GOP attacks Obama over Bush tax cuts

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>Which means that for the last 20 years Ron Paul libertarian has run as a Republican because libertarians are basically radical Right Wing Republicans.

Oh my, and here listening to you loons that was the tea party.........you have a new villian du jour I see.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Oh my, and here listening to you loons that was the tea party.........you have a new villian du jour I see.

I am just stating the facts. If libertarians are liberal why do they always side with the Conservatives?

swampmudd wrote:

Which means that for the last 20 years Ron Paul libertarian has run as a Republican because libertarians are basically radical Right Wing Republicans.

I don't know why Ron Paul became a Republican.

However, you are wrong in your claim that "libertarians are basically radical Right Wing Republicans."

In general, Republicans are conservative on fiscal issues and conservative on social issues.

In general, Libertarians are conservative on fiscal issues and liberal on social issues.

Libertarians and conservative Repbulicans may share common ground when it comes to fiscal issues, but they are often opposed to one another when it comes to social issues such as legalizing drugs and abortion.

Bone up sonny. It's best to listen and learn rather than opening your mouth and making an ass out of yourself.

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>I am just stating the facts. If libertarians are liberal why do they always side with the Conservatives?

They do NOT!!! Take the issue of drug prohibition for example: We libertarians side with the liberals on this one - we support the total legalisation of the drug trade!

George Katsaris, Athens, Greece. Progressive Liberal and Libertarian :-)

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>I am just stating the facts. If libertarians are liberal why do they always side with the Conservatives?

Both believe in the strict interpretation of the constitution.........and do not hold to the liberal belief that it is a living moving document.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Both believe in the strict interpretation of the constitution.........and do not hold to the liberal belief that it is a living moving document.

Why don't you and George discuss this and let me know when you can agree on whether Libertarians are Liberal or Conservative. If the Constitution is not a living document, it is only because the Repulicans have killed it.

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>Why don't you and George discuss this and let me know when you can agree on whether Libertarians are Liberal or Conservative. If the Constitution is not a living document, it is only because the Repulicans have killed it.

Is that why your boy has to lie, to attempt to fool the bots one more time.

OBAMA- WHY USE THE TRUTH WHEN A LIE WORKS……

• Fact Check: Obama running against outdated version of Ryan Medicare plan

• The Obama campaign would like voters to believe that Paul Ryan's Medicare plan would "end Medicare as we know it" -- privatizing the whole system and costing seniors more than $6,000 extra a year. But the campaign has effectively been running against the wrong Ryan plan.

• LIBERALS CAN’T PLAY ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>I am just stating the facts. If libertarians are liberal why do they always side with the Conservatives?

I don't see that they do...always....their ideology covers a big spectrum.....One of the funniest guys in the world, Doug Stanhope....is a libertarian....

swampmudd wrote:

<quoted text>Why don't you and George discuss this and let me know when you can agree on whether Libertarians are Liberal or Conservative. If the Constitution is not a living document, it is only because the Repulicans have killed it.

Libertarians are not Conservative - we libertarians want RADICAL CHANGE!!! And libertarians are NOT Pseudo-Liberals either - we want LIBERTY!!! What we REALLY are is Progressive and True Liberals!!!

George Katsaris, Athens, Greece :-)

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Is that why your boy has to lie, to attempt to fool the bots one more time.
OBAMA- WHY USE THE TRUTH WHEN A LIE WORKS……
• Fact Check: Obama running against outdated version of Ryan Medicare plan
• The Obama campaign would like voters to believe that Paul Ryan's Medicare plan would "end Medicare as we know it" -- privatizing the whole system and costing seniors more than $6,000 extra a year. But the campaign has effectively been running against the wrong Ryan plan.
• LIBERALS CAN’T PLAY ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

More cross thread DUMBOSPAM.

George from Athens wrote:

<quoted text>
Libertarians are not Conservative - we libertarians want RADICAL CHANGE!!! And libertarians are NOT Pseudo-Liberals either - we want LIBERTY!!! What we REALLY are is Progressive and True Liberals!!!
George Katsaris, Athens, Greece :-)

Then why is Ron Paul on the Repub ticket?

Mykro wrote:

<quoted text>Then why is Ron Paul on the Repub ticket?

Ron Paul is a member of the "Republican Liberty Caucus" - that's the Republican Party's LIBERTARIAN wing!!! ;-)

The new rethug mantra-billionaires uber alles!

George from Athens wrote:

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Ron Paul is a member of the "Republican Liberty Caucus" - that's the Republican Party's LIBERTARIAN wing!!! ;-)

Sure it is. It's the frightwing teabag nutjob wing.

Sheik Yerbouti wrote:

The new rethug mantra-billionaires uber alles!

Sure are funny crapola, using all these names. Does Soros send you seperate paychecks and tax time must really be a bitch......carry on bot.....you're getting behind.

Mykro wrote:

<quoted text>Sure it is. It's the frightwing teabag nutjob wing.

FLASH: THIS JUST IN FROM THE SAVE OUR NATION NETWORK........Obama personal approval has dropped from a high of 61% to now a low of 38%. Most of this drop is due to the negativity shown by Obama's campaign. Ads proven and checked to be false are still hitting the air waves. A sure sign of desperation both in voters and money.

