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The question "What's Mike Brown doing ?" probably had been asked a few million times in the past 20 years.

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Tony from Pennsylvania

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I Think the best thing to do now (to benefit all Cincinnattians) is to Trade Mike Brown !!!!
Tim from Cincinnati

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Mike Brown is THE BEST!(At having the worst franchise in sports)

We need to boycott this clown and stop going to games and buying concessions and crappy t-shirts. The only feelings this guy still clings on to are monetary, why improve the team if people fill the seats and buy merch?

Stick it to him where it counts! There are so many ill things to say about Mike Brown I just wish they were appropriate for this avenue haha
Phil

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Jul 29, 2011
 
Tony from Pennsylvania wrote:
I Think the best thing to do now (to benefit all Cincinnattians) is to Trade Mike Brown !!!!
AMEN! The Bengals will always be the Bungals as long as Mike Brown is at the helm.
Tim from Cincinnati

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Jul 29, 2011
 
Tony from Pennsylvania wrote:
I Think the best thing to do now (to benefit all Cincinnattians) is to Trade Mike Brown !!!!
If that was an option it would have been done already. Personally, I think next time the US starts a war we ONLY send over Mike Brown. He knows how to completely destroy things, save the cruise missiles next time Desert Storm rolls around...
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I am with Mike Brown on this one. I really like Marvin Lewis as their coach. Why should he give Palmer a trade or release. Let the overpaid, spoiled kid go sit at home and count his money and watch others play the game. There is nothing that says the players MUST sign a contract or play professional football. There is also such a thing as honoring a contract and Palmer either has to do that or stay at home - his choice.
Richard

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Between us long-suffering Bengals fans there is a sayingf:

If Paul and Mike Brown were in a plane crash, who would the survivors be?

ANSWER: the Cincinnati Bengals.

Sad but True.
lomerlaw

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Jul 29, 2011
 
Brown wants the number one pick in the 2012 draft, so the Bengals can select Andrew Luck and begin a rebuild. They were crappy with Carson Plamer and Ochocinco, so without those two a number one pick is certainly within reach.
northernmi

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Maybe Brown should make more of a commitment to winning.
FrzrBowl Survivor

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Here, Here Bob Hunter!!! Well done, particularly the conclusion.
Phil

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lomerlaw wrote:
Brown wants the number one pick in the 2012 draft, so the Bengals can select Andrew Luck and begin a rebuild. They were crappy with Carson Plamer and Ochocinco, so without those two a number one pick is certainly within reach.
Brown is doing the same thing Hugh Culverhouse did when he owned the Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- repeatedly go after the #1 draft pick. Those #1 picks would play a few years with the Bucs and then go on to other teams where they enjoyed success.
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runner1934 wrote:
I am with Mike Brown on this one. I really like Marvin Lewis as their coach. Why should he give Palmer a trade or release. Let the overpaid, spoiled kid go sit at home and count his money and watch others play the game. There is nothing that says the players MUST sign a contract or play professional football. There is also such a thing as honoring a contract and Palmer either has to do that or stay at home - his choice.
Here's the thing, if the Bengals ever decide to part ways with Palmer they can cut him and the contract is void. These are contracts that are only restrictive to the players. So the players leverage their right to sit out in order to get new deals or force trades. It's how business is done and has been done for 20 years now. It's not like Palmer is doing something new. This is business as usual. Palmer tried to do the right thing: he quietly asked Brown to trade him. Brown said no. So Palmer publicly announced that he wanted out of Cincy and would retire if the organization didn't want to trade or release him.

Palmer can't take it. Palmer likes Marvin Lewis but he feels that Marvin is too soft on certain players and that there is a culture of mediocrity in Cincy. Palmer didn't like the way the team changed the offense in order to force the ball to TO and Ocho. He was also livid that the team was struggling and the aforementioned receivers were not willng to do extra work to get better but still had time to do a TV show. Palmer made a good run of it and signed the contract extension because he throught the organization was ready to get seriious about winning but ever since he signed that deal Brown has refused to follow through with his promises to improve the facilities and acquire quality free agents. Year after year the Bengals sport of of the lowest payrolls in the league and that is the biggest reason Palmer wants out. I can't blame him.

