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Skeptical you Betcha
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Rachael wrote: <quoted text>Need some help circulating this stpry http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp... Lets try to get them some help! Add to the above,400 Pit Bulls gathered up by the ASPCA,and other agencies,Strange,Fighting dogs,mind you,and suprise,Animal control officers men and women,carrying them under their arms,faces touching,see photos,and not ONE attack take notice,you paranoid haters out there,just grow a pair,and stop the spewing of hatred mostly based on the MSM reports?? Instead ask your selves how does 400 hundred APBTs get picked up by hand and carried to shelters,get examined by vets,groomed,deloused,fed and watered HMMMMMMMMMM? You idiots! Attention all haters??? Read it and choke on the real facts??
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Mechanic
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Rachael wrote: <quoted text>Need some help circulating this stpry http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp... Lets try to get them some help! As a breed I personally like Pit Bulls. When properly raised, when pack structure has been established, when they have been obedience trained and socialized they are great family pets. Unfortunately there are many people in our society who ignore these very important responsibilities and the results are often catastrophic. This article is intended as a warning to Pit Bull owners who refuse to be responsible pet owners. I should also point out that this is not just a Pit Bull issue. Similar problems can evolve in many breeds of dogs. I have never owned a Pit but over the years I have been around a lot of them. In the past 35 years I have seen some very nicePit Bullat training seminars that I have attended or sponsored. Many are really cool dogs. Unfortunately many others become rank dangerous animals mostly because their owners have never established pack structure with their dogs. This is a breed of dog that requires a solid foundation in pack structure. When irresponsible owners ignore pack behavior, rank drive issues and obedience training their dogs often become dangerous animals. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention examined U.S. dog-attack fatalities from 1979 to 1998. During that period, dogs killed more than 300 Americans, and pit bulls, either purebred or crossbred, accounted for 76 of the deaths, the most of any breed. Purebred or crossbred Rottweillers were responsible for 44 deaths, the second highest. The CDC concluded that Rottweillers and pit bulls were responsible for 67 percent of fatal attacks. I breed German Shepherds and Malinois, for various reasons I don't believe "everyone who wants a dog" should own one of our dogs, the same does for PB. The purpose for writing and maintaining this article is to hopefully convince potential owners to think before they buy a PB. This is not a breed to jump into without a game plan. If you are not sure of you want to do the training then don't get a Pit Bull. As a general rule PBs that attack humans are not born with the instinct to kill a human. They get that way because their owners fail them. They get that way because owners: 1- DON'T ESTABLISH PACK STRUCTURE 2- THEY DON'T TRAIN THEIR DOGS 3- THEY DON'T CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT THE DOGS ARE ALLOWED 4- THEY DON'T PROPERLY SOCIALIZE THEIR DOGS As a working breed, PBs were originally bred as fighting dogs. With most working breeds the majority of the dogs that are sold today have had the working ability bred out of them. Unfortunately because of ass holes like Michael Vick, this is not the case with PBs. But with this said that does not mean that PB's cannot be molded into safe well mannered family pets - they can be.
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Melinda
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I went to the Bad Rap site. This is what they said. A WONDERFUL SITE BTW http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/search...
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Dan
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Patriot from Ohio
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who are you yelling at?
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LOL...ummm..nobody. The ALL CAPS in my quote are from this idiot who brings race into the subject.Skeptical you betcha. Thats the person who was using all caps not me. I was simply responding to their obvious stupidity.
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Mechanic
United States
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Patriot from Ohio wrote: who are you yelling at?
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LOL...ummm..nobody. The ALL CAPS in my quote are from this idiot who brings race into the subject.Skeptical you betcha. Thats the person who was using all caps not me. I was simply responding to their obvious stupidity. At least he contributed to the topic,unlike your self?? Where are your posts? Big mouth,no IQ!
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Rachael
United States
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Mechanic wrote: <quoted text>
As a breed I personally like Pit Bulls.
When properly raised, when pack structure has been established, when they have been obedience trained and socialized they are great family pets. Unfortunately there are many people in our society who ignore these very important responsibilities and the results are often catastrophic. This article is intended as a warning to Pit Bull owners who refuse to be responsible pet owners.
I should also point out that this is not just a Pit Bull issue. Similar problems can evolve in many breeds of dogs.
I have never owned a Pit but over the years I have been around a lot of them. In the past 35 years I have seen some very nicePit Bullat training seminars that I have attended or sponsored. Many are really cool dogs. Unfortunately many others become rank dangerous animals mostly because their owners have never established pack structure with their dogs.
This is a breed of dog that requires a solid foundation in pack structure. When irresponsible owners ignore pack behavior, rank drive issues and obedience training their dogs often become dangerous animals.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention examined U.S. dog-attack fatalities from 1979 to 1998. During that period, dogs killed more than 300 Americans, and pit bulls, either purebred or crossbred, accounted for 76 of the deaths, the most of any breed. Purebred or crossbred Rottweillers were responsible for 44 deaths, the second highest. The CDC concluded that Rottweillers and pit bulls were responsible for 67 percent of fatal attacks.