It is very telling that Obama's spending is now surpassing his campaign revenue, despite having 250 fund raisers and credit and debit cards Obama refuses to disclose their source or amounts.

It is also telling that Obama despite having the MSM and Media Matters continually carry water for him shows Obama's need to run on everything except his record. It is noted that not only is Obama having trouble defining his campaign, but he is having equal issues defining the Romney campaign without using outdated material or outright lies.

If the current tax rates for "job creators" creates jobs, where are the jobs from the past ten years of tax cuts? Why didn't the Bush tax cuts create jobs instead of massive unemployment at the end of his term? Those who neglect history are doomed to repeat it.

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Is that why your boy has to lie, to attempt to fool the bots one more time.
OBAMA- WHY USE THE TRUTH WHEN A LIE WORKS……
• Fact Check: Obama running against outdated version of Ryan Medicare plan
• The Obama campaign would like voters to believe that Paul Ryan's Medicare plan would "end Medicare as we know it" -- privatizing the whole system and costing seniors more than $6,000 extra a year. But the campaign has effectively been running against the wrong Ryan plan.
• LIBERALS CAN’T PLAY ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.

Jimbo,

1. Ryan released his first plan in 2011...less than a YEAR ago!
He suddenly changed his tune when he was nominated VP running mate:)
SO, he's a flip flopper!?
ALSO, from Politifact:
"The Obama ad would have been more accurate if it had specified that it was referring to a previous Ryan plan for Medicare. We simply don’t have enough details to know how much extra money seniors might have to pay under the current Ryan plan. Still, the Obama campaign gave itself some wiggle room by saying that the plan "could" raise out-of-pocket costs by more than $6,000. On balance, we rate the statement Mostly True."

2. Mitt Romney attack add Repeats false claim:
Mitt Romney's presidential campaign has released a new TV advertisement falsely claiming President Barack Obama has ended work requirements for Americans receiving welfare benefits.
Many other respected newspapers, along with an author of the 1996 welfare reform law, have called the Romney camp's welfare ads brazenly false. The Times-Dispatch itself noted on Monday that Romney's welfare ads have been debunked many times.

3. So, are Conservatives not playing on a level playing field in your opinion too?

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>FLASH: THIS JUST IN FROM THE SAVE OUR NATION NETWORK........

OH, the VERY Christian/Conservative network!
Very reliable!

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Obama personal approval has dropped from a high of 61% to now a low of 38%.

Proof please?
or do you expect us to just take your word for it?

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Most of this drop is due to the negativity shown by Obama's campaign.

...or it could be because your source is a biased christian conservative network?

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>Ads proven and checked to be false are still hitting the air waves. A sure sign of desperation both in voters and money.

Mitt's "Obama welfare" attack ad has been proven FALSE, and a LIE by ALL, and yet I saw it TODAY on TV!
So?
Does that mean Mitt is desperate and in need of money too?

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>
It is very telling that Obama's spending is now surpassing his campaign revenue, despite having 250 fund raisers and credit and debit cards Obama refuses to disclose their source or amounts.

Proof please :)
You've already been proven a liar (remember)?
So, I would need proof, before I believe ANYTHING you post!

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>
It is also telling that Obama despite having the MSM and Media Matters continually carry water for him shows Obama's need to run on everything except his record.

LIE!
He is running on his record:)
What's bad about saving the economy from collapse, saving the auto industry, oil production at 8 year high, stock market and DOW at 5 year high, pulled troops from Iraq, saved homeowners homes, got Bin Laden..I could go on?
Mitt CAN NOT run on his record....and you know it!

I can't wait to see Obama SHRED Mitt on the televised debates!
Those will be the nail in Mitts coffin!

Le Jimbo wrote:

<quoted text>It is noted that not only is Obama having trouble defining his campaign, but he is having equal issues defining the Romney campaign without using outdated material or outright lies.

Then you might wanna do more research!
Look at his website!
HA!
You really need to keep up!
When Mitt was Governor, Massachusetts got:
Economic growth trailed the rest of the country every year he was governor, and job growth failed to keep up with population growth, even as the reverse was true in the rest of the country. When he left office, Massachusetts’ unemployment rate was higher than the national average for the first time since 1995.
In Romney’s first two years, wages fell by 5%—the steepest in the nation. While the median income nationwide was on the rise, it was dropping in Massachusetts.

During his first year in office, Governor Romney proposed higher fees for hospitals, nursing homes, motor vehicles, buying a house, the blind, disabled people, and getting married, and that first year Massachusetts increased fees more than any other state in the nation.
For the average person in Massachusetts, that meant an increase of $1,227 in state and local fees and taxes.
He raised gas tax in Mass. by 400%
While increasing fees and taxes for middle-class families, Governor Romney cut taxes for 278 of the state’s wealthiest individuals, costing taxpayers more than $75 million.

Romney left behind a $1 billion budget deficit for the next governor and saddled Massachusetts taxpayers with more debt per person than any other state.

ALL THOSE ARE FACTS!
...any comments?

Snow Bunny_ wrote:

If the current tax rates for "job creators" creates jobs, where are the jobs from the past ten years of tax cuts? Why didn't the Bush tax cuts create jobs instead of massive unemployment at the end of his term? Those who neglect history are doomed to repeat it.

Do you only build a foundations with one brick?