Fire Set to Punish Grandma?

Another inner city animal. Who is to blame this time? The system? Or is it a lack of respect taught to these kids by there doped up parents?

It's apparent that a kid who does something like this in thought and deed has a problem.
This kid is not an animal, nor do I believe he's the product of doped up parents.
He's probally a kid that needs psychiatric help.
If this 5 year old kid was from the suburbs and committed the very same act, would you call him am amimal?

Is this site generally a haven for racist morons?

He really showed her didn't he?

"Animal" huh....?
Let me just say that I know these people personally..By the suprising mediation of church!! Yes "Animals" go to church as well! And I would like to also point out that we in the inner city are people and that the choice to live in the inner city does not make us what you classified us as. Because should that be the case! Then I suppose that you suburbian inhabitants are just hidden perverts! But since I am not as IGNORANT as you just proved to be! I will point out that, that boy may just need medical help by his way of thinking, but he surely did not come from abandonment or a drugged up family. In fact the grandmother Nancy Herrera is a well respected individual of our church and community. If your looking for someone to blame look to yourself, because you may not have directly influenced what happened there but your way of thinking is what restricts many from moving forward.
I was born and raised in South Bronx... yet I have accomplished many things from College degrees (Plural!) to Serving in the United States Army....
You still considering us an "Inner city Animals"?
Forget your blame game, while your sitting there thinking any of this is some kind of game, Do your damn research next time... Because alot of positive HAS come out of the inner city, Now is the time to use it to help our youth and guide them in the right direction.

Lets play the blame game wrote:

Another inner city animal. Who is to blame this time? The system? Or is it a lack of respect taught to these kids by there doped up parents?

Lets play the blame game wrote:

Another inner city animal. Who is to blame this time? The system? Or is it a lack of respect taught to these kids by there doped up parents?

Are you out of your mind. It is a 5 year old you are talking about, albeit a very troubled one but a five year old none the less. Next you'll want to fine toddlers for dropping their bottles in the street after drinking their milk.

Yes the parents are absolutely to blame. The five year old said that he was going to set the fire, he was known to have played with matches in the past and he did indeed set the fire. What he didn't understand and know is what the repercussions would be because he has the mind of a what... A FIVE YEAR-OLD!

Ivy1 wrote:

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Are you out of your mind. It is a 5 year old you are talking about, albeit a very troubled one but a five year old none the less. Next you'll want to fine toddlers for dropping their bottles in the street after drinking their milk.
Yes the parents are absolutely to blame. The five year old said that he was going to set the fire, he was known to have played with matches in the past and he did indeed set the fire. What he didn't understand and know is what the repercussions would be because he has the mind of a what... A FIVE YEAR-OLD!

Being 5 is NOT an excuse for this kind of dangerous behavior. I guess if his grandmother had died, she could have gone to god, or the hospital and said "it was a 5 year old" and her burns would automatically disappear. God forbid she had died. then, it wouldn't matter how old she was.

RC the Bx wrote:

It's apparent that a kid who does something like this in thought and deed has a problem.
This kid is not an animal, nor do I believe he's the product of doped up parents.
He's probally a kid that needs psychiatric help.
If this 5 year old kid was from the suburbs and committed the very same act, would you call him am amimal?

He's a five year old who needs an ass whipping.

sean1030 wrote:

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Being 5 is NOT an excuse for this kind of dangerous behavior. I guess if his grandmother had died, she could have gone to god, or the hospital and said "it was a 5 year old" and her burns would automatically disappear. God forbid she had died. then, it wouldn't matter how old she was.

No where in my post did I say the being 5 was an excuse for this behavior. There is a reason why children under 12 or 13 don't go to jail. They have not yet reached the age of reason. I child can know that something is bad at 5, 6, 7 etc... but does not understand the consequences of these actions beyond getting a time out or mommy or daddy will be really mad or getting his hide torn in two. They don't comprehend death well if at all, let alone hurt, pain, monetary damages, disability, loathing of the person who set the fire and it goes on and on. They especially don't understand all the psychological ramifications they will most likely suffer in the future. Said psychological damage will now compound the psychological distress a child like this has to already be experiencing in order for him to be angry enough to set a fire in the first place.

I said the parents were to blame because from what I've read, both this particular child's parents were unable to take care of him due to their own personal problems (I believe drugs is one for one of the parents). This is why grandma had him in the first place. This kid could be a crack baby, suffering the effects of alcohol abuse or who knows what. I am not saying the child should be punished but in punishing this child the age must be taken into consideration as well as the environment from which he hails.

sean1030 wrote:

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Being 5 is NOT an excuse for this kind of dangerous behavior. I guess if his grandmother had died, she could have gone to god, or the hospital and said "it was a 5 year old" and her burns would automatically disappear. God forbid she had died. then, it wouldn't matter how old she was.

