Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: well if you murderers, were doing as G-D said. then you murdereres, would not pick up swords to commit murder-suicide. for those who do not believe in TheG-D of TheTorah, actually here in TheTorah. give aid and support, to the murder-genocide of the world. and that makes you, a murderer too. just because every one else, in the world is lying. is not justification, for you to lie also. since lies give, aid and comfort to all the enemies of G-D.
and you shall never even, have a chance at truth. if you are never here in TheTorah, to even have the chance to be true. truth is not relative to you, pretending not here in TheTorah. all truth is relative, to G-D here in TheTorah. lies only support the near destruction, of this whole world. every time G-D, gives this very same again story. it is genocide-murder, to pretend we are never here in TheTorah.
Did the God of the Torah ever command anyone to sacrifice their first born?
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HEBREW CONTRIBUTION TO WORLD CIVILIZATION:

"Happy are those who seize your children and smash them against a rock."

Psalms 137:9
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HEBREW CONTRIBUTION:

1) Leviticus 26:30

“And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shill ye eat.”

2) Leviticus 27:28-29

G-d ordered and allowed human sacrifices.
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The Hebrew G-d = a demonic mfcuker.
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Can You Pass The Israel Palestinian test? Part 23

By Jeffrey Rudolph

Q23.

Who wrote the following passage in his 2006 book?“For, regardless of party loyalties and according to most studies, the overwhelming majority of Israelis would support a peace settlement that is based on the Clinton parameters--two states, withdrawal from territories, massive dismantling of settlements, two capitals in Jerusalem—

but they trust neither their political system nor, of course, the Palestinian leadership to come to an accommodation on that basis. Which may explain the results of a poll conducted in 2002 by the Steinmetz Centre for Peace at Tel Aviv University indicating that, convinced of the incapacity of their political system to produce solutions, 67% of Israeli Jews would support an American effort to recruit an international alliance that would coax the parties into endorsing such a settlement.”

(CONTD.)
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Actually I believe it would be Former Res who would be doing the saluting.
(MUQ - I can explain that Americanism to you when you get a little older)
When I get a "little older" I would be heading for grave!!(That is what our false yogi guessed too)
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TO: MAAT, this series is dedicated to you- MUQ

Revisiting 9/11/2001 --Applying the Scientific Method, Dr. Steven E. Jones Part-19

WTC Dust Sample Analyses (Contd.)

96. Iron melts at 1538 o C, so the presence of these numerous iron-rich spheres implies a very high temperature. Too hot in fact for the fires in the WTC buildings since jet fuel (kerosene), paper and wood furniture – and other office materials – cannot reach the temperatures needed to melt iron or steel.(Remember the wood-burning stove…) Of course, elemental sulfur as found in thermate can lower the melting point of steel as discussed above.

97. As usual, we search for possible prosaic explanations for these metallic spherules in the WTC dust. The most obvious possible source is the melting of large quantities of steel in the buildings followed somehow by formation of tiny droplets of molten steel. As discussed above, however, steel melts at about 1538 o C (2800 o F)– and the temperatures in the buildings were no where near hot enough to melt steel, and certainly not in large quantities required for the amounts seen in the dust (and pouring out of the South Tower before collapse). Furthermore, we have looked at the chemical compositions of a number iron-rich spherules as well as that of steel, and the compositions are not the same at all.

It should not be surprising, however, as we analyze more spherules to find some that are steel-like in composition, assuming that thermite cutter-charges were in fact used to cut through steel.

98. We should then find both steel- and thermite-residue spherules. Could these droplets be due to molten aluminum alloy (from the jets) striking rusty steel and/or other office materials to somehow generate the iron-rich spheres? We performed experiments with molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel, then onto crushed gypsum and concrete (on the rusty steel)– and observed no formation of iron-rich droplets at all nor any sign of vigorous chemical reactions.

http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200703/... and

http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/... Trade_Center.pdf .

99. It has also been suggested that thermate may have been used at ground zero (GZ) during steel cutting operations for clean-up there. However, no documentation whatsoever that thermate was so used has been provided, and so for this suggestion to be seriously considered, the proponents will need to provide documentation for the use of thermate and disclosure of the composition – including KMnO4, S, etc. In this way, we can compare the alleged thermate use with what is observed in the dust.

100. What is thoroughly documented is the use of oxyacetylene torches in the cutting of the steel at ground zero. Furthermore, Janette MacKinlay collected the dust inside her apartment just about a week after the buildings collapsed, so there was very little time for any molten-metal spheres created somehow by the clean-up itself to have made its way into her 4th-floor to be mingled in with the dust up there.

101. In addition, the distance to the apartment from the clean-up operation is about 100 meters (about a football-field length), while in our experiments with thermite/thermate, the glowing sparks (metallic droplets) are seen to travel only a few meters or yards.

