Dallas police: Officer drew gun during traffic stop of NFL play...

No one is telling the cops side. They went through a red light-then jumped out of the car. How is the cop supposed to know if they are on drugs and have a weapon? They broke the law.

You stupid ass idiot, whether the police knew from the start or not, why not go inside the hospital to see for himself. people like you need to live in the jungle round wild animals. unbelieveable!!!!Such venom and no compassion for humanity. Some of the "FOOLS" that live in america. I totally see why other countries hate us.

JIm8349 wrote:

OH no....not another professional athlete not given VIP treatment. But here are my questions:
1) How many speeders make up excuses (i.e., lie to the police) why they "had to" speed?
2) How does a policeman tell the difference, on the spot, between a liar and someone with a legitmate reason to break the law (wait a minute...is there a legitamate reason to breaki the law, speed and risk the lives of innocent people?)
3) How does a policeman tell the difference, on the spot, between a distraugtht person and a drug crazed madman ?
4) And another thing, last I heard breast cancer does not strike without warning nor does the "end" come out of the blue. If they were so converned with their mother's health maybe they should have been at her bedside all along.
All I see is a police officer doing a very difficult and dangerous job and another celebrity claiming special treatment. Wah wah wah. I'm more concerned with the policman's saftey than someone who's out partying until the last minute before Mom passes on.

I do not blame the officer for his initial reaction. He had every right to pull his gun when the woman jumped out of the car. He had no way of knowing whether their story was true and he had to protect himself.

However, once the story was verified, he should have handled things much differently. The part that made me angry was when the nurse came out and told him that the MIL had coded and that Moats needed to get up there and the cop said, "I'm almost finished here" and, not only didn't let Moats go into the hospital, but proceded to give him a lecture on 'attitude'. At that point he was just being a jerk on a power trip. That power trip cost Moats and the woman's father the chance to say goodbye.

This is a very unfortunate event indeed. As an officer I am split. On one hand, a vehicle refuses to stop after proceeding through a red light then, continues for a good distance before pulling into a hospital. The windows are tinted (at least what I can see in the video), you can't see how many occupants and a police car utilizing emergency equipment is pursuing the vehicle. These factors usually don't equal a happy outcome. On the other hand, the vehicle is using hazard lights, did stop before proceeding through the light. Lots a variables and unknowns. The vehicle stops and numerous people exit and begin yelling at the officer who is alone. Many things went wrong with the entire situation on both parts. What pains me reading these posts is all of the prejudice listed above. Some rant of racial profiling yet are prejudicial towards all law enforcement. Is this not the pot calling the kettle black? I don't condone the officers actions as a whole however can understand most of them. I also understand the emotional strain felt by Moats and his family. Most officers do go out and conduct themselves professionally and yet still receive complaints against them by citizens not wanting to accept responsibility for their own actions. Automatically the officers fault. It doesn't have to be a minority that is stopped to be demeaning to the officer either. A great deal of upper class people stopped feel that they are above reproach for their actions. It doesn't have to be a white police officer that crosses the line. Society has collapsed to a point of not knowing what is right or wrong anymore. It isn't just LE but, private sector too. AIG ring a bell? To say that more families have been destroyed by police is ridiculous. Do police usually respond after a crime has been committed? Yes, that's because unless a criminal is dumb enough to tell an officer when he is going to commit the crime, law enforcement is more reactive than pro-active. When officers are pro-active, they are deemed "aggressive." Do you want a society that is as safe as you can get given the circumstances or would you rather let chaos reign and blame the men and women in blue? Do you really understand what an officer takes home with them every night? Do you have an idea of what their families go through? Fathers...when you leave for work does your child ask, "daddy, are you coming home tonight?" This because they saw the four officers killed on TV? Does your wife fight with you because you won't talk to her about the scene you saw today for fear of sharing such tragedy and horrific details to ease your own conscience? Let's take a DUI...most say, "okay, they were only a little impaired. When a drunk driver kills a family coming home on a Friday night from the movies, the officer responds to the scene. The FD responds to the scene. The hospital staff receives the transport at trauma. The 7 year old little girl dies in surgery. How many people do you think one DUI affects? I'm not saying all cops are good cops. I am saying most are and do what is right and what they've sworn to do. As stated by others, "they have to make split second decisions." True statement. One problem, cops are not perfect nor are any one of us as citizens. Cops make mistakes and use bad judgment at times. Of those who sit in judgment...when is the last time you had to make a split second decision that may cause you your life or someone else theirs? Many things went wrong here, not all on the officer. Before letting our emotions boil over, can we really look at the totality of the circumstances. You weren't there so let's play devil's advocate and look at both sides through unbiased eyes. Just my .02

