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chris

Kifisiá, Greece

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Sep 29, 2011
 
Woot wooot wrote:
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fool we will sweep our azzes with your c u n t r y.. delusional rat.. having no fight with a real army.. only egypt and syria.. those desert tribes.. these jooish rats are far into deliruim..
we deliver what we promise sweetie.. sooner or later.. te heee
it would be good you stop making a spectacle of yourself with your langauge,whether you like it or not,the only super power in the med
is israel.may there not be war,there will be hundreds of thousands killed,have you no decentsy..
Turkey on Decline

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Sep 29, 2011
 

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Everybody in Turkey knows very well that Israel is 10x stronger than them.

Turkey longs for Ottomon empire. This is the face of islam nations. They wish to be seen as leaders in "so called" war aginst all things that treaten. There are few willing to Act. Just as glory is not forgotten so are mistakes. Yes Turkey should be observed closely. But real enemy to Israel is with in her boarders. do not loose sight of this.

The real reason for the conflict between Israel and Turkey is not the ship where 9 Turkish terrorists were killed. It's turkey who sent the terrorits, and the UN legalized the blockage on Gaza.

The real reasons are mainly two. First, after Turkey didn't enter the EU, it turned its face toward the Arab world especially those on the mediterranean sea (Syria, Lebanon, Palestine, Egypt, Lybia, and Tunissa). This move toward the arab world requires that Turkey takes a stand against Israel to gain the Arabs, especially when Turkey used to be an ally with Israel. So, I take it serious that the alliance has stopped between the two countries.

The second main reason is the discoveries of gas in the sea between Israel, Greece and Cyprus. This is a treasure for all of these 3 countries, and more than that it would cause a great decline of the Turkish economy. Europe would then take the gas from Israel, Grece and Cyprus through Cyprus and Greece(because they are in EU). That's why you see Turkey trying to say "I'm here in the mediterranean".

But I dont see anyone around to let Turkey steal one more time from others.
voice of peace

Tel Aviv, Israel

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#407
Sep 29, 2011
 
Clayton Rockwell wrote:
It would be foolish for Turkey to send warships to Israel.
Just like it would be foolish for Iran to send warships to the US.
The consequences in both cases will be severe.
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It's taking Erdogan too long ....
This threat is dated Sept 12.
It's been 17 days since .... and NADA, I don't see any Turkish ships on the eastern basin.

I promisse I will keep checking every day (I can see the Med from my living room).. and in case I see some Turkish military vessels ... I'll shoot at them the first rounds our of my two barrell shot gun and in parallel I'll sound the alarm ....

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voice of peace

Tel Aviv, Israel

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Sep 29, 2011
 
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Ohhh, Clay ... I doubt Erdogan's warriors can sail a boat a thousand miles out of the Turkish Riviera... and in order to get to the US East Coast ... it takes many moons of sailing ....

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Sep 29, 2011
 
The case against Caiaphas
Introduction

No trial or execution in history has had such a momentous outcome as that of Jesus in Roman-occupied Jerusalem, 2000 years ago.

But was it an execution or a judicial murder; and who was responsible?

The story begins when the Galilean rebel Jesus rides into Jerusalem on a donkey, deliberately fulfilling a prophecy in the Hebrew Bible about the coming of the Messiah. He's mobbed by an adoring crowd.

The next day Jesus raids the Temple, the heart of the Jewish religion, and attacks money-changers for defiling a holy place.

The leaders of the Jewish establishment realise that he threatens their power, and so do the Romans, who fear that Jesus has the charisma to lead a guerrilla uprising against Imperial Rome.

Jesus is arrested in the Garden of Gethsemane, tried by Caiaphas and then by the Roman Governor. He's sentenced to death and executed.
Caiaphas
Caiaphas Caiaphas had a privileged position

Caiaphas was a supreme political operator and one of the most influential men in Jerusalem. He'd already survived 18 years as High Priest of the Temple (most High Priests only lasted 4), and had built a strong alliance with the occupying Roman power.

Caiaphas knew everybody who mattered. He was the de-facto ruler of the worldwide Jewish community at that time, and he planned to keep it that way.

The case against Caiaphas is that he arrested Jesus, tried him in a kangaroo court and convicted him on a religious charge that carried the death penalty.
What were Caiaphas' motives?