The holes formed in the two broken windows of this apartment were about two feet by three feet, increasing the unlikelihood that any metallic spheres from the (improbable) use of thermate at GZ could have entered the apartment during the few days before the dust was collected.(On the other hand, the fast-moving dust clouds on 9/11/2001 traveled for many blocks and certainly would have carried small residues with them,

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MUQ wrote:
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When I get a "little older" I would be heading for grave!!(That is what our false yogi guessed too)
Your end - by 2016.
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
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My dad and mom expired years ago.
You're the one who asked "How's Ma?"

I hope to die before I expire. How about you?

Before the "See by" date would be even better.

Always leave them wanting more.
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former res wrote:
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You're the one who asked "How's Ma?"
I hope to die before I expire. How about you?
Before the "See by" date would be even better.
Always leave them wanting more.
Incoherent post.

Anyway, i'll get in touch later. Going to a party. Bye.
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Incoherent post.
Anyway, i'll get in touch later. Going to a party. Bye.
Are you in charge of the Kool Aid by any chance?
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Are you in charge of the Kool Aid by any chance?
Damn it. It was Flavor Aid. Made right here in the Chicago Suburbs.
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Eric wrote:
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Damn it. It was Flavor Aid. Made right here in the Chicago Suburbs.
Or was it?

"....Given that reasoning, Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (not Kool-Aid despite the popular phrase). However, later released video made to show the best of Jonestown shows Jones opening a storage container full of Kool-Aid in large quantities. This may have been what was used to mix the "potion" (as was referred to in several statements obtained by the FBI in the final tape recordings) along with a sedative.[92]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
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Eric wrote:
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Damn it. It was Flavor Aid. Made right here in the Chicago Suburbs.
Having local pride is always important for a community
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JOEL PASTAKIA wrote:
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Incoherent post.
Anyway, i'll get in touch later. Going to a party. Bye.
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Agreed.

Should have read "Sell by" date.

Don't let anyone have their way with you at the party.

No one will marry you if you're "ruined."

