Martin extended till 2012

"Martin said it's important that the Panthers' next coach can teach the game well, effectively motivate and communicate with players and has a strong track record. He added that he has not yet contacted any candidate nor has one approached him."

All the things HE CAN'T DO!!!

Hey Pie Face...Zednik is still waiting for your visit to the hospital.

NOtice Savard missing from that list. Stupid Garrioch, didn't think he got the jump all the way up there.

Also, as I've said, Martin beleives the coach will be hired sooner than originally mentioned. Big surprise, can everyone else calm down now?

The NHL Network (Channel 215 on DirecTV) will show the Memorial Cup tonight (Saturday) it is Shawn Matthias and his Belleville Bulls VS Gatineau Olympiques. Should be a good game. First game back for Matthias who was out with mono.

Hmmmm no playoffs until 2013 ...

Hahahahahaha!!!

Cohen, what's wrong with you??

You just gave a four year contract to a guy in the most important position in your organization who's NEVER done the job before, and who you just FIRED from a subordinate postion? Holy crap, where do I get my application to work for you?!?

This sounds wacky if you do it once. You've done it TWICE! Why do you keep firing people for incompetence and failure at one level and than re-hire those same people to supervise the position they were just fired from?? How did you ever become rich in the first place?

"Martin added that he has not yet contacted any candidate nor has one approached him." In other words, he's done nothing, and no one is interested in working with him and this loser franchise.

Well, with so much good work behind him, and with such "honorable" behavior at the end of the this season (deflecting 100% of the blame for missing the playoffs each of his three seasons by throwing his captain and star players under a bus; being wishy-washy and apathetic about his desire and intention to remain with the team)-- I can see why Cohen decided now was the opportune time to lock up this Jacqass for four more years.

Genius!

Yeah, cause th star captain played an amazingly thoroughout the whole season and full deserves to be nothing but praised in the papers! Martin had 2 jobs, he wastold to step away from one of them, I guess that never happens in the real world, right?

Oh yeah...by Olli'
s own admission he hadn't played up to his own par in some astounding number of games...75% it was?

Seriously, you deducted all that from Martin not contacting anyone? He's done nothing? Noone wants to work here, from all that? I guess you missed that there are 5 other open positions in the NHL and not one of them have been filled. Yeah, none o fthem are doing anything either, nor are they doing anything.
So far as "Noone wanting to work here," Quinn and Pearn have both said they'd like to work here, so has MacLean. Stop being so childish.

I say that Cohen has made a good decision. Martin now has the stability to build this team the way it should be built. Martin needs to bring on a good coach and the names he is considering contain some good prospects.

It will now be time for Martin to show that he knows how to build a winning hockey club. I think that Martin can do the job.

So I see this as a very positive move and I really look forward to next year's Panthers. When you watch the playoffs currently underway, especially when you watch Detroit, and see how Pittsburgh plays, you know that the Cats need a lot of improvement. But it can be done. GO CATS!

Cohen is pissing on season ticket holders (not me)...Red Baron was right !..but watch out he'll be more ..."apeasing " from now until 2013.

Numbers Guy wrote:

"Martin added that he has not yet contacted any candidate nor has one approached him." In other words, he's done nothing, and no one is interested in working with him and this loser franchise.
Well, with so much good work behind him, and with such "honorable" behavior at the end of the this season (deflecting 100% of the blame for missing the playoffs each of his three seasons by throwing his captain and star players under a bus; being wishy-washy and apathetic about his desire and intention to remain with the team)-- I can see why Cohen decided now was the opportune time to lock up this Jacqass for four more years.
Genius!

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Except the contract may read four years IF playoffs next year-in small print. The pride is a big thing with the frogs, so the titles of articles are for general public consumption (723s, etc...) The real problem is that Joe Quensville will be the next coach, a no name who destroyed even the Avalanche team of big players.

Bob69 wrote:

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Except the contract may read four years IF playoffs next year-in small print. The pride is a big thing with the frogs, so the titles of articles are for general public consumption (723s, etc...) The real problem is that Joe Quensville will be the next coach, a no name who destroyed even the Avalanche team of big players.

Quenneville's a no name coach? Hey, thanks for giving everyone your hockey resume' in one sentence. Add to it that he "detroyed the Avalanche" and we further have witness to your poor knowledge. The big players were injured most of the season. Sakic and Smith spent a long time on the IR and Foote and Forsberg didn't join the team until the trade deadline. He still managed to get that team into the SECOND ROUND of the playoffs.

Thanks for stopping by.

Realist723 and Louie... you can quit trying to polish the turd. Most posters realize by now you are either shills for the team, on Yormark's payroll or you just don't mind spending hard-earned money to watch depressing uninspiring downright awful hockey season after season.

