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Olympics

Without rights, pride is empty

By W.G. Huang D espite their deep-rooted political differences regarding China's Communist government, many Chinese-Americans had high hopes that the Olympic Games would bring pride and respect to our ...

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Dan
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May 4, 2008
 
"Demonstrations by human-rights activists and pro-Tibetan groups outraged the Chinese government. In response, the news media controlled by the Beijing regime stirred up a nationalist frenzy."

How convenient that you forgot to mention the western media’s reporting right after March 14th. For me that was the main reason for the outrage of the Chinese, including the oversee Chinese. The torch relay disruption was just salt on the wound. But without the biased media reporting and the false accusation, I am not so sure whether those torch events would have the same effect. My suggestion to you: as a journalist, only an objective analysis will really connect with your audience. Otherwise, it is no different than the propaganda conducted on the mainland Chinese media and you will lose the credibility in the eye of the Chinese audience.
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May 4, 2008
 
Dan wrote:
"Demonstrations by human-rights activists and pro-Tibetan groups outraged the Chinese government. In response, the news media controlled by the Beijing regime stirred up a nationalist frenzy."
How convenient that you forgot to mention the western media’s reporting right after March 14th. For me that was the main reason for the outrage of the Chinese, including the oversee Chinese. The torch relay disruption was just salt on the wound. But without the biased media reporting and the false accusation, I am not so sure whether those torch events would have the same effect. My suggestion to you: as a journalist, only an objective analysis will really connect with your audience. Otherwise, it is no different than the propaganda conducted on the mainland Chinese media and you will lose the credibility in the eye of the Chinese audience.
True. We tend to believe we have a right to the moral high ground. In this case, that belief drove the same actions on our part that we condemn the Chinese for.
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May 4, 2008
 
The author implied that the overwhelming majority of the Chinese Americans are somehow manipulated by Chinese government to demonstrate in US to express their pro-Chinese view. Is that credible?

We express our pro-China view because, not that Chinese gervernment is perfect and have no rooom for improvement, but they sure has made great pregress in the past and deserving encouragement, instead of insulting them and send them back to isolation again.

Weak thinker can only make a weak writer.
May Ju
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May 4, 2008
 
Excellent article! As a chineses-American, It makes me pride.
Hi, There is some Chinese jorunalist who got brain.
May Ju
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May 4, 2008
 
"We express our pro-China view because, not that Chinese gervernment is perfect---" Brain, you mixed 2 concepts, pro-China and pro-Chinese goverment. Yet, non goverment is perfect, but Brain, as a chinese, do you have right to choose your goverment?
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May 5, 2008
 
May,

Chinese Govt represents the people of China and the people of China support it. The Govt is a contract Govt and as long as the Govt is doing a good job, it will stay in power. The people wanted economic development first after the disastrous political movements of the Cultural revolution, and so the Govt gave it to them. With spectacular success I may add. The last 30 years where 400m Chinese have been pulled from under the poverty line is nothing short of a miracle and an achievement way understated by the West, and I may add, without any help from the West. After economic development, one day the people will want universal suffrage and when the conditions are right, the Govt will have to give it to them. Progress come in stages. You cannot impose Western style democracy onto a country with so much complexity and historical baggage: it's a recipe for disaster. With China you can always pick on the country/Govt. It's always glass half full or half empty. The last 30 years have proven the glass half way is the right way to think about China. Encouragement and not vilification of China is the way to go. You ask "do you have right to choose your Govt"? I say, the right to be fed and clothed and to security (which many American inner cities by the way do not have) come first...the right to vote will come later...as a sign, China already is very democratic at the top (no longer a helmsman running the show), and it will trickle down...just need to be patient. China has proven many critics wrong for so many years and I believe in 15-25 years' time, we'll sit back and say what a stupid argument we're having, because by then I think China will be the most powerful democracy in the world.
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May 5, 2008
 
china is "prisoner of the past":

nazi germany, gone

red russia, red USSR, gone

Red china, still alive.

Unification of

1. party

2. state

3. army

There is No difference between party-state.

What is the True flag of china.

What is True state emblem of china.

What is True government of china.

This only possible when there is Seperation of party-state.

State cannot be Party

Party cannot be State.

1911: end of boy-emperor. 3-year old emperor Pu Yi

1949: Red emperor. unification of party, state, army. Red mao, red killer of 50 million

China, must be a Free china. Not a Red china.

'49 civil war brought kommunist to power. No elections.

No votes, No rights, No free speech.

For china to be Free, there must be a Seperation of Party-State.
Glenn Yu
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May 5, 2008
 
As a Chinese-American, I think this article has been successful in articulating my view. The Chinese government is using the media to justify their violent crackdown in Tibet, just like during the Tiananmen Square massacre of students.

