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A return to NFL by Michael Vick supported by many players

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DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:
All still true. Many support Mike Vick's return.
And many don't.
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Vick era is over wrote:
http://www.oleantimesherald.co m/articles/2009/06/15/sports/d oc4a369959b4c2e865454753.txt
As a player, you’d laugh at your boss if you got fined for skipping a film session.
And as a fan, you’d revoke your season tickets. Vick’s name is tainted for a reason.
Not even the witty marketing team at Geico could spin this signing into a positive.
Vick’s crime was too raw and too public for the Joe Fan to embrace.
Even beyond the moral dilemma, the game has changed over the past few years. There is a less and less demand for running quarterbacks. The rapid evolution of two-back systems and West Coast-offense hybrids has marginalized the run-first quarterback. It’s why Vince Young was ousted by 36-year old Kerry Collins. It’s why the Minnesota Vikings are doing everything in their power - signing Sage Rosenfels, recruiting Brett Favre - to not start Tarvaris Jackson. And it’s why former-No. 1 pick Alex Smith is battling with...drum roll, please...Shaun Hill in San Francisco.
The demand for cerebral quarterbacks capable of dissecting a defense is higher than ever.
Vick failed to throw for 3,000 yards - hardly a milestone - in each of his six years with the Falcons. For all of his herculean arm strength, he has the accuracy of Shaq at the foul line. Every pass is a laser. No touch, no precision. Through his entire career, Vick never matured as a passer. Atlanta kept drafting receivers like Roddy White and Michael Jenkins, but Vick never figured it out. In one season, Matt Ryan did. Vick’s replacement threw for 3,440 yards and 16 touchdowns to key an improbable run to the playoffs last season.
Never been to the slammer myself, but something tells me one year in prison didn’t exactly do wonders for Vick’s passing ability.“The Longest Yard” was a movie, not real life. At best, Vick is a faster Kordell Stewart at this point.
And please, save the ‘slash’ plea. Everyone these days thinks freakish athletes will erupt into gimmicky ‘slash’ roles, where they can bob ‘n weave through defenses off pitches, hitches and other Ringling Brother quirks. Doodling Vick into X ‘n Os on paper sure can raise a coach’s adrenaline. But saying that Vick will electrify an offense in a ‘Wildcat’ type of offense is wishful thinking.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-to-hsus-a...
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Jun 24, 2009
 
Pleasure Beach Lover wrote:
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And many don't.
No we don't.
But Brokenwing and Julia send their regards to the people that cared for them. Julia is the pitbull adopted from this forum between two posters.
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"We" ... is plural

You only get to speak for yourself
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RATING CHICK STRIKES AGAIN!
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The number of people supporting Vick's return has increased. If 65% approve, let's take a look at the other 35%. Probably a good 75% of those 35% folks have never even been to a football game; they don't buy sponsored products; or don't buy enough to impact the Sponsors, so there is a very small majority who will ever have an impact on the NFL or its sponsors.

What you read here is the greatest extent of their effort - that is, to be keyboard commandos who sit day after day spewing hatred and insults at people with differing opinions.

What is worse is probably 90% of that 35% don't even bother to financially support animal shelters, or animal rights causes and they do NOTHING at all for these animals in person. They ALL TALK AND NO ACTION. They don't even matter.

Haters - when is the last time you even donated a dime to an animal rights agency?

Z E R O! Yeah, that's what I thought..........

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Haters - when is the last time you donated a dime to an animal rights agency?

Z E R O! Yeah, that's what I thought......

hahahaha you don't know very much about animal lovers.

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Jun 26, 2009
 
DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:
The number of people supporting Vick's return has increased. If 65% approve, let's take a look at the other 35%. Probably a good 75% of those 35% folks have never even been to a football game; they don't buy sponsored products; or don't buy enough to impact the Sponsors, so there is a very small majority who will ever have an impact on the NFL or its sponsors.
What you read here is the greatest extent of their effort - that is, to be keyboard commandos who sit day after day spewing hatred and insults at people with differing opinions.
What is worse is probably 90% of that 35% don't even bother to financially support animal shelters, or animal rights causes and they do NOTHING at all for these animals in person. They ALL TALK AND NO ACTION. They don't even matter.
Haters - when is the last time you even donated a dime to an animal rights agency?
Z E R O! Yeah, that's what I thought..........
I belong to the ASPCA, Humane Society, PETA, and make occasional
donations to the Doris Day Animal League.
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He has paid the debt to society,let him play and the team who will have guts to sign him will be better off for it.
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Like Pound said, Pete Rose is a different case because he was banned from baseball for betting on teams while managing the Reds. He was "permanently ineligible" because he broke baseball's rules, not because what he did was particularly heinous. Now, I don't support dog fighting at all, but Vick has served 23 months, and has done his time. Donte Stallworth can drive drunk, kill a man, and only serve 1 month. Why aren't you crying about him?

