Obama didn't give himself the peace prize

Wow Jack!, your comments are quite refreshing. They are informative;leaving the opinions to your reader-rather than injecting jolting remarks of your own.

You are correct in your Obama statement- he didn't give himself the peace prize.! What more can be added to this; other than .."think about it"?

Hats off to your professionalism and dignity!

"The insurance industry issued a report that promises to increase premiums by 111 percent under health reform"

The report cited the study that they had hired the accounting firm Price Waterhouse Cooper to do. The firm has just admitted that the cost savings from health reform were purposely left out of the study to produce the skewed result that the insurance industry wanted. This basic dishonesty illuminates the overall dishonesty of the insurance industry and those arguing against health reform from a supposedly expert viewpoint. They will say anything, conjure up any falsehood and raise any fear to keep their spoils. They are crooked, and their "spokesmen" on Fox news are liars, paid for by the profiteers that are using your health care Premium dollars against you. This article documents the crooked "study", and the admission and disclaimer .by Price Waterhouse Cooper of its purposely omitting the cost savings to produce a false conclusion.

Accounting Firm Admits Cost Savings Left Out Of Report Prepared For AHIP Report
Christina Bellantoni

Accounting giant PricewaterhouseCoopers has issued a statement about the audit it performed for America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP) that we have been following closely.

Most notable about the statement, issued late last night, is an acknowledgment the cost savings from the bill weren't included, though PWC points out that is noted on page one of the report.

America's Health Insurance Plans engaged PricewaterhouseCoopers to prepare a report that focused on four components of the Senate Finance Committee proposal:
*Insurance market reforms and consumer protections that would raise health insurance premiums for individuals and families if the reforms are not coupled with an effective coverage requirement.
*An excise tax on employer-sponsored high value health plans.
*Cuts in payment rates in public programs that could increase cost shifting to private sector businesses and consumers.
*New taxes on health sector entities.

The analysis concluded that collectively the four provisions would raise premiums for private health insurance coverage. As the report itself acknowledges, other provisions that are part of health reform proposals were not included in the PwC analysis. The report stated on page 1:

"The reform packages under consideration have other provisions that we have not included in this analysis. We have not estimated the impact of the new subsidies on the net insurance cost to households. Also, if other provisions in health care reform are successful in lowering costs over the long term, those improvements would offset some of the impacts we have estimated."

Jamie-Kinda like left wing grops cheering for us to loose in Iraq uh?

Citzen 2000 wrote:

Jamie-Kinda like left wing grops cheering for us to loose in Iraq uh?

Remind me of the evidence that any left wing groups were ever cheeing for us to "loose" in Iraq. I never saw any clips of that, nor did I ever talk to anyone on the left who wanted us to "loose" in Iraq, or "lose," either, though once it was proven there were no WMDs there, and no reason to have gone to war, it was kind of hard to figure out what winning was supposed to be, and what, besides oil, we might win if we did win.

OBAMA’S NOBEL PRIZE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PEACE – IT’S ABOUT “COPENHAGEN�

Obama’s upcoming acceptance of the Nobel Peace Prize and the invisible strings attached to it, may prove to be an enormously expensive exercise for all taxpayers on this continent. The “Copenhagen� supporters on the Nobel Committee, on the other hand, are counting on it.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2009/10/o...

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To those who say Obama hasn't done anything or, at least "enough" to warrant the prize, I suggest checking the record.

Let's say a private citizen had the attention of his entire large country and spoke convincingly about racial harmony [a metaphor for cultural harmony in much of the rest of the world]. And traveled to a European capital and spoke about peace and international cooperation to a throng of rapt 200,000 listeners. And traveled to an African capital to speak about peace and collaboration between Muslims, Jews and Christians. And was an opinion maker among world leaders. His efforts would be notable and laudable; but single private citizens need accomplishments to reinforce their words and show their words have traction and can lead to deeds.

Now make that private citizen instead, the president of a powerful country. A leader who can make things happen with a nod that private citizens can only dream. Who can by his mere words convince followers into action. The potential is breathtaking. THAT is why President Obama -- by his words alone in this past year [even before becoming president]-- is the most potent force for international peace in decades. THAT is why he with his words -- and the reasonable promise of actions by himself and others -- is the worthy recipient of the Peace Prize.

Most individuals require peace results to be serious contenders for the Prize. Presidents of nations are worthy candidates with words that inspire peace within and outside their borders. The power for peace through words [and war, as we have seen] is much greater for an American president than for one from South Korea [2000], East Timor [1996], Israel & Palestine [1994], South Africa [1993], USSR [1990], Costa Rica [1987] or Israel & Egypt [1978]. THAT is why President Barack Obama is a worthy recipient of the 2009 Nobel Prize for Peace.

Beautifully said, Rick Closson.

We Americans should be proud he received this award. Instead we gripe & moan about it. There are many who should hide their heads in shame for their pettiness& jealousy. Too bad, they will never accomplish anything of this degree.

Rick Closson wrote:

THAT is why President Barack Obama is a worthy recipient of the 2009 Nobel Prize for Peace.

