Perfect Packers: Can Green Bay finish 16-0?

ezg357 wrote:

NFL Central: 1968, 1969
NFC Central: 1970, 1971, 1973, 1974, 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1980, 1989, 1992, 1994, 1998, 2000
NFC North: 2008, 2009 Division Championships 18 & 26 Playoff berths Green Bay Packers in 93 years only 10 Division Championships & 27 Playoff berths There is No way the Packers are the better team yet alone The Best over all team in the NFL History with only 10 Division Chanpionships in 93 years is a Joke & Thats Why The NFL List The Steelers as the Best over all team in NFL History they have 22 Division Champioships & 6 Super Bowls
They can Care less abot the 13 championships Its someting for you Packers fans to hang onto Because their sure not the Best in the Division

The only fact that proves the Packers have been better than the Vikings since 1961 is Packers-7 world championships, Vikings-ZERO world championships. You absolutely don't get it do you? None of us Packers fans has claimed the they are the best team ever in NFL history. The facts point out, however, that the Packers have the most world championships (13). So it has been in their colorful 93 history, big deal. Congratulations to the Minnesota Vikings on their 18 division titles and 26 playoff appearances. What the real joke is ezg is that the Vikings have absolutely nothing to show for it. ZERO championships in 50 yrs! And you still want to lay claim to them being the best team in their division since 1961. That is just plain stupid and idiotic. Once again, so you'll get it through you thick skull, Packers fans will take 7 WC's over 18 DT's any day of the week. Continue you stupid argument if you want, but it is simply bull**** and you know it.

You have to admit,Minnesota had a pretty impressive Division title run didnt they.
World Championships is what counts though.
Hey,Detroit is getting better every year and its been a while for the playoffs for them in back to back years and after last years WC,who knows.
A fun off season ahead!!!!!! I dont know what to say aobut our Viking friend and his division titles but they had a nice run in spots and now its time to rebuild for them and they do have some nice pieces to build on so they may not be as bad as many think,i do believe Minn. will make a nice step forward next year,I do like their qb Ponder.He did a nice job and should only get better with experience and with a few more pieces like another WR and an upgrade on the oline, they could be a nice offensive force to deal with as well.

PackerBacker-WichitaKs wrote:

<quoted text>The only fact that proves the Packers have been better than the Vikings since 1961 is Packers-7 world championships, Vikings-ZERO world championships. You absolutely don't get it do you? None of us Packers fans has claimed the they are the best team ever in NFL history. The facts point out, however, that the Packers have the most world championships (13). So it has been in their colorful 93 history, big deal. Congratulations to the Minnesota Vikings on their 18 division titles and 26 playoff appearances. What the real joke is ezg is that the Vikings have absolutely nothing to show for it. ZERO championships in 50 yrs! And you still want to lay claim to them being the best team in their division since 1961. That is just plain stupid and idiotic. Once again, so you'll get it through you thick skull, Packers fans will take 7 WC's over 18 DT's any day of the week. Continue you stupid argument if you want, but it is simply bull**** and you know it.

AS Far as Division Championships there Not as good & We all Know the Team that Wins The Division is the best team of that Division The Packers have 13 championships Yes But Not Division wins & there Not the Best team of there Division OR in theNFL & thats a fact lol Go Vikings

eric wrote:

You have to admit,Minnesota had a pretty impressive Division title run didnt they.
World Championships is what counts though.
Hey,Detroit is getting better every year and its been a while for the playoffs for them in back to back years and after last years WC,who knows.
A fun off season ahead!!!!!! I dont know what to say aobut our Viking friend and his division titles but they had a nice run in spots and now its time to rebuild for them and they do have some nice pieces to build on so they may not be as bad as many think,i do believe Minn. will make a nice step forward next year,I do like their qb Ponder.He did a nice job and should only get better with experience and with a few more pieces like another WR and an upgrade on the oline, they could be a nice offensive force to deal with as well.

You are the frist Packers fan to say that Thank you & it doesnt take away anything from the Packers 13 championships at all. There Still one of the best teams in NFL history I would never say they wasnt. 13 Championships prove that I was only saying in less time Vikes owned the Division with 18 division titles Once more thank you for steping up

ezg357 wrote:

<quoted text>AS Far as Division Championships there Not as good & We all Know the Team that Wins The Division is the best team of that Division The Packers have 13 championships Yes But Not Division wins & there Not the Best team of there Division OR in theNFL & thats a fact lol Go Vikings

I have never disputed the 18 division titles the Vikings have won. What I am disputing is your contention is that this makes the Vikings the best team of their division since 1961. I understand your position on this because you simply have nothing else to brag about as far as the Vikings go. I believe the Bears have won 2 World Championships in the same 50 yr period (1963? and 1985) so that would make them 2nd best in the division behind the Packers. Vikings 3rd, Lions 4th. 27 playoff appearences by the Vikings, ZERO world championships, so sad.

