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Good Grief
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Can we get a real athlete that our children can look up to as a role model? There are so many better choices out there to choose from.. Vick has stated he has no regrets.. NONE other than he wished his prison term was shorter??? WTH?? So he doesn't regret torturing innocent animals? Is Tom Bundy his Hero or something? And those that say he did his time get over it.. he did NOT do any time for Animal Cruelty, he has showed no REMORSE..He is not SORRY.. he has paid the Humane Society $50,000 to back him because the ASPCA didn't want anything to do with his sorry butt...he tortured those dogs and laughed while doing it..this is why we are so ANGRY!!
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LOL
Saint Augustine, FL
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Bulk up with........
DOG MEAT Vitamins !!!!!!
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Marie
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Wow he is such a role model isn't he! Dog Meat vitamins is right! These organizations must be pathetic that they can't find anyone to represent them. Never heard of this company anyhow, probably used them to bulk his fighting dogs up.
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Shadoz
United States
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Leah
Blaine, KY
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I hear Nike's new shoe for Vick will be called "THUGS". Will hm..hm..'sell' out fast.LOL!
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Shadoz wrote: Ahhh the Convick the Convick is still ignorant......#1 FELON
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Wow, no wonder they asked Vick to promote their product. They are denver-based. Denver doesn't allow pit bulls. Hmmmmm....
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Shadoz wrote: Ahhh. I am replying to SOS who uses my screen name and this is what I have to say to her Believe me, when I insult you, it is completely intentional CLOWN
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Good Grief wrote: Can we get a real athlete that our children can look up to as a role model? There are so many better choices out there to choose from.. Vick has stated he has no regrets.. NONE other than he wished his prison term was shorter??? WTH?? So he doesn't regret torturing innocent animals? Is Tom Bundy his Hero or something? And those that say he did his time get over it.. he did NOT do any time for Animal Cruelty, he has showed no REMORSE..He is not SORRY.. he has paid the Humane Society $50,000 to back him because the ASPCA didn't want anything to do with his sorry butt...he tortured those dogs and laughed while doing it..this is why we are so ANGRY!! Be a real parent and raise your kids YOURSELF. Mike Vick paid dearly for his crimes. This is America, you pay your debt to society and you move on. You need to move on and raise your kids to understand that an athlete is not responsible for how they turn out. That cop out has been around for too long. Your anger should would be better served by becoming an ACTIVE member of the ASPCA!
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ex-pert
Seattle, WA
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Should I reciprocate and call you names !? Does name calling REALLY work, in your racist world !?? You realize YOU'RE the racist ? Loved YOU wrote this ! "The enemy is also White. Always has been, always will be." Seems like we've just figured YOU OUT ! LMAOROTF !
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“Merry Chrismas Jasmine ”
Since: Apr 11
What else is a snake to eat?
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ex-pert wrote: Should I reciprocate and call you names !? Does name calling REALLY work, in your racist world !?? You realize YOU'RE the racist ? Loved YOU wrote this ! "The enemy is also White. Always has been, always will be." Seems like we've just figured YOU OUT ! LMAOROTF ! YEAH ! WHINE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE CALLING PEOPLE NAMES ! Now CALL THEM "BOI" ! HAHAHAHA ! THAT WOULD BE AWESOME BECAUSE WHEN YOU CALL PEOPLE NAMES IT IS AWESOME ! YOU ARE WINNING THE INTERNET ! EVERYBODY IS JEALOUS OF YOU AND YOUR SPECIAL ABILITIES ! NOW DARE THEM TO WATCH YOU SWIM ! HAHAHAHA ! THAT WILL SHOW THEM !
