replace us and be our leaders. I do not know if in any other religion a newly convert could rise to any level as he or she can be in islam. How come Islam made use two existing established religions' claim some sort of continuity? Errors like the tale of creation was used and MUQ then dares to talk about "true religion". Take the best and throw the lies out!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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Dak wrote: <quoted text> Madarchod,randi ke pille,first tell y u nt call ox your father when you call cow your mother Fraud Cretin's comment is not applicable to Real DAk! LOL!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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Dak wrote: <quoted text> Lagta hai zia ul haq ne teri randi maa ke chut ka dhakkan toda tha Foul minded youth Fraud Cretin is not fit to believe in GOd, let alone human created religions. Evil one!
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Dak-original
London, UK
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MUQ wrote: <quoted text> Ans. If you say Anti Sikh riots in Delhi was a Congress ploy and not a Hindu Sikh riot, then why BJP did nothing when it held power in center for five full years? I know court system in India is slow, but they could have set up special courts (like they did for TADA and POTA) and punished those responsible for that riot. They only did 'Lip Service" to Sikhs showing that they only used it for political purposes. If you know the politics and "benign relationship" which "friends and neighbors had with each other". You would not say. I know Bangladesh problem rose over a time, but had India not intervened, would it be solve quickly as it was. India also has so many problems on border state, it is able to pull along since there is no "friendly" country to support these people. So let us talk about basics and just do not find arguments to support that "We are angels and others are agents of devil". What policy India has towards in neighbors has resulted in India not having any "single committed friends in any neighboring country" It needs some retro-inspection and not just blaming other nations. If you criticize Indian Govt, and its policies you do not become Anti National Criticsing policy is one thing but your posts show you up as an agent of Wahabi jihadism at any cost to India and its people. I wonder if people like Shabana Azmi fear the lot like you! You are fit to live S Arabia only!
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MUSLIM-DEBATER
Mumbai, India
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Dak-original wrote: <quoted text> It is the same Fraud Cretin who has been doing the same to my ID! He has no response to your posts and hence resorts to such tactics to save his false pride. haji kaji, eate you so as to: increase myself out of poverty through you, or to seek companionship through you after being lonely, or to seek your help on matter in which I was inefficient, or for the sake of a benefit or for warding off harms. But i created you so you can worship me constantly and thank me a lot, and praise me day and night. Were the first you of and the last of you: those of who are living and those of you who are dead, your youngsters and your elders, your slaves your masters, the human among you and the jinn among you, to join hand in hand, in order to obey me, you would not be adding an atom to my kingdom. Were the first you of and the last of you: those of who are living and those of you who are dead, your youngsters and your elders, your slaves your masters, the human among you and the jinn among you, to join hand in hand, in order to disobey me, you would not reduce an atom in my kingdom. "Thus everything is perishable but he" (28:88). If you fear of hell fire like you fear poverty, I would have made you wealthy to such an extent that nobody would have been able to count your wealth. If you desire of heaven as you desire this world, i would have showered my blessings upon you in this world and hereafter. Don’t make your heart dead out of love for this world. Indeed, this world is going to bring an end to you very soon. The one who struggles (in the path of Allah (jihad) is struggling for his own soul. Indeed, Allah is self sufficient above any need of the worlds (3:97). Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! I did not create you aimlessly, nor did I create you in vain. I am not heedless of your actions. Indeed you will not get what I posses but with being patient on those things which you don’t like (but you still do) in order to seek my pleasure. Patience in my obedience is easier for you than patience in fire of hell. Punishment in this world is easier for you than punishment in the hereafter. O, son of Adam! all of you are lost except the one whom I guide. All of you are sick except the one whom I cure. All of you are going to be destroyed except the one whom I save. All of you are sinful except the one whom I protect. Thus seek pardon from me so that I can be merciful to you. Don not try hard to hang up curtains in order to hide from the one from whom your secrets are not hidden. HE ALLAH KNOWS EVERYTHING WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN HERE' READ MORE Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! do not curse my creatures, because the curse will bounce back to you. O, son of Adam! my heavens are suspended in space by one of my names, without any pillars. Your hearts are not going to be straightened except by my admonitions from my book. O, you people, stone does not dissolve in water; in the same way admonitions won’t change your cruel heart. O, son of Adam, why are you not protecting yourself from evil deeds? Why are you not protecting yourself from sins? Aren’t you afraid of hell? Why aren’t you protecting yourself from the wrath of Allah ? If it were not for ruku’(the kneeling) of elders(in prayers), suckling babies, grazing animals, humble youths, indeed I would have made the sky of steel, the earth of copper and the mud of pebbles. I would not have send a single drop of water from the sky nor grown a single grain from the earth. I would have poured on you my worst wrath. YOU CURSE AND HATE HIS CREATURES/ YOU MONKEY
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MUSLIM-DEBATER
Mumbai, India
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HAJI KAJI,
Almighty Allah says: Allah bears witness that indeed, there is no god but He. The angels and those who posses knowledge are maintaining (his creation) with justice. There is no god but He, the mighty, the wise.
Indeed, the true religion with Allah is Islam (3:19). Give good news of jannat (heaven) to the benevolent people. And warn all sinful and ruined people that they are the losers.
The one, who knows Allah and obeys His orders, has attained salvation. the one, who knows satan and disobeys him, he is safe. The one, who knows the truth and follows it, is safe. The one, who knows falsehood and keeps away from it, has succeeded. The one, who knows this world and discards it, has purified himself. The one, who knows akhirat (hereafter) and seeks it, has achieved it.
