Pak started war with India in 1965, but achieved nothing: Durrani

Sep 14, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Karachi News.Net

Karachi News.Net Monday 14th September, 2009 Lahore, Sep 14 : The Indian Army crossed the international border to launch full-fledged war against Pakistan in 1965 because "low-level skirmishes were started from this side," said Pakistan's former National Security Adviser Mahmood Ali Durrani.

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Sep 15, 2009
 
he's singing like a canary....

The paki cat is finally out of the bag.
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Sep 15, 2009
 
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......

as most of Indian soldiers left food and armaments and took off to the relative safety of their homes..... Once again India begged UNSC to request Pakistan to withdrwa from the conquered land and India would resolve the Kashmir issue.... And as expected India did not honor its commitment because it a weeny thing that we all know.....

On 7 September a single Pakistan Air Force Pilot... Squadron Leader M.M. Alam... Sitara-i-Juraat.... in his F-86 Sabre shot down 5 Indian Air Force attacking Hunter aircraft in a single sortie.... an unbeaten world record ......

Pakistan captured 1217 sq/mile India area.... and India captured Pakistan 446 sq/mile area.....
Pakistan Killed 20,000 Indian soldiers and officers.... and 1,000 soldiers captured....
Pakistan destroy almost 516 Indian Tanks and captured 18 Tanks.....
Pakistan down 115 Indian fighter plan....
India destroy 35 Paki tank....
India down only 3 Pak air fighter plane....
and India faces the damage 1/10 comparison to Pakistan......

I just want to tell one thing here Indian 7,00000 soldier they can not control very small area of Kashmir so how they can fight with Pakistan they will dai all of them......

“truth always wins”

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Sep 15, 2009
 
Paki boy wrote:
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......
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what are you saying paki boy? pakistn had killed 3 crore indian soldiers ad destoried all indian tanks except 2 tanks. in 1965 you have even captured new delhi . you have forgotten your own victory .
GlobeSon

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Sep 15, 2009
 
history from poor madrassa (un)educated paki.... ;-)

enjoy the difference
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Sep 15, 2009
 
pakistan lost badly entire world knows lundaya
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Sep 15, 2009
 
bal t wrote:
pakistan lost badly entire world knows lundaya
Oyea mara lund ka tota bal thackery aa gya, chal ab jaldi say choopa laga meray lund ka, tujh ko meinay kai bar bola kay daily is site par aaya kar, salay magar tujhay bund marwanay say time hi nahi milta, gay bal thackery
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Sep 16, 2009
 
This National Security Adviser Mahmood Ali Durrani was the same guy who publicly accepted that Mumbai terrorists were all Pakis and that terrorist Kasab is a paki national who was trained by LeT/ISI.

For this confession he was sacked by the paki PM Gilani.
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Sep 16, 2009
 