In any case, the NFL never claims to be a league of saints. It's not the NFL's duty to punish its players for crimes unrelated to football. That duty belongs to our justice system.

Vick has fallen so low from where he was before. He's learned his lesson; he won't be doing anything like this again, so why not let him play? Give him a second chance.

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Jul 18, 2009
 
Montag wrote:
Like Pound said, Pete Rose is a different case because he was banned from baseball for betting on teams while managing the Reds. He was "permanently ineligible" because he broke baseball's rules, not because what he did was particularly heinous.
And the dog killer "broke the rules" also genius. Do yourself a favor and look up the NFL player's personal conduct policy. His crimes violated this policy in several ways. If Goodell wants to ban this felon, he is completely justified. It will all boil down to what type of example he wants to set and what he thinks the public's response will be to whatever decision he makes.
Montag wrote:
Donte Stallworth can drive drunk, kill a man, and only serve 1 month. Why aren't you crying about him?
Well, this is just a guess but it's probably because this is the mv forum. Not only that but Stallworth didn't intentionally and purposesfully set out to harm or kill anyone or anything. Can you say that about the maggot vick? No, I didn't think so.
Montag wrote:
It's not the NFL's duty to punish its players for crimes unrelated to football. That duty belongs to our justice system.
No, but it is the NFL's duty to enforce that pesky player's personal conduct policy. Again, educate yourself and read up on it.

Montag wrote:
Vick has fallen so low from where he was before. He's learned his lesson; he won't be doing anything like this again, so why not let him play? Give him a second chance.
Re: the fallen part, all I can say is SWEET. No one deserves to have lost what the dog killer did more than him. His perversions were sadistic, inhumane, and repugnant. He deserved every bit of punishment he received and more.

Re: the "learned his lesson" part, dude, are you the great Karnack or an omniscient seer who knows all? The things the dog killer has gone through since his sadistic little hobby was uncovered weren't mean to rehabilitate his degeneracy, they were intended to punish him.

The only lesson the dog killer has learned is that it is a biotch to let the world know just how sick and twisted his little entertainment was. He's learned that he should have taken more effort to hide his perverted little dog fighting operation from hell. He's learned that the majority of the public thinks he is a POS for gruesomely killing and torturing innocent animals.

As for morals, character, and integrity........he can't even spell those much less know what they mean.
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USA ROCKS wrote:
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And the dog killer "broke the rules" also genius. Do yourself a favor and look up the NFL player's personal conduct policy. His crimes violated this policy in several ways. If Goodell wants to ban this felon, he is completely justified. It will all boil down to what type of example he wants to set and what he thinks the public's response will be to whatever decision he makes.
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Well, this is just a guess but it's probably because this is the mv forum. Not only that but Stallworth didn't intentionally and purposesfully set out to harm or kill anyone or anything. Can you say that about the maggot vick? No, I didn't think so.
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No, but it is the NFL's duty to enforce that pesky player's personal conduct policy. Again, educate yourself and read up on it.
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Re: the fallen part, all I can say is SWEET. No one deserves to have lost what the dog killer did more than him. His perversions were sadistic, inhumane, and repugnant. He deserved every bit of punishment he received and more.
Re: the "learned his lesson" part, dude, are you the great Karnack or an omniscient seer who knows all? The things the dog killer has gone through since his sadistic little hobby was uncovered weren't mean to rehabilitate his degeneracy, they were intended to punish him.
The only lesson the dog killer has learned is that it is a biotch to let the world know just how sick and twisted his little entertainment was. He's learned that he should have taken more effort to hide his perverted little dog fighting operation from hell. He's learned that the majority of the public thinks he is a POS for gruesomely killing and torturing innocent animals.
As for morals, character, and integrity........he can't even spell those much less know what they mean.
the ray of light has arrived!
You know who Montag is?What it do

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Rachael wrote:
<quoted text>the ray of light has arrived!
You know who Montag is?What it do
Hmmmmm, I'm not sure DOWHATSHEDO2HERSELF is smart enough to figure out how to create another identity.