Brown has received offers for Palmer and flatly refused them. It's not about giving Palmer what he wants, it's about giving Bengals fans a winning team. Trade Palmer, get a few draft picks and spend that money on free agents
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Brown is awful, but there are no winners in this standoff. Palmer has poisoned the well by continuing to publically insist that he’ll retire rather than return. Good for him for saving his pennies, I guess, but frankly he hasn’t played well enough of late to deserve that kind of leverage. With Brown over a barrel, no team is going to give up anything good in trade just to save his bacon, and the Kitties need a lot more than another 5th round draft pick to return to respectability, if that’s even possible. If that’s all Brown can get for his franchise quarterback, and since everyone thinks he’s a dope anyway, he might as well stand on principle in this labor dispute.
JJB

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Why not trade Palmer for someone who could actually help the team now? I dont know - maybe Arizona could have been a nice trade spot with getting a DB to replace Joseph?
This guy is obviously a stubborn old mule. Maybe he should put his personal feelings aside, suck it up and try making the team better.
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In 1978, I met Mike Brown, owner of the Cincinnati Bengals and his father Paul, a football genius, in Wilmington, during training camp. But the point of this story must wait, until I relate my conclusion while attending the game of the century.

On September 24th 1977,#3 Oklahoma battled #4 Ohio State at the Horseshoe in front of a record crowd: it was the game of the century. Barry Switzer was in his glory. Woody Hayes was in decline and he would be fired the next year.

http://napoleonlive.info/what-i-think/old-men...
Smokey

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Salta wrote:
Brown is awful, but there are no winners in this standoff. Palmer has poisoned the well by continuing to publically insist that he’ll retire rather than return. Good for him for saving his pennies, I guess, but frankly he hasn’t played well enough of late to deserve that kind of leverage. With Brown over a barrel, no team is going to give up anything good in trade just to save his bacon, and the Kitties need a lot more than another 5th round draft pick to return to respectability, if that’s even possible. If that’s all Brown can get for his franchise quarterback, and since everyone thinks he’s a dope anyway, he might as well stand on principle in this labor dispute.
The only one at fault here is Mike Brown. His responsibility is to run a successful franchise, not impose his will over players. Regardless of what Palmer has done, it is not in the best interest of the organization to drag this out. How does it benefit the Bengals if Palmer retires? I think the Bengals could get more than a 5th round pick for Palmer. I suspect that they missed an opportunity to get a 1st round pick out of Arizona. I think if given the choice between sacrificing a 1st round pick for Palmer or giving up an elite corner and a second round pick for Kolb they would have jumped on the Palmer deal. I think Seattle would have give up a high pick as well. The Tavaris Jackson signing makes me wonder if Seattle is banking on getting Palmer next year.

Even if they can't do better than a 5th round pick, so what? It's still more than you get if the guy retires.

It's more than you get if he comes back, too. Palmer is clearly unhappy and there's no question that the players have moved on. If he comes back it would really hurt the team's ability to find chemsistry with all of these new players. Is that what Brown wants?

Mike Brown is acting like a spoiled child, which is essentially what he is. Daddy's little boy who never once had to make his own way. Mike's trying to act like the jerk his dad was, but he doesn't command the same level of respect.
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Jul 29, 2011
 
Can we trade Mike Brown? Or can the city of Cincinnati sue him for gross negligence? He is clearly the worst owner in professional football, and the Bengals are the worst organization if professional football. This is what happens when you get a greedy miser running an organization, not to mention the shameless exploitation of and capitalization on the loyal fans of Cincinnati. With all of the money you're saving not paying Carson Palmer, hire a GM please!!! I know Mike Brown is laughing his way to the bank, while Bengal Nation suffers. You should be ashamed.
CBJ fan anyway

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#17
Jul 29, 2011
 
Keep Mike Brown!! That will help guarantee the Steelers two easy wins each year. And make it easy to get seats for the away game.
bsharp

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Jul 29, 2011
 
Damn, what a child. Brown's own words suggest he is motivated more by the personal goal of teaching Palmer a lesson than doing what is best for his team. Will Palmer really be taught a lesson? Seems there is someone else in the picture who hasn't learned much of anything in life despite years of experience.
Kevin - Cincy

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Jul 29, 2011
 
An accurate depiction for sure. Mike Brown is a short-sited stooge with a law degree and daddy's elite business to allow his arrogance and ineptitude to show thru like a badly drawn shade. He honestly believes he is right... heck, that's all he lives for. Stick it to the tax payers of Hamilton County to pay for his brick and mortar and instead of re-paying the tax payers with an effort to bring a quality team to bear he lets his ego run amok and has to prove that whatever he says goes.
There is no other owner in the league that has this act... Washington will at least spend money... the Raiders are just waiting for Al to kick it. The Bengals' fans have a lifetime of the Brown family's rule to look forward to. It's like the Movie "Roadhouse" where the town is overrun with corruption except in our story Patrick Swayzee gets so distraught at the end he gives up and goes away only to leave the town forever under the diabolical rule of the goons.
The Mayans were wizards

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Jul 29, 2011
 
The Redskins wanted to trade two first round draft picks for Chad Johnson a couple of years ago, but Brown wouldnt budge....foolish.

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