He's done about as much for peace as his fellow Nobel Peace prize winner Al Gore. The Nobel Peace prize has become a joke, it is nothing more than an award for having the same politics as those who hand out the award.

Bono, who I am not a fan of, or Bob Geldof have both done more for peace in the world than Obama has or most likely will. George W Bush has done more for world peace than Obama.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Brad II wrote:

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He's done about as much for peace as his fellow Nobel Peace prize winner Al Gore.

Bono, who I am not a fan of, or Bob Geldof have both done more for peace in the world than Obama has or most likely will. George W Bush has done more for world peace than Obama.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Do ya thank Yessir Airisfat did as much fir whirld peas than Obama?

Buford wrote:

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Do ya thank Yessir Airisfat did as much fir whirld peas than Obama?

You know I think that Osama bin Laden has done as much for peace as Arafat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

I don’t agree with Hitchens on all points but when he makes sense he certainly puts it eloquently.

Underqualified for the Overrated.

“We thus find ourselves in a rather peculiar universe where good intentions are rewarded before they have undergone the strenuous metamorphosis of being translated into good deeds, or hard facts. And it becomes increasingly difficult to avoid entertaining the suspicion that there is something explicitly political in the underlying process of Nobelista decision making. I do not think that I am shying at shadows here, either. Especially of late, the literature awards, on which I am more qualified to pronounce, have reflected the same or a similar mentality. The choices of an Italian anarchist, an Austrian Stalinist, a Portuguese Stalinist, and the hysterical anti-American Harold Pinter are or should be fresh in our minds, and we might remember that this is a Nobel committee that let Vladimir Nabokov and Jorge Luis Borges go to their graves unrecognized.
Perhaps not coincidentally, the choice of ex-president Jimmy Carter for the peace prize in 2002 was accompanied by statements from Oslo that said outright that he was being rewarded for his opposition to the foreign policy of an elected sitting president of the United States.(On that basis, Carter could have been given the prize for writing to Arab heads of state in 1991, urging them not to join the coalition against Saddam Hussein's invasion of Kuwait: an act of lawless annexation that involved the actual obliteration of a member state of the United Nations and the Arab League. Again, I find it difficult to imagine a Republican ex-president being honored in such a way for publicly undermining one of his successors.)”

http://www.newsweek.com/id/217107

There, there now, cuz, don't you feel better after trashing the president of the United States by giving us a long quote from youtube and Newsweek? I feel so much better informed after reading your contribution to a dead subject.(Well, I didn't actually read it all but enough to know you never took my advice about curling up with a good book when you are in a lousy mood.)

I would assume over half of what Brad ll posts he copies from others articles. He doesn't realise many do a lot of research.

copycat wrote:

I would assume over half of what Brad ll posts he copies from others articles. He doesn't realise many do a lot of research.

You are right in that I do post information from other articles that I do find interesting. I also post the links for those aritcles in case anyone has an interest in reading the entire article. I don't realize what? I do realize that many of the articles I read or reference are researched thouroughly.

The only “peace award” Obama should get is his contribution of making a peace of America communism under his watch. He should share it with his liberal staff for helping him as he already is sharing the wealth by taking from the working class and distributing it to his voting block with most of it going to acorn. This has got to be the most corrupt administration ever to sneak into the whitehouse.

No Future wrote:

This has got to be the most corrupt administration ever to sneak into the whitehouse.

You've GOT to be kidding! How can your hatred of someone who is relevant in the present be so strong as to melt your brain into forgetting the previous 8 years? Most corrupt administration ever? To "sneak" in? Again--I refer you to our president of the 8 previous years. You are friggin' nuts.

No Future wrote:

The only “peace award” Obama should get is his contribution of making a peace of America communism under his watch. He should share it with his liberal staff for helping him as he already is sharing the wealth by taking from the working class and distributing it to his voting block with most of it going to acorn. This has got to be the most corrupt administration ever to sneak into the whitehouse.

And who says racism isn't alive and well in the hinterland! Didn't take much for "No Future" to regurgitate what he's been fed by Fox. Howthehell does one "sneak" into the whitehouse during or after an election? It's easy to see why this poster has No Future!

It's good that one of our own Island boys made it big - we're all Ohana (family).
Now where's my check?

Jack....maybe the conservative groups are right about Obama. Two points:
1. The board that selects the Nobel Prize meets early in the year, certainly not giving the President enough time to make any of his "changes" (most of his promises for change are a flop, just look at how he is turning on health care)
2. Does our country really need the Olympics. We have taken so many loans that our country is not ours anymore. Foreign banks own it. Maybe instead of trying to force a biased Olympic agenda to change the city of Chicago, the leaders of the city need to just do it. Why does it take a world event for our cities to fix themselves...oh, yeah, Federal funding. Sounds like the President was trying to sell more of our country to the Chinese

'W' killed our country.

Obama's just nailing the coffin shut.

The Nobel Prize was voted on back in February. President Obama was inaugurated January what, the 22nd?

Am I proud our President won? Sure.

Did he deserve it? Hmmm...