Paki boy wrote:
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......
as most of Indian soldiers left food and armaments and took off to the relative safety of their homes..... Once again India begged UNSC to request Pakistan to withdrwa from the conquered land and India would resolve the Kashmir issue.... And as expected India did not honor its commitment because it a weeny thing that we all know.....
On 7 September a single Pakistan Air Force Pilot... Squadron Leader M.M. Alam... Sitara-i-Juraat.... in his F-86 Sabre shot down 5 Indian Air Force attacking Hunter aircraft in a single sortie.... an unbeaten world record ......
Pakistan captured 1217 sq/mile India area.... and India captured Pakistan 446 sq/mile area.....
Pakistan Killed 20,000 Indian soldiers and officers.... and 1,000 soldiers captured....
Pakistan destroy almost 516 Indian Tanks and captured 18 Tanks.....
Pakistan down 115 Indian fighter plan....
India destroy 35 Paki tank....
India down only 3 Pak air fighter plane....
and India faces the damage 1/10 comparison to Pakistan......
I just want to tell one thing here Indian 7,00000 soldier they can not control very small area of Kashmir so how they can fight with Pakistan they will dai all of them......
Just read some books and if not available in your madarsa then read wikipedia
*****Neutral assessments*******
There have been several neutral assessments of the losses incurred by both India and Pakistan during the war. Most of these assessments agree that India had a upper hand over Pakistan when ceasefire was declared. Some of the neutral assessments are mentioned below ó
* According to the United States Library of Congress Country Studies:
The war was militarily inconclusive; each side held prisoners and some territory belonging to the other. Losses were relatively heavy--on the Pakistani side, twenty aircraft, 200 tanks, and 3,800 troops. Pakistan's army had been able to withstand Indian pressure, but a continuation of the fighting would only have led to further losses and ultimate defeat for Pakistan. Most Pakistanis, schooled in the belief of their own martial prowess, refused to accept the possibility of their country's military defeat by "Hindu India" and were, instead, quick to blame their failure to attain their military aims on what they considered to be the ineptitude of Ayub Khan and his government.[46]
* TIME magazine reported that India held 690 mi2 of Pakistan territory while Pakistan held 250 mi2 of Indian territory in Kashmir and Rajasthan. Additionally, Pakistan had lost almost half its armour temporarily.[47] The same article stated that -
Severely mauled by the larger Indian armed forces, Pakistan could continue the fight only by teaming up with Red China and turning its back on the U.N.
* Devin T. Hagerty wrote in his book "South Asia in world politics"[48]-
The invading Indian forces outfought their Pakistani counterparts and halted their attack on the outskirts of Lahore, Pakistan's second-largest city. By the time United Nations intervened on September 22, Pakistan had suffered a clear defeat.
* In his book "National identity and geopolitical visions",[49] Gertjan Dijkink writes -
The superior Indian forces, however, won a decisive victory and the army could have even marched on into Pakistani territory had external pressure not forced both combatants to cease their war efforts.
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Paki boy wrote:
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......
as most of Indian soldiers left food and armaments and took off to the relative safety of their homes..... Once again India begged UNSC to request Pakistan to withdrwa from the conquered land and India would resolve the Kashmir issue.... And as expected India did not honor its commitment because it a weeny thing that we all know.....
On 7 September a single Pakistan Air Force Pilot... Squadron Leader M.M. Alam... Sitara-i-Juraat.... in his F-86 Sabre shot down 5 Indian Air Force attacking Hunter aircraft in a single sortie.... an unbeaten world record ......
Pakistan captured 1217 sq/mile India area.... and India captured Pakistan 446 sq/mile area.....
Pakistan Killed 20,000 Indian soldiers and officers.... and 1,000 soldiers captured....
Pakistan destroy almost 516 Indian Tanks and captured 18 Tanks.....
Pakistan down 115 Indian fighter plan....
India destroy 35 Paki tank....
India down only 3 Pak air fighter plane....
and India faces the damage 1/10 comparison to Pakistan......
I just want to tell one thing here Indian 7,00000 soldier they can not control very small area of Kashmir so how they can fight with Pakistan they will dai all of them......
* An excerpt from Stanley Wolpert's India,[50] summarizing the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965, is as follows:
In three weeks the second Indo-Pak War ended in what appeared to be a draw when the embargo placed by Washington on U.S. ammunition and replacements for both armies forced cessation of conflict before either side won a clear victory. India, however, was in a position to inflict grave damage to, if not capture, Pakistan's capital of the Punjab when the cease-fire was called, and controlled Kashmir's strategic Uri-Poonch bulge, much to Ayub's chagrin.
* In his book "War in the modern world since 1815", Jeremy Black mentions that "Pakistan gambled and lost heavily".[51] He also writes about India's missed military opportunities -
In fact, the army had used less than 15% of its ammunition compared to Pakistan, which had consumed closer to 80 percent and India had double the number of serviceable tanks.
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Sep 16, 2009
 
Paki boy wrote:
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......
* Dennis Kux's "India and the United States estranged democracies" also provides a summary of the war.[52]

Although both sides lost heavily in men and materiel, and neither gained a decisive military advantage, India had the better of the war. New Delhi achieved its basic goal of thwarting Pakistan's attempt to seize Kashmir by force. Pakistan gained nothing from a conflict which it had instigated.

* "A region in turmoil: South Asian conflicts since 1947" by Robert Johnson mentions[53]-

India's strategic aims were modest - it aimed to deny Pakistani Army victory, although it ended up in possession of 720 square miles of Pakistani territory for the loss of just 220 of its own.

* An excerpt from William M. Carpenter and David G. Wiencek's "Asian security handbook: terrorism and the new security environment"[54]-

A brief but furious 1965 war with India began with a covert Pakistani thrust across the Kashmiri cease-fire line and ended up with the city of Lahore threatened with encirclement by Indian Army. Another UN-sponsored cease-fire left borders unchanged, but Pakistan's vulnerability had again been exposed.