PackerBacker-WichitaKs wrote:

<quoted text>I have never disputed the 18 division titles the Vikings have won. What I am disputing is your contention is that this makes the Vikings the best team of their division since 1961. I understand your position on this because you simply have nothing else to brag about as far as the Vikings go. I believe the Bears have won 2 World Championships in the same 50 yr period (1963? and 1985) so that would make them 2nd best in the division behind the Packers. Vikings 3rd, Lions 4th. 27 playoff appearences by the Vikings, ZERO world championships, so sad.

In Case you Dont know the best team of the given Year that Wins their Division IS The Best Team of that Division No ONe can say it isnt! & being the Vikings has Won the Division 18 times To The Packers 10 times As long as They have been in The NFL YES The Vikings are the Best Team of the Division.. Do You Not Believe The Best Team Wins their given Division Yes OR No?

This year The Packers Won The Division Making them The Best Team of The Division This Year But over all The Vikings with 18 Division titles their the Best team of the Division over all. I am not talking about Super Bowl Wins. The Division titles are Won at the end of the season, Before the Post Season & The Vikings Have The Best record in the Division Making them the Best of the Division

ezg357 wrote:

This year The Packers Won The Division Making them The Best Team of The Division This Year

I like the way you think. This year The Packers also won the Conference making them the best team of the Conference this year! This year the Packers also won the NFL making them the best team of the NFL this year. You are one of the best Packer fans I know.

ezg357 wrote:

This year The Packers Won The Division Making them The Best Team of The Division This Year But over all The Vikings with 18 Division titles their the Best team of the Division over all. I am not talking about Super Bowl Wins. The Division titles are Won at the end of the season, Before the Post Season & The Vikings Have The Best record in the Division Making them the Best of the Division

Whatever you want to think ezg. If you insist of believing the Vikings are the best team from their division since 1961 so be it. You will never be able to coonvince me of that. I simply do not care about who has won the most division titles or who has won the most games since 1961. All that matters to me is that the Packers have won 7 championships during that time period and your Vikings have ZERO. It's all about the world championships. The only reason you keep going on about this is because that is all you have to brag about as a Vikings fan. Win a world championship and then we can discuss who the best team of the division is.

ezg357 wrote:

<quoted text>In Case you Dont know the best team of the given Year that Wins their Division IS The Best Team of that Division No ONe can say it isnt! & being the Vikings has Won the Division 18 times To The Packers 10 times As long as They have been in The NFL YES The Vikings are the Best Team of the Division.. Do You Not Believe The Best Team Wins their given Division Yes OR No?

A year ago the Packers finished in 2nd place in the North Division to the Bears. During the season they split with the Bears. In the playoffs, the Packers defeated the Bears in the NFC Championship game to go on and win the Super Bowl. In this case, the best team did not win the division. However, they did go on to win the world championship. There are advantages to winning the division but as we all know winning a division doesn't neccessarily make you the best team in that division. Without digging into the record books I bet there are teams that finished 2nd in their division that had better divisional records than the team who finished 1st. But, that is probably a moot point because the NFL counts the overall win-loss record. Anyway, ezg, you have your opinions and I have mine. If I were a Vikings fan I would be very disappointed at all the misssed opportunities they have had to win a championship the last 50 yrs. Therein lies your problem, no rings. If you want the title of "best team" in the division the last 50 yrs it yours because that's the only title you have which you seem to be very happy about. If you haven't figured it out yet, I simply do not care about how many division titles a team wins. It's about winning championships. Since 1961, Packers-7 Vikings-0.

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well folks, another 3 weeks more or less will be the begining of the FA signing period and teams futures will be changed a bit for better or worse,teams will helped being built,salary caps will be filled or relieved ( open up) with players being cut,traded or leaving via FA,player movement and GMs game plans of how to build or rebuild teams,its just a great time during the off season.We can see teams being build before our eyes through FA and then the NFL Draft at the end of April ( Christmas in April)fun times ahead for football fans,football geeks and folks into seeing how teams are built ect.
Watching a team in cap trouble being torn down a bit and rebuilt into a championship caliber team is a pretty impressive sight and has been done in more then a few cases.