I realize no one will ever convince you to see the situation any differently. However, can you at least concede that signing Martin until 2012 was an insane move? What happens if he screws the pooch next season (which he likely will)? Are we stuck with him for 5 years because Cohen will be too cheap to buy-out his contract? Why couldn't Cohen just sign Martin for 1 or 2 years and take it from there? Was it really necessary to retain the guy for half a decade??? I really think Cohen has lost his marbles. I don't EVER see this team getting any better under his ownership and this only hammers the point home. To sign an inexperienced GM who already performed poorly as the coach for another five years is pure insanity. Even if he was a fairly good GM (as you seem to think) any owner would want to exercise some caution on the length of the contract. I realize there are many fans riding on the "we must have stablity at all costs" bandwagon, but my question is stability of what? Sucking for another 5 seasons? I'd rather the team hit rock bottom like Tampa and Philly and re-stablize under someone that knows what they are doing. Instead we get to sit around for another half a decade of mediocrity and ineptitude while other teams worse than us pass us by. Guys, I'm telling you here and now. There will be no playoffs next season or the season thereafter. In fact, when this team misses playoffs AGAIN next season, please remember these words. Cohen made a very bad move. You may think it sounds great today, but it will come back to haunt us for seasons to come. Brace yourselves for more major disappointments, bad acquistions, botched trades, no shows, lost prospects, missed opportunities, overpaid slugs, ridiculous contracts, disgruntled players, poor selections, coach firings, finger-pointing, outlandish trades and worst of all missed playoffs. Like others have, you may label me a "non-fan", "jag-off", "idiot", "unknowledgable", use my moniker or whatever you can dream up to discredit me, but you know what I'm saying is on point.

All Florida Panther fans should be very upset with the choice/decision to keep Martin around as GM. This organization just does not get it. Fans are the ones who lose out on this ridiculous decision to keep Martin and have him here til 2013. We do have young good players, we do have an all-star calibar goalie and a terrific backup goalie. However, this team is cpmplacent, thinks that just making the playoffs would be a great achievement for next season. All of the players would be content with that. It's the mindset and mantra of Team Jacque Martin. I don't care who the hand picked coach is. These players don't respond to pressure, can't win big swing games, and ultimately the prime all-star years of a top goaltender in Vokoun will be wasted. Panther fans will be stuck in the mud and remain consistantly frustrated at this franchise because of these ludicrously bad organizational decisions it makes. The Miami Dolphins did the smart thing, they cleaned house and brought in a whole new regime to fix the mess. The Panthers should have and owed it to the fans to COMPLETELY get rid of Jacque Martin. His style DOES NOT work. The players do not respond in big games and ultimately this organization severely lacks confidence at all levels to truly compete. The only way this organization will pick itself up and the players will respond and change their approach and attitudes in important games is to bring in a entirely fresh new coaching team and a new GM and this organization blew it. Keep looking forward Panther fans to 8th through 13th place finishes these next several years. My last point: What does it say for a GM that having a coach in place is not his priority and he'll start his search in August. What a total joke!

I agree that this is a bad move, but mostly because of the long term.

The next problem is what most think - JM will pick a coach that thinks like him, which equals disaster.

Also, Charron and Kitchen will probably be a deal breaker because Dumbo will insist that these 2 remain as assistants. Or even worse - Head Coach.

The forwards need to have puck possession drilled into their head, and "dump and chase" coaches will obviously not do that.

No thanks to the LA asst. coach. He is not part of a winning team and therefore he is not welcome.

Quinn might be OK only because he has done well with the Junior Worlds.

Burns and Hartley have the discipline that is sorely needed.

Pick a coach that can work with the type and style of players we have now. Do not pick a coach that has to try and force these guys to play a style that they are incapable of playing (like the JM loser style).

JM should definitely meet with the available guys now and meet with the rest after their Cup run is over.

A coach must be in place by the draft, and especially before (July 1 UFA day)

Martin is here to stay let's support him,choose an intelligent coach,keep
Olli(even if not C.)stay out of the game and we will be in the playoff.

The Worlds are still playing. He can't talk to Burns until it is over. Once all the coaching candidates are free of their current jobs I would assume he will hold interviews. Quinn also took Van and Philly to the finals. Canucks lost in a game 7 to the Rangers. He hasn't won a cup but game 7 of the finals is better than some of the slugs applying for the job have done. Burns and Quinn would be at the top of my list. Charron and Kitchen wouldn't even be on it for assistants.

