Obama promises more than 600,000 stimulus jobs

Fishbait wrote:

the fish thinks that Obama should open up his job to someone new

Better that he just swim back to Africa, and try his Marxism over in his homeland.

Econ 101 wrote:

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I suppose that if you ignore the population shifts from businesses fleeing high tax, labor unfriendly states like NY and MI to the south and demographics whereby millions of retiring baby boomers are fleeing high tax, crappy weather states like IL and NJ for better weather and lower taxes. If you also ignore the millions of people moving to these southern states to take the jobs created by these shifts then maybe your inane thoughts may have any credibility.
Maybe you have a better reason as to why Al Gore could not even carry his own state?

Up untill 5 years ago, I was a lifelong Tennessean.
We knew how bogus Gore was.
We did not vote for him, or Kerry the Ferry, or Obozo the Communist.
TENNESSEE..A GREAT STATE.

RUSH IS RIGHT wrote:

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Up untill 5 years ago, I was a lifelong Tennessean.
We knew how bogus Gore was.
We did not vote for him, or Kerry the Ferry, or Obozo the Communist.
TENNESSEE..A GREAT STATE.

YEP!

Global warming is a religion,not fact based science.
SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

In a precedent-setting ruling, a judge in the UK upholds Mr Tim Nicholson’s right to sue his former employer because he was fired over his environmental beliefs and his green lifestyle.

Climate change belief given same legal status as religion

In a landmark ruling, Mr Justice Michael Burton said that “a belief in man-made climate change … is capable, if genuinely held, of being a philosophical belief for the purpose of the 2003 Religion and Belief Regulations”.

The ruling could open the door for employees to sue their companies for failing to account for their green lifestyles, such as providing recycling facilities or offering low-carbon travel.

USAsince1680 wrote:

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Whoopee!! Compare that to a family of four making over $435,000 a year...they saved about $64,000.00. Just the people who needed it and they invested that money in the stock market which produced that growth in capital gains you are so proud of and which contributed to the failure of our stock market.
If the Bush tax cuts are allowed to expire:
"It is true that taxes would go up compared with what people pay now should all the tax cuts expire--we calculate an average increase of $1,713. But the AVERAGE increase would not be TYPICAL. The increase would be far smaller,$828, for “typical” middle-earners (income between $27,000 and $48,000 a year). And of course, the increase would be lower still for those with lower incomes. For more than 80% of taxpayers, the increase would be well below the “average” figure. But for the top 1% earners (with incomes over $435,000) the tax increase would be $64,154. That’s what pulls up the average to well above what ordinary taxpayers would experience."

How many lies can you make- let me count the ways

1- The income cutoff for the top 1% was was $410,096 as of teh most recent IRS data, not $435,000

2-I hope you don't do your own taxes if you calculated the tax savings to be $64,000. the closest i could find to a real example shoed a family of 4 making $300,000 saving $8,800 in taxes. At a 35% marginal rate from 300 to 410 the tax would be 38k so the total tax savings is about $47,000, not 64,000 as you claim.
http://tax.cchgroup.com/news/taxbrief_01-08.p...

3-You cannot prove the claim that the rich invested the difference in the mnarket. and data shows that nearly 85% of ALL INDIVIDUALS have an investment in the market either directly or through a ira, 401k or pension plan so your claim is completely without merit

You can try and twist the data all you want butthe bottom line is that the top 1% ALREADY pay their fair share and obama is not just allowing the bush cuts to expire but adding to the tax burden.

the recent IRS data bolsters the findings of an OECD study released last year showing that the U.S.—not France or Sweden—has the most progressive income tax system among OECD nations. We rely more heavily on the top 10 percent of taxpayers than does any nation and our poor people have the lowest tax burden of those in any nation.

Even after the bush tax cuts, the percent of the total taxes paid by the top 1% increased further. Your data has nothing to do with the fact that the amount PAID by the top 1% as a % of the total increased. So what idf the tax cuts allowed them to pay less than before. It just means that they use that extar money to buy goods and services, resulting in jobs and additional tax revenues and economic growth.(as proven by economic data release in teh years following the cuts) Earmarks and gov't waste prove that the gov't is not an efficient allocater of capital and teh most productive use is by individuals allowed to keep and spend more of their own income.

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its like watching really cheep porn? lol!!!!!

Going?? you're behind. I've never seen cheap porn but I get your drift lol.

independent voter Joliet wrote:

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See how dumb the PROGRESSIVES are they can only equate Conservative with being a Republican they don't realize just how many DEMOCRATS are CONSERVATIVE also.. but only 20% admit to being liberals/Progressives.. and I am with you on that leaving the Democrat party stuff..

The liberals are also saying there is support for Obamacare but:

"45 percent support President Barack Obama's proposals to reform health care, with 53 percent opposed to his plans"

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/...

I bet more people leave the Democrats soon.

How dose that song go You Are My Puppet.