* English historian John Keay's "India: A History" provides a summary of the 1965 war[55]-

The 1965 Indo-Pak war lasted barely a month. Pakistan made gains in the Rajasthan desert but its main push against India's Jammu-Srinagar road link was repulsed and Indian tanks advanced to within a sight of Lahore. Both sides claimed victory but India had most to celebrate.

* Uk Heo and Shale Asher Horowitz write in their book "Conflict in Asia: Korea, China-Taiwan, and India-Pakistan"[56]-

Again India appeared, logistically at least, to be in a superior position but neither side was able to mobilize enough strength to gain a decisive victory.

* Newsweek magazine, however, praised the Pakistani military's ability to hold of the much larger Indian Army.[57]

"By just the end of the week, in fact, it was clear that the Pakistanis were more than holding their own."
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Sep 16, 2009
 
GlobeSon wrote:
This National Security Adviser Mahmood Ali Durrani was the same guy who publicly accepted that Mumbai terrorists were all Pakis and that terrorist Kasab is a paki national who was trained by LeT/ISI.
For this confession he was sacked by the paki PM Gilani.
Poor terrorists , you are so busy finding ,ways to make bomb then history. Read on internet

In 1965 we were on edge of Lahore, second biggest city in pakistan.

Neutral Claims

3,000 Indian soldiers, 3,800 Pakistani soldiers

India held 710 mi≤(1,1840 km≤) of Pakistani territory and Pakistan held 210 mi≤(545 km≤) of Indian territory

INDIAN CLAIM
1,500 mi2 (3,885 km2) of Pakistani territory

Pakistani claims[39
250 mi≤(648 km≤) of Indian territory
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Paki boy wrote:
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......
as most of Indian soldiers left food and armaments and took off to the relative safety of their homes..... Once again India begged UNSC to request Pakistan to withdrwa from the conquered land and India would resolve the Kashmir issue.... And as expected India did not honor its commitment because it a weeny thing that we all know.....
On 7 September a single Pakistan Air Force Pilot... Squadron Leader M.M. Alam... Sitara-i-Juraat.... in his F-86 Sabre shot down 5 Indian Air Force attacking Hunter aircraft in a single sortie.... an unbeaten world record ......
Pakistan captured 1217 sq/mile India area.... and India captured Pakistan 446 sq/mile area.....
Pakistan Killed 20,000 Indian soldiers and officers.... and 1,000 soldiers captured....
Pakistan destroy almost 516 Indian Tanks and captured 18 Tanks.....
Pakistan down 115 Indian fighter plan....
India destroy 35 Paki tank....
India down only 3 Pak air fighter plane....
and India faces the damage 1/10 comparison to Pakistan......
I just want to tell one thing here Indian 7,00000 soldier they can not control very small area of Kashmir so how they can fight with Pakistan they will dai all of them......

You Sir are a World Class Idiot! Your own former National Security Adviser Mahmood Ali Durrani is making that statement and not India! We Indians have been saying it all along and would like to repeat it: PAKISTAN HAS NEVER WON A WAR WITH INDIA! Thank you Mr. Durrani for your honesty.

JAI HIND!
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Sep 16, 2009
 
Soon Musharaff will admit defeat in Kargil.
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Sep 16, 2009
 
abay Gay Hinduo, Kya apni history bhool gay hoo tum
1948.
Pakistan nay tum Hinduo ki maa ko choda
1962.
China nay tum hinduo ki Kali maa ko choda
1965.
Pakistan nay tum Hinduo ki gand phar di aur tum hindu apni apni maa ki choot mein wapis bhaag gay
Kargil.
1000 Kashmiri freedom fighters nay 7,00000 Indian Gay army ki Gand mein Lula dal diya aur wo apni maa ko chuda kar bhaag gay.
hahahah
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Sep 16, 2009
 