and people wonder why I hate cops

Some say he was just doing his job, but I say he was doing a job that allows him to pull out his pistol which in my opinion is the ONLY reason alot of policemen take the damn job anyway(especially in texas). You want to be able to take out your gun and wave it around and point it at people? There is a couple of places for you one's called IRAQ the other AFGHANISTAN.......

DapperDave wrote:

<quoted text>
If stupidity had a monetary value attached to it you'd be a billionaire.
Listen, little fellow, you shouldn't attempt to pontificate on anything more complex than your bowling average, as it's abundantly clear you lack the prerequisites for particpating in discussions that call for intelligence, education, logical thinking and/or common sense.
Please report back to your cave.

LOL!!!!!!!!!

JMA wrote:

This is a very unfortunate event indeed. As an officer I am split. On one hand, a vehicle refuses to stop after proceeding through a red light then, continues for a good distance before pulling into a hospital. The windows are tinted (at least what I can see in the video), you can't see how many occupants and a police car utilizing emergency equipment is pursuing the vehicle. These factors usually don't equal a happy outcome. On the other hand, the vehicle is using hazard lights, did stop before proceeding through the light. Lots a variables and unknowns. The vehicle stops and numerous people exit and begin yelling at the officer who is alone. Many things went wrong with the entire situation on both parts. What pains me reading these posts is all of the prejudice listed above. Some rant of racial profiling yet are prejudicial towards all law enforcement. Is this not the pot calling the kettle black? I don't condone the officers actions as a whole however can understand most of them. I also understand the emotional strain felt by Moats and his family. Most officers do go out and conduct themselves professionally and yet still receive complaints against them by citizens not wanting to accept responsibility for their own actions. Automatically the officers fault. It doesn't have to be a minority that is stopped to be demeaning to the officer either. A great deal of upper class people stopped feel that they are above reproach for their actions. It doesn't have to be a white police officer that crosses the line. Society has collapsed to a point of not knowing what is right or wrong anymore. It isn't just LE but, private sector too. AIG ring a bell? To say that more families have been destroyed by police is ridiculous. Do police usually respond after a crime has been committed? Yes, that's because unless a criminal is dumb enough to tell an officer when he is going to commit the crime, law enforcement is more reactive than pro-active. When officers are pro-active, they are deemed "aggressive." Do you want a society that is as safe as you can get given the circumstances or would you rather let chaos reign and blame the men and women in blue? Do you really understand what an officer takes home with them every night? Do you have an idea of what their families go through? Fathers...when you leave for work does your child ask, "daddy, are you coming home tonight?" This because they saw the four officers killed on TV? Does your wife fight with you because you won't talk to her about the scene you saw today for fear of sharing such tragedy and horrific details to ease your own conscience? Let's take a DUI...most say, "okay, they were only a little impaired. When a drunk driver kills a family coming home on a Friday night from the movies, the officer responds to the scene. The FD responds to the scene. The hospital staff receives the transport at trauma. The 7 year old little girl dies in surgery. How many people do you think one DUI affects? I'm not saying all cops are good cops. I am saying most are and do what is right and what they've sworn to do. As stated by others, "they have to make split second decisions." True statement. One problem, cops are not perfect nor are any one of us as citizens. Cops make mistakes and use bad judgment at times. Of those who sit in judgment...when is the last time you had to make a split second decision that may cause you your life or someone else theirs? Many things went wrong here, not all on the officer. Before letting our emotions boil over, can we really look at the totality of the circumstances. You weren't there so let's play devil's advocate and look at both sides through unbiased eyes. Just my .02

very good point!!!!!!!!!