RED BARON wrote:

Realist723 and Louie... you can quit trying to polish the turd. Most posters realize by now you are either shills for the team, on Yormark's payroll or you just don't mind spending hard-earned money to watch depressing uninspiring downright awful hockey season after season.
I realize no one will ever convince you to see the situation any differently. However, can you at least concede that signing Martin until 2012 was an insane move? What happens if he screws the pooch next season (which he likely will)? Are we stuck with him for 5 years because Cohen will be too cheap to buy-out his contract? Why couldn't Cohen just sign Martin for 1 or 2 years and take it from there? Was it really necessary to retain the guy for half a decade??? I really think Cohen has lost his marbles. I don't EVER see this team getting any better under his ownership and this only hammers the point home. To sign an inexperienced GM who already performed poorly as the coach for another five years is pure insanity. Even if he was a fairly good GM (as you seem to think) any owner would want to exercise some caution on the length of the contract. I realize there are many fans riding on the "we must have stablity at all costs" bandwagon, but my question is stability of what? Sucking for another 5 seasons? I'd rather the team hit rock bottom like Tampa and Philly and re-stablize under someone that knows what they are doing. Instead we get to sit around for another half a decade of mediocrity and ineptitude while other teams worse than us pass us by. Guys, I'm telling you here and now. There will be no playoffs next season or the season thereafter. In fact, when this team misses playoffs AGAIN next season, please remember these words. Cohen made a very bad move. You may think it sounds great today, but it will come back to haunt us for seasons to come. Brace yourselves for more major disappointments, bad acquistions, botched trades, no shows, lost prospects, missed opportunities, overpaid slugs, ridiculous contracts, disgruntled players, poor selections, coach firings, finger-pointing, outlandish trades and worst of all missed playoffs. Like others have, you may label me a "non-fan", "jag-off", "idiot", "unknowledgable", use my moniker or whatever you can dream up to discredit me, but you know what I'm saying is on point.

Oh, so your wise and in-depth analysis now determines that a person who supports the team and likes to watch hockey is a "shill" or "on the payroll", etc. Actually, I like to refer to such people as "true fans", as opposed to a "fair weather fan" like youself. You seem to be one of those people who like to criticize and complain incessantly. Do you live in one of those condos where they don't allow kids or pets and the neighbors always complain on each other? If not, you would really fit in perfectly there.

I love hockey. I want the Panthers to win. But, even when they don't win, I like to watch the game. I like to watch great players come into our building (which is a great place to watch hockey) and play at the top of their game. And if the Panthers don't make the playoffs, I like to watch who does, such as Detroit or Pittsburgh, two teams playing incredible hockey right now.

So, you see, it is not all about the Panthers making the playoffs. Do I want them to make it? yes. Do I whine and complain and surround myself in negativity like you if they don't? no.

Martin as GM for a long-term contract IS a good move, despite your negative whining. I am positive on the Cats---I think they will be in teh playoffs within the next 3 years. It's much more enjoyable being positve, you should try it some time.

RED BARON wrote:

Realist723 and Louie... you can quit trying to polish the turd. Most posters realize by now you are either shills for the team, on Yormark's payroll or you just don't mind spending hard-earned money to watch depressing uninspiring downright awful hockey season after season.
I realize no one will ever convince you to see the situation any differently. However, can you at least concede that signing Martin until 2012 was an insane move? What happens if he screws the pooch next season (which he likely will)? Are we stuck with him for 5 years because Cohen will be too cheap to buy-out his contract? Why couldn't Cohen just sign Martin for 1 or 2 years and take it from there? Was it really necessary to retain the guy for half a decade??? I really think Cohen has lost his marbles. I don't EVER see this team getting any better under his ownership and this only hammers the point home. To sign an inexperienced GM who already performed poorly as the coach for another five years is pure insanity. Even if he was a fairly good GM (as you seem to think) any owner would want to exercise some caution on the length of the contract. I realize there are many fans riding on the "we must have stablity at all costs" bandwagon, but my question is stability of what? Sucking for another 5 seasons? I'd rather the team hit rock bottom like Tampa and Philly and re-stablize under someone that knows what they are doing. Instead we get to sit around for another half a decade of mediocrity and ineptitude while other teams worse than us pass us by. Guys, I'm telling you here and now. There will be no playoffs next season or the season thereafter. In fact, when this team misses playoffs AGAIN next season, please remember these words. Cohen made a very bad move. You may think it sounds great today, but it will come back to haunt us for seasons to come. Brace yourselves for more major disappointments, bad acquistions, botched trades, no shows, lost prospects, missed opportunities, overpaid slugs, ridiculous contracts, disgruntled players, poor selections, coach firings, finger-pointing, outlandish trades and worst of all missed playoffs. Like others have, you may label me a "non-fan", "jag-off", "idiot", "unknowledgable", use my moniker or whatever you can dream up to discredit me, but you know what I'm saying is on point.

No, it's not. You're hockey knowledge has taken a hit in your knock on Frolik and it has again in that you think TBL will improve over Florida. I guess We'll see what Stamkos can bring, but they've got deeper issues. Drafting him because your organization has been crap for years due to your horrendous contracts handed out doesn't prove anything, it just shows your smart enough to take a phenom.
Your run up there on everything we can expect is off kilter and short sighted. You really do run with the negative.
What does his inability as coach have to do with him as GM? How many GMs across the league, especialy the great ones, would be great coaches? Find more basis than that, please.

oh, and I HAVE to work for the organization (as if they give the slightest rip what's said on this board of all places) or am a "shill" since I'm positive and like Jacques, huh?

LOL, I AM JACQUES!

Gimme a break.