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Good Grief
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MarkL5 wrote: <quoted text> Be a real parent and raise your kids YOURSELF. Mike Vick paid dearly for his crimes. This is America, you pay your debt to society and you move on. You need to move on and raise your kids to understand that an athlete is not responsible for how they turn out. That cop out has been around for too long. Your anger should would be better served by becoming an ACTIVE member of the ASPCA! Role models do not RAISE our kids.. role models are a "person who serves as an example, whose behavior is emulated by others" I don't want anyone I know emulating Mike Vick and I hope you wouldn't either... I have raised my kids just fine. He didn't pay a damn thing for animal cruelty, so to me he did not pay his debt. He pleaded to a lesser offense so he wouldn't have to spend as much time in jail. He says and does what his PR people tell him too say and do. He is in cahoots with HSUS. HSUS is a joke its an organization that does not help animals, it makes laws to hinder helping them. HSUS wanted to put to sleep all the dogs that were rescued from Vicks property, HSUS didn't want to work with them at all. Wayne and Mike deserve each other may they both rot in hell. Have you read the charging documents? the the court files? Have you done any research or is your mind foggy with excitement from his great comeback? And you have no idea who I support or volunteer with or for or why.. the SPCA is just one of many Thank you very much.
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Good Grief wrote: <quoted text> Role models do not RAISE our kids.. role models are a "person who serves as an example, whose behavior is emulated by others" I don't want anyone I know emulating Mike Vick and I hope you wouldn't either... I have raised my kids just fine. He didn't pay a damn thing for animal cruelty, so to me he did not pay his debt. He pleaded to a lesser offense so he wouldn't have to spend as much time in jail. He says and does what his PR people tell him too say and do. He is in cahoots with HSUS. HSUS is a joke its an organization that does not help animals, it makes laws to hinder helping them. HSUS wanted to put to sleep all the dogs that were rescued from Vicks property, HSUS didn't want to work with them at all. Wayne and Mike deserve each other may they both rot in hell. Have you read the charging documents? the the court files? Have you done any research or is your mind foggy with excitement from his great comeback? And you have no idea who I support or volunteer with or for or why.. the SPCA is just one of many Thank you very much. Examples can also be and SHOULD also be those who made mistakes, paid the price for that, and came back to be BETTER than they were before. If that is ignored, we don't give out kids a chance to understand that they TOO are vunerable to being human. Everything you pointed out is about his PAST, without regard to his present or his future. This man may do something in the future that totally benefits mankind, but if all we dwell on is his past, a chance can never be given for further redemption. If you were in the same situation, how would you feel about that? After YOU lost millions of dollars. After YOU lost two productive years of your life behind bars. After YOU lost your good name to the mistake you made. After YOU still owed people money you did not have. That is dire straits. That is the heII that Mike Vick had to come back from. The only people who will tell you they don't care about that, have never gone thru ANYTHING remotely as bad. He PAID for it. He PAID for it. He PAID for it. He Paid for it. It is time we stop beating him up for a mistake and understand that his can be the life that SAVES other lives. Instead of continuning to cry for dead dogs, we should be more concerned for saving the lives of LIVING kids. Who best has the chance to do that, someone who make a great mistake and can speak from first-hand experience of a hard road back based on a change in heart, and work-ethic, or you, who still thinks that he should be cast completely from society? The power of redemption comes from LOSS. The story of Mike Vick cannot be just about the wrong he did. It must include the power of realization, atonement, suffering, acceptance and victory over what you were, by proving to society what you are! We CAN change, but change means nothing in a society that refuses to accept it. He's a symbol of every man who comes from jail, who if offered a chance, takes that chance and runs with it. RUN MIKE VICK!
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Runsfarts
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It would take probably 3 burritos to beat Vickfarts in the $50 farting contest
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Here are the facts:
* Michael Vick was a REGISTERED dog breeder. * April 24, 2007: Michael Vick’s cousin, Davon Boddie, was arrested in Hampton, Va., on drug charges, leading police to obtain a warrant to search his home (owned by Vick) for other drugs and paraphernalia. * April 25, 2007: While serving the search warrant, police discovered evidence of an alleged dog fighting operation, including rape stands, pry bars, treadmills modified for dog training, and a blood-stained carpet. Animal-control officers also removed 66 dogs from the property, 55 of which were pit bulls. * Vick and his co-defendants began the dog fighting operation in early 2001. * Fights staged on the Surry County premises had purses of as much as $20,000 or more at times. * The formation of Bad Newz Kennels and testing of the dogs began in early 2002. According to the indictment, one of the dogs did not fight well and was shot to death with a .22 caliber pistol. * In March 2003, after a pit bull from Bad Newz Kennels lost in a fight, it was executed by wetting it with water and electrocuting it. * In April 2007, approximately eight dogs that did not perform well in testing were killed by “hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog’s body to the ground.”