Have been to either of the two places you so readily pointed out? It's a scary place that nobody wishes to go or return to other than to be with their unit. Our boys & girls are there to do their job not just draw their weapons and aim them at another human target. As for officers, most departments have very strict policies in place which govern action or lack of. I don't know of anyone that draws their weapon and targets another human being wantingly and enjoys it. If I have to place my front sight on another person, it scares me to realize I am faced with a very real threat. Thjat threat may take my life or I will absolutely negate it before that happens. I do not pride myself on that action nor does anyone I know.

anonymous wrote:

Some say he was just doing his job, but I say he was doing a job that allows him to pull out his pistol which in my opinion is the ONLY reason alot of policemen take the damn job anyway(especially in texas). You want to be able to take out your gun and wave it around and point it at people? There is a couple of places for you one's called IRAQ the other AFGHANISTAN.......

The officer involved has now issued an unequivocal apology to Ryan Moats and Ryan Moats' family.

To his credit the officer is showing more class than the nitwits here who continue to rant and rave "the officer was right!"

The officer gives all peace officer's a BAD name!!!! Totall jerk with NO compassion!!!

for all you numbnuts congratulating and praising this dumb rookie, power-trippin cops actions, in case you haven't heard--he resigned after being put on unpaid leave.

he did such a great job, that he had to resign!!

and yes, i can see all the reasons you will come up with for why he resigned: political, set a good example, he's a good person for taking the fall, yadah yadah.

fact of the matter is, he sux. and now he's gonna suck it.

wow..........

I realized one thing after reading this entire blog. Everyone has their opinion and that's what makes this country great! The constitution and 1st ammendment. One thing bothers me... The lack of educated well spoken and valid posts. Those that post, "this sucks" or "I hate pigs" or cops this or cops that," what makes you any better with generalizations on a group because of their profession? In my opinion, your respones aren't any better than this officers lapse in judgement?

JMA wrote:

I realized one thing after reading this entire blog. Everyone has their opinion and that's what makes this country great! The constitution and 1st ammendment. One thing bothers me... The lack of educated well spoken and valid posts. Those that post, "this sucks" or "I hate pigs" or cops this or cops that," what makes you any better with generalizations on a group because of their profession? In my opinion, your respones aren't any better than this officers lapse in judgement?

Nice. From a Canadian, of all people! LOL JK.

cops these days suck.i do not know what is in their heads but it is scary.i miss all the good cops who have long since retired.the new generation of law enforcement is a bunch of brain dead idiots who cannot think for themselves.

you cops who don't like to be judged,i suugest you change your behavior and attitude towards the public or look into another type of employment.

I guess you've been stopped by every officer out there and and treated unjustly to judge all officers and generalize their behavior these days? As I recall, there was more corruption hidden from the public and very few officers faced consequences for their actions back in the day. Good thing they have all since retired.

steve wrote:

you cops who don't like to be judged,i suugest you change your behavior and attitude towards the public or look into another type of employment.

Most department policies and court rulings have taken the thinking from Law Enforcement today.

steve wrote:

cops these days suck.i do not know what is in their heads but it is scary.i miss all the good cops who have long since retired.the new generation of law enforcement is a bunch of brain dead idiots who cannot think for themselves.

are you kidding me a speed trap a few blocks from the hospital! how many pregnant women, families hurrying to the emergency room, families hurrying to say a last goodbye has this tough guy ticketed in the last year? A police officer has to be many things in this country: lawyer, crime fighter, first one into an unknown situation and many other commendable traits. Catching speeders in a hospital zone - shame on him and the police force that gave him the directions to do so. I suggest school crossing duty for a year as a just reward for his inhumane power trip.