In any event, it would be futile. Her manlove for the maggot vick would give her away every time.

Well, that and her hypocrisy for which she is so well known.

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DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:
"We" ... is plural
You only get to speak for yourself
Does anyone else see the humor in the above post?

Look at the poster's name and then take note that she is giving lessons in grammar.

Too funny!

BTW, "we" means the majority of the public. Most people do not want the dog killer back in the NFL. Unbiased, credible polls have proven it time and time again.
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Hmmmmm, I'm not sure DOWHATSHEDO2HERSELF is smart enough to figure out how to create another identity.
In any event, it would be futile. Her manlove for the maggot vick would give her away every time.
Well, that and her hypocrisy for which she is so well known.
LOL
and ditto,papi

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I think Dowhat is looking for you USA. She needs her daily fix of "whoop ass" from you or she gets a little grouchy.

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USA ROCKS wrote:
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And the dog killer "broke the rules" also genius. Do yourself a favor and look up the NFL player's personal conduct policy. His crimes violated this policy in several ways. If Goodell wants to ban this felon, he is completely justified. It will all boil down to what type of example he wants to set and what he thinks the public's response will be to whatever decision he makes.
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Well, this is just a guess but it's probably because this is the mv forum. Not only that but Stallworth didn't intentionally and purposesfully set out to harm or kill anyone or anything. Can you say that about the maggot vick? No, I didn't think so.
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No, but it is the NFL's duty to enforce that pesky player's personal conduct policy. Again, educate yourself and read up on it.
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Re: the fallen part, all I can say is SWEET. No one deserves to have lost what the dog killer did more than him. His perversions were sadistic, inhumane, and repugnant. He deserved every bit of punishment he received and more.
Re: the "learned his lesson" part, dude, are you the great Karnack or an omniscient seer who knows all? The things the dog killer has gone through since his sadistic little hobby was uncovered weren't mean to rehabilitate his degeneracy, they were intended to punish him.
The only lesson the dog killer has learned is that it is a biotch to let the world know just how sick and twisted his little entertainment was. He's learned that he should have taken more effort to hide his perverted little dog fighting operation from hell. He's learned that the majority of the public thinks he is a POS for gruesomely killing and torturing innocent animals.
As for morals, character, and integrity........he can't even spell those much less know what they mean.
Excellent post!!!

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I think Dowhat is looking for you USA. She needs her daily fix of "whoop ass" from you or she gets a little grouchy.
Funny Barbara. Have you noticed that DOWHATSHEDO2HERSELF tends not to post unless she knows that some of her fellow "sniffers" are on line? She is intimidated when she knows she is the only one expressing manlove for the maggot dog killer and the only other posters on line are normal people.

I imagine she is absolutely heart broken that little preston and scotty haven't been around.

Sniffers tend to exhibit a "gang mentality". I wonder why that is.

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USA ROCKS wrote:
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Funny Barbara. Have you noticed that DOWHATSHEDO2HERSELF tends not to post unless she knows that some of her fellow "sniffers" are on line? She is intimidated when she knows she is the only one expressing manlove for the maggot dog killer and the only other posters on line are normal people.
I imagine she is absolutely heart broken that little preston and scotty haven't been around.
Sniffers tend to exhibit a "gang mentality". I wonder why that is.
But it doesn't take her long to find YOU. She likes to call some of us your "stable" but we don't mind because some of us are your biggest fans.
Wonder what happened to Scotty and Preston?
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USA ROCKS wrote:
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Funny Barbara. Have you noticed that DOWHATSHEDO2HERSELF tends not to post unless she knows that some of her fellow "sniffers" are on line? She is intimidated when she knows she is the only one expressing manlove for the maggot dog killer and the only other posters on line are normal people.
I imagine she is absolutely heart broken that little preston and scotty haven't been around.
Sniffers tend to exhibit a "gang mentality". I wonder why that is.
Which is why I hope we stick together! I try not to respond. the Internet is a tool for the info about banning Vick and providing info for dogfighting.
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