Here is what Virginia law provides in terms of sentencing for animal cruelty related crimes:
In Virginia, a first offense that does not result in the death of an animal is a Class 1 misdemeanor, which carries a sentence of twelve months or less and a fine of up to $2500 or both. A person committing a second offense, or if the animal dies as a result of the first offense, is guilty of a Class 6 felony, punishable by up to five years in prison or, in the alternative, a prison sentence of less than a year or a maximum fine of $2500 or both. In addition, the owner of a dog or cat injured or killed as a result of cruelty is entitled to a damage award for the value of the animal or the damage done.
Just so we’re clear, Michael Vick was sentenced to 23 months and served 18. Hmm. Now, I am no math wizard, but that seems quite short of the potential maximum. Oh, and he did have to pay a $5,000 fine and another $100 in administration fees.
Why, you ask? Because Michael Vick was not convicted according the Virginia Animal Cruelty laws. Instead he was indicted in Federal Court and plead guilty to one (1), I repeat, one count of “Conspiracy to Travel in Interstate Commerce in Aid of Unlawful Activities and to Sponsor a Dog in an Animal Fight Venture”. An offense that carries a two to five year sentence. I am going to say this again because it’s important:‘Vick was sentenced to 23 months and served 18 months’. Again, not quite two years and certainly short of the five year maximum sentence. But again, this is only for one count or offense. So no Mr. President, Michael Vick has NOT paid his debt to society. But, then again, your Secretary of the Treasury is an admitted tax evader. It must be nice to view right and wrong from your perspective.
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One count. This is unbelievable. Between 2001 and 2007 Michael Vick sponsored dogs in eleven fights. Additionally, he traveled to four states to purchase eleven dogs. Again, could this not be construed as 22 counts? Even with Vick’s meager sentencing this would have equated to 396 months or 33 YEARS!! And even at an absolute minimum, why was he not charged with four counts of the incredibly weak “Conspiracy…”?
But better yet, if he had been truly tried according to Virginia’s Animal Cruelty Laws he could have been tried for twenty dog fights and nine executions. SIXTY FIVE YEARS! Instead, he was again allowed to plead out (while serving out his Federal sentence) to ONE count of dog fighting (the single Animal Cruelty charge was dropped as a part of the plea agreement) and received a three year suspended sentence for time served on the Federal charges. The prosecutor (Virginia’s Surry County Commonwealth Attorney General – Gerald G. Poindexter) didn’t feel that the costs associated with transporting Vick to Virginia from Leavenworth penitentiary in Kansas was worth it. There was also another $2,500 fine which was suspended as well. Nice job, Poindexter. I am sure the good people of Surry County think you’re a real legal eagle, huh?
Some more of Chris’ great math – If Surry County had actually tried Vick they could have charged him with those 29 offenses and reaped $72,500 in fines. Another area I am not an expert in, is travel logistics, but I cannot imagine it would come any where near $72,500 to transport Vick the 1,160 miles (I Google Mapped it)– I mean, that’s $62.50 a mile!? They could have fueled an Abrams M1 armored tank (probably one of the world’s worst gas efficient vehicles) for the entire trip for a mere $3,420.
Another side note: Five of the surviving dogs rescued from Vick’s compound had to be put down. He was not held accountable for those either. But, according to Virginia law, he absolutely should have been. That would have brought the potential charge count up to 34 and another $12,500 for Mr. Poindexter’s ridiculous transportation fund.