Indeed, Allah guides whoever He wishes and towards Him is your return.
O, son of Adam! if almighty Allah has taken the responsibility of providing your sustenance then why are you struggling for it (in an unlawful manner)? And if it is true that all creatures are mine, why are you cruel towards them? And if you know that iblis (satan) is an enemy of mine, then why are you careless? If the account on the day of judgement and passing the sirat (bridge to paradise) is true, then why do you collect wealth? And if recieving the rewards of almighty Allah in heaven is true, then why are you relaxing? And if all fortunes and misfortunes are from me, then why are you impatient? So you should not be disappointed when you lose something and you should not be so happy when you gain something from this world.
Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! How can you disobey me, when you cannot even resist the hot sun of the desert.
And indeed, for hell, there are seven levels in which there are fires which devour each other. In each level of hell, there are seventy thousand valleys of fire. In each valley of fire, there are seventy thousand sections of fire. In each section of fire, there are seventy thousand cities of fire. In each city of fire, there are seventy thousand castles of fire. In each castle of fire, there are seventy thousand houses of fire. In each house of fire, there are seventy thousand rooms of fire. In each room of fire, there are seventy thousand wells of firs. In each well of fire, there are seventy thousand chests of fire. In each chest of fire, seventy thousand trees of zaqqum (a bitter and pungent tree sicribed as growing at the bottom of hell. Under each tree of zaqqum, there are seventy thousand nails of fire. With each nail, there are seventy thousand chains of fire. And in each chain, there are seventy thousand serpents of fire. And the length of each serpent is seventy thousand yards. And in the stomach of each serpent there is an ocean of black poison, in which there are seventy thousand scorpion of fire. And in each scorpion has seventy thousand tails of fire. And the length of each tail is seventy thousand vertebras(each segment of backbone). And in each vertebra there are seventy thousand ratls (each ratl=449.28 gramme) of red poison.
I swear by self,“by mount Sinai, and by the written book, by an outstretched fine parchment, by the house (ka’ba) that is visited, by the elevated canopy, by the swollen sea; O, son of Adam! I have not created this hell fire but for all the unbelievers, and the for the miser, and for the gossiper, and for a’aq(disinherited by the father) from father, and for the preventer of zakat (alms), and for the eater of riba (interest), and for the zani (adulterer), and for the collector of haram (unlawful), and for the one who forgive’s the qur’an, and for the bad neighbor. Except those who do repentance (tawba), and acts upon good.
O, my servants! have mercy upon your selves! indeed your bodies are weak, and the way is far, and the burden is heavy, and the path is thin, and the fire is high, and the caller is israfeel, and the judge is the lord of the universe.
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MUSLIM-DEBATER
Mumbai, India
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Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! Your death is laughing at your desires. My decree is laughing at your death. My destiny(taqdeer) is laughing at your plans(tadbeer). My hereafter is laughing at you world. My fortune is laughing at your greed.
Indeed, your sustenance are known and measured, written and treasured. Therefore, rush towards death with your good deeds before death overtakes you, because nobody is going to eat up (your sustenance).
We have distribute among them their livelihood in the life of this world. And we have exalted some of them above others in degrees, that some of them may take others in subjection; and the mercy of your lord is better than what they amass(43:42).
O, son of Adam! Death is going to befall upon you even if you dislike it. Have patience on your lord’s commands, because your are indeed going to be raised. Then declare the glory of your lord and praise Him while you are awake at night and declare glory of Him at the time when the stars disappear.
Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! You devise plans and i devise plans, but nothing happens except what I plan. The one, who tries to reach Me, knows Me. The one, who knows Me, wants Me. The one, who wants Me, seeks Me. The one, who seeks Me, finds Me. The one, who finds Me, serves Me. The one, who serves Me, remembers Me. The one, who remembers Me, i remember him with My mercy.
O, son of Adam! your deeds are not going to be purified unless you taste four kinds of death: red death, yellow death, black death, white death. Red death is tolerance of calamities and abstaining from harming others. Yellow death is hunger and hardships. Black death is to disobey the desires of your ego. Therefore, do not obey your evil desires, otherwise they will take you away from the path of Allah . White death is seeking to be hermit (uzlat).
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MUSLIM-DEBATER
Mumbai, India
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HAJI KAJI
Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! My angels are watching you night and day so that they may write against you what you say and do, be it little or much. My heavens bear witness to everything you see. The earth bears witness for every action of yours that you’ve done on it. The sun and the moon and the stars are being witness against you, for whatever you say and do.
Whatever is hidden in your heart, i know it very well. Don’t be negligent about yourself. Indeed, you will be caught in the claws of death. After a very short period of time, you will be marching (towards death). Whatever good or bad deeds you have brought forward, they will be there without any addition or subtraction. You shall be paid back for everything that you’ve done.
O, son of Adam! The lawful never comes to you but little by little, and the unlawful comes towards you like a flood. One who has cleansed his passions has cleansed his “deen”(way of life).
FEAR GOD
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MUSLIM-DEBATER
Mumbai, India
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O, son of Adam! Beware of the curse from the oppressed! Because nothing can prevent it from reaching Me. If I did not love to forgive, I would not have tested Adam and then sent him back to heaven.
HAJI KAJI
ILL CURSE U NOW
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MUSLIM-DEBATER
Mumbai, India
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HAJI KAJI Almighty Allah says: O, son of Adam! Behave with the people in good manners and I will love you. I will put your love in the hearts of pious people; and I will forgive your sins.
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