Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

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nac wrote:

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Sorry dude, but you also have been known to make stuff up, you know, lie. So my skepticism is justified.

joe wrote:

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Like I said
"If you don't like the numbers do what all good right wing flat-earthers do, ignore them,... or prove them wrong."
You simpleton's have a hard time with the FACT that I don't give a shit what you think ('cause most of you don't, anyhow, think that is).
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You're all about twelve years old so discussion and debate are impossible. I'll just post the facts (and point out the Republican lies) and you just go ahead and do whatever.
So go back to your cell leader and report in. Have a fun.

nac wrote:

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You posted data without a source, I asked for the source. You said it was from the Medicare Trustees Report... It wasn't.
We all know that you aren't telling the truth. Even the hard-line liberals know that you are a liar. Name-calling doesn't make up for that.
How do you justify posting falsehoods over and over again?

joe wrote:

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I get it, you name-call and it's fine but no one else, right?
What a hypocrite. You just said my numbers were false so you must know they're false, right? So, why not prove them wrong?
Like I said I don't give a shit whether you believe me or not. Continue to believe what you're told to believe and continue to not look up anything. And continue to run to fox for all your answers. I don't care. Out.

joe wrote:

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Like I said
"If you don't like the numbers do what all good right wing flat-earthers do, ignore them,... or prove them wrong."
You simpleton's have a hard time with the FACT that I don't give a shit what you think ('cause most of you don't, anyhow, think that is).
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You're all about twelve years old so discussion and debate are impossible. I'll just post the facts (and point out the Republican lies) and you just go ahead and do whatever.
So go back to your cell leader and report in. Have a fun.

Teddy R wrote:

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Epic fail.
You just posted, in effect - "I got NOTHIN'! I don't have to! I just crap out talking point turdlets with no verifiable supporting evidence whatsoever, and claim I'm posting FACTS!"
Your kung fu is laughably weak.
But keep going, by all means! Obobo's credibility and re-election prospects erode with every one of your ridiculous posts!
We are vastly amused ...

Chimera still hiding behind the joe moniker wrote:

David Stockman, former director of the Office of Management and Budget under President Ronald Reagan points to massive failures by Republicans, while they were in power, to assure that financial accounts were balanced in government, international trade, on the ledgers of central banks and in the affairs of private businesses and households.
He points to a list of misguided Republican actions that have led the country to economic disaster:
the runaway growth of public debt resulting "not from big spending by the Democrats, but instead the Republican Party's embrace ... of the insidious doctrine that deficits don't matter if they result from tax cuts,"
the neocon's sky-high inflation of the military budget,
the "warfare state,"
the removal of traditional restrictions on leverage and speculation by the financial sector which led to a "vast, unproductive expansion of our financial sector,"
and the steady sending of jobs and production offshore. Stockman charges that Republicans have strayed so far from their ideological roots that they have "made a mockery of party ideals" and led the country into adopting policies that crippled the economy.
Don't get all stressed, I didn't say it, Ronnie's director of the Office of Management and Budget, did.

Politics as usual wrote:

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you are counting too much on the corrupt mainstream media. this is their point of view, my point of view is very simple,
Obama and the democrats had control of the executive branch and both branches of congress including a filibuster proof majority in the senate.
they used that control to pass one of the most despised pieces of legislation in generations, obamacare with dirty backroom deals and reconciliation,
they also passed the almost trillion dollar payoff to their supporters disguised as stimulus.
as a result the people elected the republicans in a landslide election to stop the democrats agenda, and the republicans have done that, by stopping Obama and the democrats from more payoffs and kickbacks they have done exactly what the people elected them to do.
the republicans also made many proposals, all of which were stopped by the democrats.
now we are faced with continued bad economic times and high unemployment as a result of the stimulus/payoff, and the pending obamacare.
thanks to the supreme court, the people will again take action in 2012 and vote in more republicans and a republican president to repeal obamacare and reverse the economic tide.
i am sure that the democrats will try to stop the this agenda, but if they succeed it will only mean another republican victory in 2014.
you see despite what you read in the corrupt mainstream media, the people want obamacare repealed, and they are tired of the kickbacks and payoffs that Obama and the democrat party are all about. and until obamacare is reversed and the kickbacks stop, they will continue to vote out democrats, until they heed the message of the people.