Its a shame, the Chinese government has only managed to bring a bad name to us Chinese all over the world.
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May 5, 2008
 
As a tibetan, I saw exactly the same thing happening as you wrote. There are enough evidence that most protest in the west by the pro-China Chinese have been organized and supported by the Chinese consulates and embassies.
The young people are being manipulated and used by the government to serve its end as was done in the 1960s and 70s by Mao. Its really sad.
Some Chinese are expressing anger at protest by Tibetans on the March 14th in Lhasa. But they fail to see what happened on the three days prior to that. They just look at the incident on March 14th because that was what Beijing showed on CCTV. Here is something from Woeser a Tibetan writer who is now settled in Beijing. To know exactly what happened in Lhasa check this link:
http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2008/03/tibet-up...
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May 5, 2008
 
Amen.
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May 5, 2008
 
This is not only for the Tibetan people, this is also the moment for the Chinese americans to rise and really oppose their government's policy. We live outside of China in a democratic country, where there is "FREEDOM" now this is what the Tibetan People are asking for. Thank you for this article.
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May 5, 2008
 
This is not about nationalism. It's about fighting against racism and prejudice. CNN went out of its way to demonizing by using Fake pictures. CIA paid Dalai Lama. Many Americans supporting the monks without even realizing they're supporting a slavery regime. It's frightening how effective the weapon of massive deception is.
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May 5, 2008
 
Why do everyone believe in a dubious source and think that 150 people died in Tibet during the March 14 unrest? The only group that said this is Tibetan Government in exile. In the first day of the unrest, they claimed to have 100 confirmed reports of death. Then they reduced the claim to 80 confirmed reports of death. Everyday afterwards, they added a little to reach 150 in the end. How can they confirmed the death when China shut down all communication to outside? No one ever questioned if that group made these statistics up.
The one journalist that was in Tibet was James Miles, and you don't hear much out of him, probably because he doesn't report an image fitting the mainstream media--Chinese army mercilessly slaughter Tibetans for peaceful protests. Listen to him and the tourists that had been there. They all failed to confirm the slaughter claimed by the Tibetan government in exile.
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May 5, 2008
 
I totally agree with the writer.
This "people war" is the ultimate communist tool to crush popular dissent. Remember Tiannamen and remember the Falun Gong. It is time the Chinese intellects make their point and let the govt. realize, their time is up.
A popular Govt. should listen to its people, not imposed their will.
Otherwise our country would be just beautiful from outside but rotten deep inside.
Communist must leave and make way for democracy.
FREE CHINA : POWER AND RESPECT TO THE CITIZEN.
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May 6, 2008
 
Huang

From all the events associated with the Olympics that are going on so far, the content of your article does not reflect the truth. The Olympics torch relay is run by people known in their countries and societies. Therefore, anyone against the torch relay would be against their countires and societies. Whereever the torch realy is held, there is overwhelming excitement and celebration. You should really advise the activists to stay away from the protest, as the supporters are obviously viewing them as unwanted in these joyous occasions.

The athelets all round the world want the Olympics, and they are telling the politicians do not spoil their opportunities - you know this too.

Afterall, democracy means "the majority rules". So, please stick to this discipline.
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May 6, 2008
 
I am a Chinese american too. thank you for articulating my feeling so well. I was going to write an op-ed. you have already said what I wanted to say. I now want to write about this from a different angle.
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May 6, 2008
 
Mr. W.G. Huang, please do not assume you represents chinese-americans nor chinese citizens living in the US. Not a single one around me, not a single one share your opinion.

Were you on the street of downtown chicago on 5/4 to protest against Dalai and the Tibet Gov in Exile? Were you on the streets to protest against CNN and news fabrication on 4/24? Did you know there were massive parade by chinese people on these days?

This is truly astonishing someone who has no knowledge of the mainstream opinion could write some a piece. It's a shame for Chicago Tribune to even publish this article.
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May 6, 2008
 
"In a recent speech, a senior Chinese Communist Party official called upon the Chinese public to start a "people's war" against those who would dare to criticize and isolate China."
Where did you get this from? I can not seem to find it from cnn?
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May 6, 2008
 
2008: you have the Iraqi situation getting worse, and likely Iran in the near future.

Would a few million deaths mean anything to you when you enjoy your perfect sociopolitical system? Are Iraqis less of human being than you are?
charles darwin wrote:
china is "prisoner of the past":
nazi germany, gone
red russia, red USSR, gone
Red china, still alive.
Unification of
1. party
2. state
3. army
There is No difference between party-state.
What is the True flag of china.
What is True state emblem of china.
What is True government of china.
This only possible when there is Seperation of party-state.
State cannot be Party
Party cannot be State.
1911: end of boy-emperor. 3-year old emperor Pu Yi
1949: Red emperor. unification of party, state, army. Red mao, red killer of 50 million
China, must be a Free china. Not a Red china.
'49 civil war brought kommunist to power. No elections.
No votes, No rights, No free speech.
For china to be Free, there must be a Seperation of Party-State.
I have serious doubts
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May 6, 2008
 
What if your opinion is different from the majority of the other chinese people? Yes you have the rights to get your voice heard. But why can not the other 1.3 billion?
May Ju wrote:
"We express our pro-China view because, not that Chinese gervernment is perfect---" Brain, you mixed 2 concepts, pro-China and pro-Chinese goverment. Yet, non goverment is perfect, but Brain, as a chinese, do you have right to choose your goverment?
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