The fall of St. Paul City Church: Faith left them blessed. And broke.

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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you've jumped to conclusions and made unfair acusations about me because i talked of faith for healing.
i agree that we need wisdom & a balance on this issue. however, i'm convinced that the pendulum has swung WAY to the side of unbelief.
"will the Son of Man find faith on the earth when He returns?" Jesus

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto THY OWN understandings. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy path!

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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Trust in the Lord with all thine heart and lean not unto THY OWN (OR THY DR'S) understandings. In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy path!;)

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> What a true nut case you are. Now you are rewriting the bible. There will be a special place down under for you!

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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why the antagonism? if you're a 'believer' i'm just challenging you to believe/trust God, not yourself or this world's gods.....

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> Your problem is you have a real vendetta against Dr's. Next time your in a accident and are bleeding to death, I bet you call out for one.

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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i most certainly do use dr's when i need them.
i'm being challenged, however, to believe God & give Him room to heal before running to man first.
is that a bad thing?

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> If you really have faith in God, you would realize, that God is directing the actions, and thereby the results, of the Dr. your seeing.

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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if you really new God & His Word, you'd know that mankind has a propencity towards unbelief & idolatry ("leaning on the arm of the flesh") and it's a thing that displeases God & short-circuts faith for the miraculous.
".....having a form of godliness but denying the power thereof; from such turn away"
"without faith it is impossible to please God" Paul

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> Go in peace and I hope you do not endanger your children's life's with your beliefs. CNN and FOX carried a story just today, that the courts sentenced a husband and wife, who refused medical care for their child, and instead relied on faith healing. Now the child died and those folks are in jail

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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i understand that there are abuses to every situation under the sun.
btw - do you trust CNN & FOX news for your sorce of theology/what's right & wrong?
did you know that (at least) CNN is owned by ted turner? did you know that he hates God with a passion; so much so that he divorced his wife jane fonda because she became a born-again christian?

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> You can spin it any way you want, but the fact is , both networks reported what happened and showed the Mother and Father, who refused medical care for their child and relied on faith healing , prior to the child's death being jailed. Your assertion that I rely on either Fox or CNN for my theology, just shows what a troubled individual you are.!.

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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don't forget to get your flu shot! it's what 'THEY' say your supposed to do;)
hhhmmm.....i wonder if the germans were correct when listening to what 'THEY' were saying circa 1930-40's???

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text>now you are really off topic. I suggest you see a good Dr. who can prescribe some medication, that might help yo concentrate. Those seances you have been holding, have left you in a delusional trans.

NEW PC SPIN DR wrote:

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i'm not off topic. we've been discussing who/what to listen to for our 'health care' advise.
you obviously adhere to what 'they'(the so-called experts) say, and i'm pointing out how 'they' can be and have been monumentally & historically wrong.

NUTSTOU wrote:

<quoted text> Kinda like you!