PackerBacker-WichitaKs wrote:

<quoted text>A year ago the Packers finished in 2nd place in the North Division to the Bears. During the season they split with the Bears. In the playoffs, the Packers defeated the Bears in the NFC Championship game to go on and win the Super Bowl. In this case, the best team did not win the division. However, they did go on to win the world championship. There are advantages to winning the division but as we all know winning a division doesn't neccessarily make you the best team in that division. Without digging into the record books I bet there are teams that finished 2nd in their division that had better divisional records than the team who finished 1st. But, that is probably a moot point because the NFL counts the overall win-loss record. Anyway, ezg, you have your opinions and I have mine. If I were a Vikings fan I would be very disappointed at all the misssed opportunities they have had to win a championship the last 50 yrs. Therein lies your problem, no rings. If you want the title of "best team" in the division the last 50 yrs it yours because that's the only title you have which you seem to be very happy about. If you haven't figured it out yet, I simply do not care about how many division titles a team wins. It's about winning championships. Since 1961, Packers-7 Vikings-0.

The best Team is the Team By the END of SEASON That Won their Division . Winning The Division hasnt A Thing to do with The Post season Play.> Understand That

ezg357 wrote:

<quoted text> The best Team is the Team By the END of SEASON That Won their Division .

What is the team that won the Conference at the end of the season? Isn't that team "the best" in the Conference? What is the team that won the NFL at the end of the season? Isn't that team "the best" in the NFL?

Are you going to answer the questions above or are you gutless?

This is what I am saying The Team that Won The Division is the Best Team of that Division At The end of the seasons games. The Division is decided By the Team With the Best record of that Division Right. When you Win the Conference That could have been a A team say like the 2010 Packers That Didnt Win their Division. But Won the Conference. Division titles decides The Best Team of That Given Division Not Who Won the Conference,That is PostSeason. I cant Make it any Clearer then that

Therefore The Vikings With 18 Division titles To the Packers 10 Division titles Makes the Vikings the Better team of their Division Bottom line Or as they say No Brag just Fact lol Go Vikings

GBPfan wrote:

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What is the team that won the Conference at the end of the season? Isn't that team "the best" in the Conference? What is the team that won the NFL at the end of the season? Isn't that team "the best" in the NFL?
Are you going to answer the questions above or are you gutless?

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ezg357 wrote:

<quoted text>GBPfan you Troll I Fought for my Country I am not a Gutless Troll Like you..

YOU are the one that said that it is "gutless" not to answer questions and YOU have failed to answer questions many. many times. According to your own standard, YOU are gutless.

If you don't like being gutless, don't get throw your girly little hissy fits, simply answer the questions.

ezg357 wrote:

This is what I am saying The Team that Won The Division is the Best Team of that Division At The end of the seasons games. The Division is decided By the Team With the Best record of that Division Right. When you Win the Conference That could have been a A team say like the 2010 Packers That Didnt Win their Division. But Won the Conference. Division titles decides The Best Team of That Given Division Not Who Won the Conference,That is PostSeason. I cant Make it any Clearer then that

What you're saying is that at the end of the regular season's games the Packers had "the best" record in the division. You say that made them the best team in the division. You pointed out that any team can simply "get hot" in the playoffs. Okay.

At the end of the regular season's games the Packers had "the best" record in the Conference. Obviously, that also made the Packers the best team in the Conference. At the end of the regular season's games the Packers also had "the best" record in the NFL. Obviously, that also made the Packer's the best team in the NFL. I'm simply using your logic and extending it to the inevitable conclusion that the Packer's were the NFL's best team, but simply didn't "get hot" in the playoffs.

I like the way you think. You are clearly one of the best Packer fans I know.

BTW the Packers are also still listed in the NFL's record book with an NFL best 13 Championships! Damn, you've got me jazzed about next season.

GBPfan wrote:

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YOU are the one that said that it is "gutless" not to answer questions and YOU have failed to answer questions many. many times. According to your own standard, YOU are gutless.
If you don't like being gutless, don't get throw your girly little hissy fits, simply answer the questions.

Frist Off You Never answer My Question of Dont you Think The Team that Wins it Division is the Best team of that Division Your to much of a Fool to know the differents of Hissy fit & Frustration of trying to get a point across to a Thick Headed Fool

GBPfan wrote:

<quoted text>
What you're saying is that at the end of the regular season's games the Packers had "the best" record in the division. You say that made them the best team in the division. You pointed out that any team can simply "get hot" in the playoffs. Okay.
At the end of the regular season's games the Packers had "the best" record in the Conference. Obviously, that also made the Packers the best team in the Conference. At the end of the regular season's games the Packers also had "the best" record in the NFL. Obviously, that also made the Packer's the best team in the NFL. I'm simply using your logic and extending it to the inevitable conclusion that the Packer's were the NFL's best team, but simply didn't "get hot" in the playoffs.I like the way you think. You are clearly one of the best Packer fans I know.
BTW the Packers are also still listed in the NFL's record book with an NFL best 13 Championships! Damn, you've got me jazzed about next season.

I have never seen anyone this slow on understanding as you are.>> Winning the Conference hasnt a Thing to do with winning ones Division Any Wild Card Team of the Division Can end up winning the Conference., That dont make them the Best team of their Division in any means