Keep your legs together, like a good girl.
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voluntarist wrote:
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Did the God of the Torah ever command anyone to sacrifice their first born?
rabbee: i don't believe G-D, has ever sacrificed Noach?
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MUQ wrote:
TO: MAAT, this series is dedicated to you- MUQ
Revisiting 9/11/2001 --Applying the Scientific Method, Dr. Steven E. Jones Part-19
WTC Dust Sample Analyses (Contd.)
96. Iron melts at 1538 o C, so the presence of these numerous iron-rich spheres implies a very high temperature. Too hot in fact for the fires in the WTC buildings since jet fuel (kerosene), paper and wood furniture – and other office materials – cannot reach the temperatures needed to melt iron or steel.(Remember the wood-burning stove…) Of course, elemental sulfur as found in thermate can lower the melting point of steel as discussed above.
97. As usual, we search for possible prosaic explanations for these metallic spherules in the WTC dust. The most obvious possible source is the melting of large quantities of steel in the buildings followed somehow by formation of tiny droplets of molten steel. As discussed above, however, steel melts at about 1538 o C (2800 o F)– and the temperatures in the buildings were no where near hot enough to melt steel, and certainly not in large quantities required for the amounts seen in the dust (and pouring out of the South Tower before collapse). Furthermore, we have looked at the chemical compositions of a number iron-rich spherules as well as that of steel, and the compositions are not the same at all.
It should not be surprising, however, as we analyze more spherules to find some that are steel-like in composition, assuming that thermite cutter-charges were in fact used to cut through steel.
98. We should then find both steel- and thermite-residue spherules. Could these droplets be due to molten aluminum alloy (from the jets) striking rusty steel and/or other office materials to somehow generate the iron-rich spheres? We performed experiments with molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel, then onto crushed gypsum and concrete (on the rusty steel)– and observed no formation of iron-rich droplets at all nor any sign of vigorous chemical reactions.
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200703/... and
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/... Trade_Center.pdf .
99. It has also been suggested that thermate may have been used at ground zero (GZ) during steel cutting operations for clean-up there. However, no documentation whatsoever that thermate was so used has been provided, and so for this suggestion to be seriously considered, the proponents will need to provide documentation for the use of thermate and disclosure of the composition – including KMnO4, S, etc. In this way, we can compare the alleged thermate use with what is observed in the dust.
100. What is thoroughly documented is the use of oxyacetylene torches in the cutting of the steel at ground zero. Furthermore, Janette MacKinlay collected the dust inside her apartment just about a week after the buildings collapsed, so there was very little time for any molten-metal spheres created somehow by the clean-up itself to have made its way into her 4th-floor to be mingled in with the dust up there.
101. In addition, the distance to the apartment from the clean-up operation is about 100 meters (about a football-field length), while in our experiments with thermite/thermate, the glowing sparks (metallic droplets) are seen to travel only a few meters or yards.
The holes formed in the two broken windows of this apartment were about two feet by three feet, increasing the unlikelihood that any metallic spheres from the (improbable) use of thermate at GZ could have entered the apartment during the few days before the dust was collected.(On the other hand, the fast-moving dust clouds on 9/11/2001 traveled for many blocks and certainly would have carried small residues with them,
rabbee: yeah! like you can always trust muslems, who fly airplanes into buildings to not lie about it.
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MUQ wrote:
TO: MAAT, this series is dedicated to you- MUQ
Revisiting 9/11/2001 --Applying the Scientific Method, Dr. Steven E. Jones Part-19
WTC Dust Sample Analyses (Contd.)
96. Iron melts at 1538 o C, so the presence of these numerous iron-rich spheres implies a very high temperature. Too hot in fact for the fires in the WTC buildings since jet fuel (kerosene), paper and wood furniture – and other office materials – cannot reach the temperatures needed to melt iron or steel.(Remember the wood-burning stove…) Of course, elemental sulfur as found in thermate can lower the melting point of steel as discussed above.
97. As usual, we search for possible prosaic explanations for these metallic spherules in the WTC dust. The most obvious possible source is the melting of large quantities of steel in the buildings followed somehow by formation of tiny droplets of molten steel. As discussed above, however, steel melts at about 1538 o C (2800 o F)– and the temperatures in the buildings were no where near hot enough to melt steel, and certainly not in large quantities required for the amounts seen in the dust (and pouring out of the South Tower before collapse). Furthermore, we have looked at the chemical compositions of a number iron-rich spherules as well as that of steel, and the compositions are not the same at all.
It should not be surprising, however, as we analyze more spherules to find some that are steel-like in composition, assuming that thermite cutter-charges were in fact used to cut through steel.
98. We should then find both steel- and thermite-residue spherules. Could these droplets be due to molten aluminum alloy (from the jets) striking rusty steel and/or other office materials to somehow generate the iron-rich spheres? We performed experiments with molten aluminum poured onto rusty steel, then onto crushed gypsum and concrete (on the rusty steel)– and observed no formation of iron-rich droplets at all nor any sign of vigorous chemical reactions.
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200703/... and
http://journalof911studies.com/volume/200609/... Trade_Center.pdf .
99. It has also been suggested that thermate may have been used at ground zero (GZ) during steel cutting operations for clean-up there. However, no documentation whatsoever that thermate was so used has been provided, and so for this suggestion to be seriously considered, the proponents will need to provide documentation for the use of thermate and disclosure of the composition – including KMnO4, S, etc. In this way, we can compare the alleged thermate use with what is observed in the dust.
100. What is thoroughly documented is the use of oxyacetylene torches in the cutting of the steel at ground zero. Furthermore, Janette MacKinlay collected the dust inside her apartment just about a week after the buildings collapsed, so there was very little time for any molten-metal spheres created somehow by the clean-up itself to have made its way into her 4th-floor to be mingled in with the dust up there.
101. In addition, the distance to the apartment from the clean-up operation is about 100 meters (about a football-field length), while in our experiments with thermite/thermate, the glowing sparks (metallic droplets) are seen to travel only a few meters or yards.
The holes formed in the two broken windows of this apartment were about two feet by three feet, increasing the unlikelihood that any metallic spheres from the (improbable) use of thermate at GZ could have entered the apartment during the few days before the dust was collected.(On the other hand, the fast-moving dust clouds on 9/11/2001 traveled for many blocks and certainly would have carried small residues with them,
rabbee: yeah! you can always trust lying murdering muslems, who fly airplanes into tall buildings.
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Or was it?
"....Given that reasoning, Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (not Kool-Aid despite the popular phrase). However, later released video made to show the best of Jonestown shows Jones opening a storage container full of Kool-Aid in large quantities. This may have been what was used to mix the "potion" (as was referred to in several statements obtained by the FBI in the final tape recordings) along with a sedative.[92]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
The only problem is that if you go to footnote 92 and click the link to the site, there is no mention of either. Nor is there a link to the alleged video.

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Frijoles wrote:
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Or was it?
"....Given that reasoning, Jones and several members argued that the group should commit "revolutionary suicide" by drinking cyanide-laced grape flavored Flavor Aid (not Kool-Aid despite the popular phrase). However, later released video made to show the best of Jonestown shows Jones opening a storage container full of Kool-Aid in large quantities. This may have been what was used to mix the "potion" (as was referred to in several statements obtained by the FBI in the final tape recordings) along with a sedative.[92]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jones
Great. You just uncovered a conspiracy. It's just a matter of time before ATF (a.k.a volunteerist) is all over this.

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