Many of you may think I am taking the far extreme position, and I am. Let me point out a few things that should sicken even the hardest of you that may be reading this. First, as if dog fighting isn’t vicious enough, the animals that did not meet Vick and Co. standards or lost their fights were executed. Now I do not mean that they were euthanized by a simple and clean (or slightly humane) method. No, these dogs were sadistically tortured and killed (at times by Vick’s own hands) using methods that required even a slight degree of premeditation and a strong degree of sociopathology – malice and forethought: HANGING, DROWNING, ELECTROCUTING, BLUDGEONED WITH A SHOVEL, SLAMMING THEM TO THE GROUND, et al. That kind of emotional detachment is truly frightening. If Vick and the others associated with Bad NewZ Kennels had done to humans what they did to these dogs, they would be mentioned in the same breath with Dahmer, Gacey, Manson, BTK and other notorious serial killers.
Vick is reported as having experienced an adrenaline rush and euphoric like high from his participation in this savagery.
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MarkL5 wrote: <quoted text> Examples can also be and SHOULD also be those who made mistakes, paid the price for that, and came back to be BETTER than they were before. If that is ignored, we don't give out kids a chance to understand that they TOO are vunerable to being human. Everything you pointed out is about his PAST, without regard to his present or his future. This man may do something in the future that totally benefits mankind, but if all we dwell on is his past, a chance can never be given for further redemption. If you were in the same situation, how would you feel about that? After YOU lost millions of dollars. After YOU lost two productive years of your life behind bars. After YOU lost your good name to the mistake you made. After YOU still owed people money you did not have. That is dire straits. That is the heII that Mike Vick had to come back from. The only people who will tell you they don't care about that, have never gone thru ANYTHING remotely as bad. He PAID for it. He PAID for it. He PAID for it. He Paid for it. It is time we stop beating him up for a mistake and understand that his can be the life that SAVES other lives. Instead of continuning to cry for dead dogs, we should be more concerned for saving the lives of LIVING kids. Who best has the chance to do that, someone who make a great mistake and can speak from first-hand experience of a hard road back based on a change in heart, and work-ethic, or you, who still thinks that he should be cast completely from society? The power of redemption comes from LOSS. The story of Mike Vick cannot be just about the wrong he did. It must include the power of realization, atonement, suffering, acceptance and victory over what you were, by proving to society what you are! We CAN change, but change means nothing in a society that refuses to accept it. He's a symbol of every man who comes from jail, who if offered a chance, takes that chance and runs with it. RUN MIKE VICK! the Convick is a FELON!
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Good Grief
Dundalk, MD
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Okay his present, What the heck has he done for atonement in regards to his treatment of this dogs? He did NOT do any jail time for their mistreatment. He did NOT pay any fines for his cruelty. He did speak publicly a few times with HSUS and told a few kids it was a bad idea to mistreat dogs this way. But he really hasn't done much for you to say he is a changed man. Running a few football camps and saying dog fighting is wrong is not proving anything.
How about paying for rehabilitation of the dogs that survived his cruelty? How about even visiting them? Asking how they are doing? How about down and dirty volunteering at local animal shelters? cleaning the kennels, walking the dogs, feeding them? How about going out with real volunteers and rescuing some of these animals? How about SHOWING us you changed instead of just saying so.
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What is past is past. Go on with your lives - Mike Vick HAS.
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Seattle, WA
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MarkL5 wrote: What is past is past. Go on with your lives - Mike Vick HAS. What's past, is our best clue to the future ! Are YOU stupid/sick or both !? Nice spelling finally ! That ebonics kicked YO AZZ ! LMAOROTF ! They go my ***** all up in da hooudt, ***** be pimpin' just like dey shooudt, Melvin drive his Caddy right into a dee-itch 'Cause his punk-ass homey is too much of a bee-itch Sistah on the pipe she hit on da stem convick got his ass in jail ageein' Got me a supakool layin' in da free-idge ***** be flyin' high off'n da bree-idge Sambo fucked up, he high on dat sherm Bustin up a cap hey cuz got de germ
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