Nostrilis Waxman wrote:

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The liberals are also saying there is support for Obamacare but:
"45 percent support President Barack Obama's proposals to reform health care, with 53 percent opposed to his plans"
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/11/...
I bet more people leave the Democrats soon.

I think people are beatin feet from both parties!
Politicians,in general,don't seem to hear,care,or both,to what their employers want.
They actually seem to think we work for them.
These next elections are pivotal.
It's time to send them a powerful message with our votes!
No incumbents until they get the message.
If they won't impose term limits,we must!

Lier

Gab wrote:

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I think people are beatin feet from both parties!
Politicians,in general,don't seem to hear,care,or both,to what their employers want.
They actually seem to think we work for them.
These next elections are pivotal.
It's time to send them a powerful message with our votes!
No incumbents until they get the message.
If they won't impose term limits,we must!

Well, you are right in one sense. True Americans/Republicans are
now going to throw out the RINOS.
The Dims will just continue to morph into Communist/Marxist/Socialist... whatever you want to call them.
I trust that Americans are not so far over the cliff to accept
Obammie Marxism. 2010 and 2012 will be the watershed of America.
It will return to its roots, or forever be lost in a Marxist world of socialism.

2008bill wrote:

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Did you read the issue of NEWSWEEK that rated the top 500 companies against the criteria that would be used for cap and trade? Probably not, or you wold know that majority of them are in good shape. The ones that are on the bottom of the listing, deserve to be.

All those companies will be fine with cap and trade because they will simply pass along the taxes to us.

Just like all the healthcare industry taxes gets passed to us. I hope you don't really believe that any of these companies forgoes their profits by paying any of these taxes. They all get passed on. So what the Obama administration is doing, is just hitting the citizens one more time.

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NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY IS DENIED ACCESS TO HEALTHCARE.
Countries like switzerland and the netherlands have universal care but still operate through private insurance companies, not gov't paid healthcare.
We are also the only country that allows multi- million dollar malpractice awards and US doctors pay as much as 100x more malpractice insurance than any other country, which increases costs for everyone.
The rest of your comments are pure jibberish and irrelevant and you are merely stonewalling with these questions since you already admitted you aren't even familiar with the Mass. plan. Despite actual evidence that obamacare will not work as planned, you still blindly support it. That is just plain STUPID
Now you tell ME how this reform bill will lower costs or how a gov't option can possibly offer lower rates if young, healthy peopel are allowed to opt out with paying a penalty?
Why does the MASS. plan exceed its budget and result in teh highest rates in the country for private plans?

Econ, you are right on as usual. We spend easily over 100 billion dollars a year in defensive medicine in this country because of frivolous lawsuits, yet the democrats will not do anything to stop it. And we all know why, because the trial lawyers own the democrats and the Obama administration, and as usual with the democrats, their supporters and special interest groups are always taken care of, even if it means screwing the citizens of this country.

That is what politics is all about in this country, kicking back to special interest groups and supporters with taxpayer dollars, so that these corrupt politicians can then receive their contributions and support, and thus the citizens of this country get screwed again and again.

There is no way that any healthcare bill could be taken seriously without tort reform as a major part of the bill, anything else is a joke, and the victim of the joke are the citizens of this country, as the trial lawyers continue to pad their bank accounts.

RUSH IS RIGHT wrote:

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Better that he just swim back to Africa, and try his Marxism over in his homeland.

So, the KKK has an outpost in the Philippines.

Econ 101 wrote:

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I bet you will also blame bush for the record casualties in afghanistan lst month.

Who put us there, in the impossible position of trying to defend from the low ground?

Who, scooter?

Cheney? Bush? Rumsfeld?

2008bill wrote:

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LOL! What a case of the pot calling the kettle Black! I can't believe that you would try to call out someone considering the unfounded BS that you post all over this forum. Perhaps this is part of your comedy act!

You are speaking about yourself once again there billy. No go back to your rocker and watch Maddow. That ugly dumb broad that I am sure you think is hot. You idiot!

2008bill wrote:

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Nothing better to do than to check through 24,000 posts to look for something negative to post about me?? LOL!

Just about everyone of your posts are negative you idiot!
Man you really are out there tonite.
Keep trying but unfortunately the game is over for you. And the fans left.

2008bill wrote:

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TEll us about your service to your country. We want to know! Thanks

Tell us why it's ok for soldiers to die in your view!
Come on I got was stats not 1 valid reason yet from you.

By the way, one of the other big causes of the increase in cost of healthcare, is that every doctor is installing testing equipment in their offices ranging from MRI machines to xray and laboratory testing equipment, then they refer their patients for these tests and profit from it.

Yet another cause of the increased healthcare costs, but yet another thing not addressed in almost 2000 pages of this healthcare bill.

Bill_S wrote:

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Tell us why it's ok for soldiers to die in your view!
Come on I got was stats not 1 valid reason yet from you.

08bill he dont give valid reasons, he will beat around the bush big time with this one...LMAO