Jesus threatened Caiaphas's authority. Caiaphas could not afford to allow any upstart preacher to get away with challenging his authority; especially not at Passover time. This was the biggest Jewish festival and scholars estimate that around two and half million Jews would have been in Jerusalem to take part. Caiaphas did not want to lose face...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/chris...
Sentinel

Moncton, Canada

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Sep 29, 2011
 
voice of peace wrote:
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It's taking Erdogan too long ....
This threat is dated Sept 12.
It's been 17 days since .... and NADA, I don't see any Turkish ships on the eastern basin.
I promisse I will keep checking every day (I can see the Med from my living room).. and in case I see some Turkish military vessels ... I'll shoot at them the first rounds our of my two barrell shot gun and in parallel I'll sound the alarm ....
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It takes while you know. Coal fired ships are not as fast as newer ones....lol. Be careful of that high powered Turkish musket mounted on front.
Uzi

Jerusalem, Israel

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Sep 29, 2011
 
voice of peace wrote:
<quoted text>.
It's taking Erdogan too long ....
This threat is dated Sept 12.
It's been 17 days since .... and NADA, I don't see any Turkish ships on the eastern basin.
I promisse I will keep checking every day (I can see the Med from my living room).. and in case I see some Turkish military vessels ... I'll shoot at them the first rounds our of my two barrell shot gun and in parallel I'll sound the alarm ....
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Come on now!!!! lets have some fun , dont sink their ships the first day.
Woot wooot

Mugla, Turkey

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Sep 29, 2011
 
Jesus threatened Caiaphas' relationship with Rome

Caiaphas' power base was the Sanhedrin, the supreme council of Jews which controlled civil and religious law. It had 71 members, mostly chief priests, and Caiaphas presided over its deliberations.

It was hard work but it had big rewards - modern archaeologists have discovered that Caiaphas and his associates lived lives of luxury with large and lavishly decorated houses.

But, of course, the Sanhedrin only ruled because the Romans allowed them to and the way to keep the Romans happy was to maintain order in society. Caiaphas himself was a Roman appointment, so he needed to keep cosy with the governor, Pilate, if he wanted to stay in power and preserve his luxurious way of life.

So if Jesus was making trouble, he was making trouble for both Caiaphas and Pilate - and trouble for Pilate was still trouble for Caiaphas.

Jesus was undoubtedly a threat; the public liked him, indeed they may have been paying more attention to Jesus than to the priests, and the public were listening to his condemnation of what he saw as wrong in the religious establishment.
Jesus threatened the Temple's income

Jesus was also threatening a useful source of income for the Temple priests.

The Temple apparatus brought in huge revenues for simple matters like purification and the forgiveness of sins. Archaeologists have discovered 150 mikvehs around the Temple. Mikvehs are ritual baths which Jews use in order to purify themselves before any act of worship.

Jewish people could only enter the Temple if they were ritually pure and almost everyone arriving in Jerusalem for Passover was deemed ritually unclean. They had to use a mikveh before they could fulfil their religious obligations. The priests controlled the mikvehs and charged people to use them.

There were so many regulations requiring ritual purification that control of the mikvehs was a way of making money.

Jesus thought the whole thing was rubbish. He taught that the elaborate purity rituals were unnecessary - the Kingdom of God was available to everyone and they didn't have to go through these rituals or pay the money in order to get there.

Bad news for the Temple apparatchiks. A quick way to raise a revolt was to tell people that they were being ripped off. This could cause a riot in the Temple if it got out of hand.

But there was worse. Jesus stormed into the Temple and accused the moneychangers and sacrificial dove sellers of extortion and of turning the Temple into a den of thieves.

The ultimate challenge to any religious leaders: What you are doing is against God and God will destroy you and cleanse the whole religious apparatus. And God, as every Jew knew, had the power to do it - he'd demonstrated that many times before.

Jesus was doing this in the Temple, in front of the crowds and without any fear or respect for Caiaphas and his staff.

Caiaphas had to do something to show that he was still boss, and he had to do it quickly; Jesus was on a roll, and who knew what he was going to do next.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/chris...
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Uzi wrote:
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Come on now!!!! lets have some fun , dont sink their ships the first day.
there are mo women and children on board,so no fun for you jew
voice of peace

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woot coward wooot, I see you are running the Caiaphas 'add' everywhere and people don't give a sh1t about it...

Perhaps if you add to it what's your point .. you'll get some feedback ..

Good luck, pal

By the way, on these latitudes, your heroe was better known as Iosef bar Kayafa ...(thought you'd like to know)

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Sep 29, 2011
 
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Ardogan is Crazy
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Yeah, but u got to love him!
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GFP provides a unique analytical display of data covering global military powers with statistics compiled through various sources. All manner of countries are considered in the ranking, a spectrum helping to produce a near-complete comparison of relative military strengths from across the globe. The user should note that nuclear capability is not taken into account for the final ranking for this listing is purely a "numbers game" meant to spark debate and including nuclear weapons would clearly defeat its purpose. Therefore GFP comparisons are for consideration in a conventional war based solely on each individual nation's capabilities on land, at sea and through the air while including logistical and financial aspects when waging total war. Sources are stated whenever possible though some statistics are estimated if official numbers are not available.

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voice of peace wrote:
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It's taking Erdogan too long ....
This threat is dated Sept 12.
It's been 17 days since .... and NADA, I don't see any Turkish ships on the eastern basin.
I promisse I will keep checking every day (I can see the Med from my living room).. and in case I see some Turkish military vessels ... I'll shoot at them the first rounds our of my two barrell shot gun and in parallel I'll sound the alarm ....
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aren't the turks just the cutest little kitten murdering mongols? by the way please visit the "should the west boycott turkish products" thread

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