I breed German Shepherds and Malinois, for various reasons I don't believe "everyone who wants a dog" should own one of our dogs, the same does for PB. The purpose for writing and maintaining this article is to hopefully convince potential owners to think before they buy a PB. This is not a breed to jump into without a game plan. If you are not sure of you want to do the training then don't get a Pit Bull.
As a general rule PBs that attack humans are not born with the instinct to kill a human. They get that way because their owners fail them. They get that way because owners:
1- DON'T ESTABLISH PACK STRUCTURE
2- THEY DON'T TRAIN THEIR DOGS
3- THEY DON'T CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT THE DOGS ARE ALLOWED
4- THEY DON'T PROPERLY SOCIALIZE THEIR DOGS
As a working breed, PBs were originally bred as fighting dogs. With most working breeds the majority of the dogs that are sold today have had the working ability bred out of them. Unfortunately because of ass holes like Michael Vick, this is not the case with PBs. But with this said that does not mean that PB's cannot be molded into safe well mannered family pets - they can be. I like pitbulls too
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Teddy
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Everybody knows that wat he did is wrong but he served his time and should be allowed to play. End of story
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Carson
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Is Michael Vick's career over? Let's hope so. He was a horrible image for our youth.
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Dion
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He should have thought of that before he treated the animals in such a cruel way. He was convicted on Federal Charges -- anyone else would not be allowed to go back to work in the same field after such a conviction. So I don't believe he should be allowed to either. As children, we were taught that if we did something wrong there were consequences. This should be his consequence for his actions -- we didn't force him to do it. I haven't seen anything that states that he is ashamed of what he did. If he gets away with it this time, he will think he can do it again.
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Patriot from Ohio
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At least he contributed to the topic,unlike your self?? Where are your posts? Big mouth,no IQ! <<<<<QUOTE >>> Dude take it easy. The whole point is he was the one who was yelling, and he was the one who was making racist comments. What the **** is your problem. Big mouth? Whos got the big mouth? Show me where ive typed in all caps! Unlike some people I don't have to type in all caps to get my posts across. No I don't have much to contribute to the topic...but I do address posts that are absolutely insane. I always do that. Chill out.
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Patriot from Ohio
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Everybody knows that wat he did is wrong but he served his time and should be allowed to play. End of story <<<<QUOTE> >>>> I totally agree...thats what ive been saying.
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Rachael
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Dion wrote: He should have thought of that before he treated the animals in such a cruel way. He was convicted on Federal Charges -- anyone else would not be allowed to go back to work in the same field after such a conviction. So I don't believe he should be allowed to either. As children, we were taught that if we did something wrong there were consequences. This should be his consequence for his actions -- we didn't force him to do it. I haven't seen anything that states that he is ashamed of what he did. If he gets away with it this time, he will think he can do it again. Yes he should have because many, many others will think of nmoting but that for many years to come.
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Rachael
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Melinda wrote: I went to the Bad Rap site. This is what they said. A WONDERFUL SITE BTW http://badrap-blog.blogspot.com/search... PLEASE CONTACT MR. ROGER GOODELL AT (email) Goodell2@nfl.net Telephone #'s. 212 450_2000 or 212 450_2027 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-nfl-for-m...
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Mechanic
United States
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Patriot from Ohio wrote: At least he contributed to the topic,unlike your
self?? Where are your posts? Big mouth,no IQ!
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Dude take it easy. The whole point is he was the one who was yelling, and he was the one who was making racist comments. What the **** is your problem.
Big mouth? Whos got the big mouth? Show me where ive typed in all caps! Unlike some people I don't have to type in all caps to get my posts across.
No I don't have much to contribute to the topic...but I do address posts that are absolutely insane. I always do that. Chill out. Well at least you admit to being an air head with zero to say on topic,why do you people come on a thread at all?????? Lonely?? join a club??
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Melinda
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Mechanic wrote: <quoted text>
Well at least you admit to being an air head with
zero to say on topic,why do you people come on a
thread at all?????? Lonely?? join a club?? He came to bash animal lovers. I know your a dog lover but this is terrible. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009...
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Patriot from Ohio
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He came to bash animal lovers. I know your a dog lover but this is terrible. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009 ... <<<QUOTE>> >> Sure bla bla bla. go on say whatever you want. You have no idea what the hell you are talking about. I love my dog. I walk him everyday. I play with him. I feed him. I scratch him for hours. He is my best friend. Hes the best dog in the whole world. I love ALL dogs, cats ect. I love animals. I came to bash racists.
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Patriot from Ohio
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Well at least you admit to being an air head with
zero to say on topic,why do you people come on a
thread at all?????? Lonely?? join a club??
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Dude take it easy. Call me whatever you like...I made a post on the topic. I came on the thread because I felt like it. Thats why. And because I was interested in what people had to say. Instead theres idiots like you on here.
Lonely?? Join a club?? huh what the **** is your problem dude.
What Michael Vick did was sick, he served his time, and its done. Hes been punished. Alright?
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Samantha
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Which is why it was aimed at mechanic and not you. I will never believe a true dog lover supports Vick,sorry
no more than I believe the cat killer loves cats.
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Patriot from Ohio
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I don't 'support' Vick. Like I said, what he did was disgusting, he served his time, and its finished. People have such a hard time of putting things in the past. I was sickened by what I saw he was doing. And I was glad when they threw him away. But to go on and on about it doesn't make sense.
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