Teddy R wrote:

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Flogging revisionist history again, I see.
Fair cop on the US stirring up post-war uprisings against Saddam and then breaking faith by failing to back the Kurdish and southern rebels up, instead standing by and watching as Saddam brutally wiped them out.
Bad rap on the no-fly zone, however. Your beef is properly with the UN and the Coalition, not with Bush 41, certainly in the South.
You conveniently ignore the fact that the US was there only as part of a Coalition of nations acting under authority of U.N. Security Council resolution 678.
The Coalition negotiated and signed a ceasefire agreement with the Iraqi regime, as part of which Iraq was explicitly approved to fly armed helicopters on their side of the temporary border, ostensibly for government transit due to the damage done to civilian infrastructure.
This was not a unilateral US deal. You are wrong to suggest it was Bush 41's doing.

TSM wrote:

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OKB I’ll tell you a success Story!! I believe like Reagan believed that Government is the problem not the solution. And he understood the solution to a recession was not more government but more capitalism. Inflation dropped from 13.5% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988. Interest rates fell from 18% in 1981 to 8% in 1987. Unemployment went from nearly 10% during Reagan’s first year to 5.5% when he left office. The Reagan economic plan created millions of jobs and trillions of dollars in wealth.

TSM wrote:

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OKB I’ll tell you a success Story!! I believe like Reagan believed that Government is the problem not the solution. And he understood the solution to a recession was not more government but more capitalism. Inflation dropped from 13.5% in 1980 to 4.1% in 1988. Interest rates fell from 18% in 1981 to 8% in 1987. Unemployment went from nearly 10% during Reagan’s first year to 5.5% when he left office. The Reagan economic plan created millions of jobs and trillions of dollars in wealth.

joe Goebbels wrote:

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Like I said
"If you don't like the numbers do what all good right wing flat-earthers do, ignore them,... or prove them wrong."
You simpleton's have a hard time with the FACT that I don't give a shit what you think ('cause most of you don't, anyhow, think that is).
I'm not trying to convince you of anything. You're all about twelve years old so discussion and debate are impossible. I'll just post the facts (and point out the Republican lies) and you just go ahead and do whatever.
So go back to your cell leader and report in. Have a fun.

nac wrote:

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I didn't say that your numbers were false, I said that they aren't from the Medicare Trustees Report. And they clearly aren't. The only name I called you was a liar, because YOU OBVIOUSLY LIED about where your numbers were from.
I have repeatedly asked you to tell me where your numbers are actually from, since they are most certainly NOT FROM the Medicare Trustees Report... and your response has only been to call me a "right wing flat-earther" ... because I won't accept your lies.
Again, where did you get your data from?

joe wrote:

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Just like,
The last 3 Republican administrations have added 9,515,990,000,000 to the National Debt.

okboston wrote:

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NOTE:
The economy and large events works in terms of years. We will see a good economy again. Just like we did after WWII (pent up demand and private savings from the depression and rationing in WW II.), and just like we did in the 80's and 90's when there was pent up demand from late 60's through the 70's.

Say the Truth wrote:

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In other words your numbers are either complete fabrication on your part or you found it in some ObamaScare related propaganda (Krugman) and you know we would rip it apart if you exposed the source .
Noted.

TSM wrote:

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Okboston… This is something Krugman from the NYT would have written to defend Obama’s failed Economic policies!! Boston we’re in a Bad cycle it’s ‘Obama’ we’ll correct it in November!! But I agree the Economy will Improve in 2013 under New Leadership!!

okboston wrote:

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While depending on the source and what is included, his post is generally correct. PROFITS + Overhead are much higher at insurance companies than they are for Medicare.
Same thing goes for Executive pay vs. worker pay. The multiple has increased greatly over the years. And we seem to get pretty sorry corporate leadership out of them.

okboston wrote:

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Actually, the economy probably will not improve much at all until or after 2015.
1. Housing surplus.
2. Deleveraging.
3. Debt.
4. Availability of Natural Gas (the gas is there by the infrastructure is not.)
And this does not include any drag caused by Europe, higher oil prices or other world events that increase uncertainty.