Paki boy wrote:
1965: A glorious victory for Pakistan.......
as most of Indian soldiers left food and armaments and took off to the relative safety of their homes..... Once again India begged UNSC to request Pakistan to withdrwa from the conquered land and India would resolve the Kashmir issue.... And as expected India did not honor its commitment because it a weeny thing that we all know.....
On 7 September a single Pakistan Air Force Pilot... Squadron Leader M.M. Alam... Sitara-i-Juraat.... in his F-86 Sabre shot down 5 Indian Air Force attacking Hunter aircraft in a single sortie.... an unbeaten world record ......
Pakistan captured 1217 sq/mile India area.... and India captured Pakistan 446 sq/mile area.....
Pakistan Killed 20,000 Indian soldiers and officers.... and 1,000 soldiers captured....
Pakistan destroy almost 516 Indian Tanks and captured 18 Tanks.....
Pakistan down 115 Indian fighter plan....
India destroy 35 Paki tank....
India down only 3 Pak air fighter plane....
and India faces the damage 1/10 comparison to Pakistan......
I just want to tell one thing here Indian 7,00000 soldier they can not control very small area of Kashmir so how they can fight with Pakistan they will dai all of them......
Oh my god. Until now I was not aware that I was living on PoI (Pakistan Occupied India).
BTW when it happened? and How? Why I was not aware so far? I know saale Wikipedia bhi na sahi nahi bolta. Pata nahi kisne likh diya ki Pakistan lost all 4 wars against India. I know madersa's books are the holy and authentic as they are written by Muhammad.
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Sep 16, 2009
 
Company wrote:
abay Gay Hinduo, Kya apni history bhool gay hoo tum
1948.
Pakistan nay tum Hinduo ki maa ko choda
1962.
China nay tum hinduo ki Kali maa ko choda
1965.
Pakistan nay tum Hinduo ki gand phar di aur tum hindu apni apni maa ki choot mein wapis bhaag gay
Kargil.
1000 Kashmiri freedom fighters nay 7,00000 Indian Gay army ki Gand mein Lula dal diya aur wo apni maa ko chuda kar bhaag gay.
hahahah
Ek baat phir bhi samajh main nahi aayi ki tumne India ko itni baar defeat kiya lakin aaj bhi Kashmir bheek main hi maang rahe ho? BTW tum log paidaishi bhikhari ho ya bheek mangna tumhare khoon main hai?

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Inch-Ka-Allah wrote:
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Ek baat phir bhi samajh main nahi aayi ki tumne India ko itni baar defeat kiya lakin aaj bhi Kashmir bheek main hi maang rahe ho? BTW tum log paidaishi bhikhari ho ya bheek mangna tumhare khoon main hai?
no....no....no......
actually jinnah gifted kashmir to india. pakistanis are nations of superior people. they even can gift dollars to poors like usa. dont you know that world bank and imf was set up by pakistani fund?
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debasis behera wrote:
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no....no....no......
actually jinnah gifted kashmir to india. pakistanis are nations of superior people. they even can gift dollars to poors like usa. dont you know that world bank and imf was set up by pakistani fund?
Right If Pakistan didnít bailout USA and EU then they all were suffering shrinking economy in this recession.
Well Ek baat boloonga, I donít know you Pakistani are helping Pakistan in real or not by putting garbage in these forums but for sure you made it like Heera Mandi ki Aaisha Jaan. Jo bhi aata hai Pakistan ki kholta hai (without any intruption), thokta hai,$$ phekta hai aur nikal leta hai. Aur tum Hariyali dekh ker bade khush hote ho.
Abe raat ko to Randi bhi nakhre dikhati hai iska matlab yeh nhai hua ki who subhe bhi sar per chadegi.
Sita Rawan Rangraliya

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Sep 16, 2009
 
Hinduís Father RAM ra**pe 4 years old SEETA Maa, After when SEETA age was 6, then also RAWAN ra**pe her, and after ra**pe SEETA feel so good, she feel so enjoy coz RAM was not a complete man, he was HIJRA, RAM like to su**ck Rawan di**ck, both SEETA and RAM su**ck Rawan dick very sweetly, How amazing that SEETA was only 6 and she was ready to fu**ck.

Result:
At last we can say Sita Lulay Kheenchnay wali machine thi.
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debasis behera wrote:
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no....no....no......
actually jinnah gifted kashmir to india. pakistanis are nations of superior people. they even can gift dollars to poors like usa. dont you know that world bank and imf was set up by pakistani fund?
Agar 100 Gandhi Muslim League mein hotay aur sirf 1 Muhammad Ali Jinnah Congras mein hota, to Kabhi Hindustan Divide na hota.

Jinnah. A great leader, he is alive in our heart.

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