Bring Back Gruden

RAIDER MISTERIO OG wrote:

<quoted text>i was all excited to have shell back. the public did not want him for the most part. and players did not give it the chance. but i do have to say that i think he should have found another coach other than the bed and breakfast guy. right now if gruden cable and shell maybe a couple of x players like lionel washington even r gannon would help as asistant coaches. it would help to get the RAIDERS back to square one in a hurry! but all seems a little far from happening. but somethings gotta be done. like you said, i don't think players are buying into the system. i was all for cable at the end of last season. i started to believe in cable because he believed in putting points into the endzone inside the red zone but like every year,"the O-line" needs fixin' i back up cable, but only as long as he is coaching the RAIDERS. cable is RAIDERS to the heart but players aren't believing in the system. GRUDEN!!!!!
GO RAIDERS "just win baby"

Art Shell for GM
Jon Gruden for Head coach/offensive coordinator
Tom Cable for OL coach
Rich Gannon for QB coach
Tim Brown for WR coach
Tom Rathman back for RB coach
I like our defensive staff as it is

TexasRaider wrote:

<quoted text>
Art Shell for GM
Jon Gruden for Head coach/offensive coordinator
Tom Cable for OL coach
Rich Gannon for QB coach
Tim Brown for WR coach
Tom Rathman back for RB coach
I like our defensive staff as it is

perfect!
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RAIDER MISTERIO OG wrote:

what did happen to that GM, that mr al davis, said he supposedly had in plan? i bet it was parcells and he got caught up in miami. if it was john madden, well, he would have been anounced already. unless it's, who?
GO RAIDERS "commitment to excellence"

Al Davis ain't gonna bring in no GM...No GM in his right mind will work for Al Davis...He barely lets the head coach do his job...Drafts a QB anyways even though the HC (Kiffin) says ain't worth a damn...Then 2 years later the HC (Cable) says a pass dropping WR instantly makes us a better football team (the same thing the HC (Kiffin) said the previous year about the first round pick) because he has the fastest 40 time, he's a hard worker, and he came from a pro style offense. His college team was probably run first because of him dropping passes...I haven't seen McFadden or DHB make us a better football team yet...I wonder if Al Davis forced them to say that even though Kiffin showed high optimism over McFadden; Cable didn't sound too optimistic about DHB, he just sounded like he was saying what Al Davis wanted him to say. And after the Raider selcted DHB, Jon Gruden said it best when he said "I can tell you guys right now from first hand experience that Al Davis don't give a damn what any of us think."

UK Steve wrote:

http://raiderbeat.com/?p=5585
I'm dreaming this might happen .. come Uncle Al, small dose of humble pie and then let them do it
:-)

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

UK Steve wrote:

I think players of the modern era will play for a coach they respect, a coach they like and a coach that can get them to win. Any one or mix of all those three reasons.
In Gruden's case He's won the Super Bowl and I get the feeling the players like him and will play hard for him.
Also, I think Davis would re-hire him and Gruden would stipulate that Allen or defiantely a GM comes in too which seems to be sorely needed.
We'll see .. in all honestly I doubt it will happen. Gruden will be somewhere like Washington by the time Davis fires Cable (if He's going to) so he may not even be available to hire

It may not happen, but it is not farfetched either. It seems that Davis/Gruden/Allen do not dislike each other or the way the Raiders do business and that is significant. The issue is timing as it seems Cable is doing everything that Davis would want in a coach except to fill the stadium. Gruden would fill the stadium.

Raider_Faith wrote:

I am kind of torn on this...First I just have a hard time believing Gruden would come back...second...just because he comes back doesn't mean he will have the same success....on the other side...He may be just what the doctor ordered. I get the impression the team isn't buying what cable is selling..at least not consistently...I hate to say it and I know it probably wouldn't work in this era of primadonna's...but we need and Art Shell type to enforce discipline. A hard nose coach that doesn't put up with BS.. I think Art Shell would have done well last go round if we didn't have all those primaddonna's. I like hard nose football. <quoted text>

I am not a big fan of Shell as a coach. Shell biggest asset was that he understood the Raider-way. Right now, Cable understands the Raider-way so it is a push and is much better teacher and motivator than Shell. Plus Cable is more articulate with the media and fans.

TexasRaider wrote:

<quoted text>
Art Shell for GM
Jon Gruden for Head coach/offensive coordinator
Tom Cable for OL coach
Rich Gannon for QB coach
Tim Brown for WR coach
Tom Rathman back for RB coach
I like our defensive staff as it is

I like the idea of Shell having a role with the Raiders. I am not sure GM or head coach is that role. I believe the GM position is too sophisticated for most ex-players. I could see Shell as a high-ranking advisor in terms of personnel.

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Freddy wrote:

<quoted text>I like the idea of Shell having a role with the Raiders. I am not sure GM or head coach is that role. I believe the GM position is too sophisticated for most ex-players. I could see Shell as a high-ranking advisor in terms of personnel.

I suggested Art Shell for that role because he was the Vice President of football operations for the NFL prior to returning to the Raiders as head coach, so he's got experience in upper level management.

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Mr Davis, if you're reading this please please please bring back John Gruden before He get's picked up by someone else and let the guy run the team his way and start getting this thing turned around.
At least you'll start getting the fans back in the colesium.

I lost all respect fro Cable when he admitting hitting his wife...we need a new coach...I can't stand scum bags!

UK Steve wrote:

Mr Davis, if you're reading this please please please bring back John Gruden before He get's picked up by someone else and let the guy run the team his way and start getting this thing turned around.
At least you'll start getting the fans back in the colesium.

Raider_Faith wrote:

I lost all respect fro Cable when he admitting hitting his wife...we need a new coach...I can't stand scum bags!<quoted text>

It's unclear how the Raider-Brass will handle this latest development. However, if they decide to make a change, I hope they hire Gruden (I agree with UK Steve).

Freddy wrote:

<quoted text>It's unclear how the Raider-Brass will handle this latest development. However, if they decide to make a change, I hope they hire Gruden (I agree with UK Steve).

I dont care if they go 8 & 8 the next 2/3 years as long as Gruden's at the helm. He's got Raider's stamped all over him (us against the world attitude), He's great character & the 'chucky' gag never gets old for me .. lol

Freddy wrote:

<quoted text>It's unclear how the Raider-Brass will handle this latest development. However, if they decide to make a change, I hope they hire Gruden (I agree with UK Steve).

Gruden will never go back to the raiders and a management staff best suited for portraying a comedic horror film on how not to manage anything.

Loki wrote:

<quoted text>
Gruden will never go back to the raiders and a management staff best suited for portraying a comedic horror film on how not to manage anything.

HEY, thats funny, we never thought your cheatriots would make it either and look at them now? we had our turn already. now we gotta fix it. it's all good! SOMEDAY!=)
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RAIDER MISTERIO OG wrote:

<quoted text>perfect!
"COMMITMENT TO EXCELLENCE"

perfect would be if gruden came back to oakland but, he seems to be enjoing monday night football! actually, he is pretty good at it. he may just want to stay there. he has no ties anywhere and he is starting to lose the chucky look! well, maybe not, but if he stays longer there, he may just lose the coahing thang! RAIDERS may just have to look elsewhere if cable does not come through in the second half of the season.
GO RAIDERS!!!! "JUST WIN BABY"

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