Nowhere in my post did I say that being 5 was an excuse for this behavior. There is a reason why children under 12 or 13 don't go to jail. They have not yet reached the age of reason. A child can know that something is bad at 5, 6, 7 etc... but does not understand the consequences of these actions beyond getting a time out or mommy or daddy will be really mad, or getting his hide torn in two. They don't comprehend death well if at all, let alone hurt, pain, monetary damages, disability, loathing of the person who set the fire, self-loathing and it goes on and on. They especially don't understand all the psychological ramifications they will most likely suffer in the future. Said psychological damage will now compound the psychological distress a child like this has to already be experiencing in order for him to be angry enough to set a fire in the first place.

I said the parents were to blame because from what I've read, both this particular child's parents were unable to take care of him due to their own personal problems (I believe drugs is one for one of the parents). This is why grandma had him in the first place. This kid could be a crack baby, suffering the effects of alcohol abuse or who knows what. I am not saying the child should be punished but in punishing this child the age must be taken into consideration as well as the environment from which he hails.

Bullshit he didn't know what the repercussions would be. He was pissed off that he couldn't go out to play. He then stated that he was going to burn her house down to punish her. HELLO-are you listening to yourself? He obviosusly knew what happens when you play with fire. They have been prosecuting kids regardless of age;because, they are getting more & more out of control all the time. Don't even go there with the poor child's age or circumstances bull shit. Everyone has had some form of crappy childhood drama & yet they are productive members of society. Stop putting everything off on parents, childhood, abuse, & other nonsense. Inner city or not that doesn't have a damn thing to do with it; however, people's way of thinking doesn't have anything to do with "moving forward". Everyone is accountable for their own actions. I think the little brat needs professional help--and a good ass whipping!

dmc2008 wrote:

Bullshit he didn't know what the repercussions would be. He was pissed off that he couldn't go out to play. He then stated that he was going to burn her house down to punish her. HELLO-are you listening to yourself? He obviosusly knew what happens when you play with fire. They have been prosecuting kids regardless of age;because, they are getting more & more out of control all the time. Don't even go there with the poor child's age or circumstances bull shit. Everyone has had some form of crappy childhood drama & yet they are productive members of society. Stop putting everything off on parents, childhood, abuse, & other nonsense. Inner city or not that doesn't have a damn thing to do with it; however, people's way of thinking doesn't have anything to do with "moving forward". Everyone is accountable for their own actions. I think the little brat needs professional help--and a good ass whipping!

You deal with your emotions in an infantile way and it shows not so much in your response but in the manner in which you choose to respond. Should you get a time out for behaving like a five year old, since the five year old should go to prison because he completely understood what he was doing. I don't know who you were trying to respond to but if by chance it was me, if you took the time to read what was written carefully, instead whipping yourself into a blind rage, you would see that I wrote that the child should be punished but in punishing him his age should be taken into consideration as well as the crime.

Ivy1 wrote:

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You deal with your emotions in an infantile way and it shows not so much in your response but in the manner in which you choose to respond. Should you get a time out for behaving like a five year old, since the five year old should go to prison because he completely understood what he was doing. I don't know who you were trying to respond to but if by chance it was me, if you took the time to read what was written carefully, instead whipping yourself into a blind rage, you would see that I wrote that the child should be punished but in punishing him his age should be taken into consideration as well as the crime.

I never whip myself into a blind rage. Do not flatter yourself thinking that anything I wrote was directed to you. If you do not like something posted or someone's opinion simply do not read it. However, since you obviously must know, my response was directed to those who choose to put the blame on others instead of the child & those who don't believe that he knew what he was doing. Get your facts straight before getting all sanctimonious. I stated he needed professional help & a good ass-whipping--I didn't say prison. Perhaps you need a time out before you reply to that which does not concern you.

dmc2008 wrote:

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I never whip myself into a blind rage. Do not flatter yourself thinking that anything I wrote was directed to you. If you do not like something posted or someone's opinion simply do not read it. However, since you obviously must know, my response was directed to those who choose to put the blame on others instead of the child & those who don't believe that he knew what he was doing. Get your facts straight before getting all sanctimonious. I stated he needed professional help & a good ass-whipping--I didn't say prison. Perhaps you need a time out before you reply to that which does not concern you.

I can read something and not like it that aids in forming an opinion, a like or dislike for something said or read. Futhermore there was nothing sanctimonious in anything I said. You couldn't be further off.

I don't like what the child did, so I am not saying that he doesn't deserve repercussions. It would be hypocritical for me to say that he is only a child and he can't help himself when if it had been me or a member of my family that got burned out or hurt, my first instinct would be to put the bad seed in jail and throw away the key but after that moment had passed and reason set in, I'd like to think that I could see my way clear to realizing that the kid need professional help and he didn't cause his problems, it is highly likely that his actions are the end result of something much deeper. In other words if your mother didn't feed you and left you no money for food, so you ran out and stole money,should you be punished? Yes, I think so but we should recognize that short of you being satan's spawn, there are underlying circumstances.

I realize that the severity of what that boy did could have turned out worse (not that it didn't for him) but are you seriously saying that a child that has just been walking this earth for 5 years is completely responsible for every action that he takes. That he has full and complete knowlege of all his actions, their outcomes and effects? All he knew was that I'm mad because I couldn't go to the park so, I'm burning down this house with grandma in it. He didn't even have the good sense to know that he could be putting himself in danger. He is a bad kid but people contributed to that, that wasn't all him.