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Michael Vick Needs To Score PR Victory, Experts Say

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Skeptical you Betcha wrote:
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You are really showing your ignorance of dogs now
APBTS are not training Pugs,It is a whole different ball game..Ordinary training does not apply to them successfully..its a combination,of very unconfrontational,and mental control,one must not get into physical confrontational situations,with them,you will lose!! Their weakness are treats,plus their overwhelming sensitivity,and tenderness,and loyalty..Thats
coming from training hundreds of them...Any really genuine APBT trainers will support me
I am sure of that..So study what I have educated
you about today,maybe one day you will be able to do the same? But first you had better change
your skimpy knowledge about dogs,It just this,Its just that,Does not a good trainer make
Dude/Chick!!
You must not realize who you are talking to. You are addressing the wise and great phoenix falcon, a regular "dog whisperer" who has "extensive hands on experience" with every dog breed for the last 38 years. And since he says he's only 38 that must mean that he has been training dogs since he was crappin' his diapers.

Seriously, I know it's fun to slap this dude around a bit and illustrate just how clueless he is but he's so ignorant it really has no affect on him. It's like talking to a brick wall.

This is the same genius that wrote, "if you have killed a fly, stepped on an ant, or picked a flower", then you are just as guilty of abuse and inhumane treatment as the maggot vick.

It's really not possible to intelligently communicate with a trog who actually rationalizes in such a manner.
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USA ROCKS wrote:
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You must not realize who you are talking to. You are addressing the wise and great phoenix falcon, a regular "dog whisperer" who has "extensive hands on experience" with every dog breed for the last 38 years. And since he says he's only 38 that must mean that he has been training dogs since he was crappin' his diapers.
Seriously, I know it's fun to slap this dude around a bit and illustrate just how clueless he is but he's so ignorant it really has no affect on him. It's like talking to a brick wall.
This is the same genius that wrote, "if you have killed a fly, stepped on an ant, or picked a flower", then you are just as guilty of abuse and inhumane treatment as the maggot vick.
It's really not possible to intelligently communicate with a trog who actually rationalizes in such a manner.
I'm glad to read you!
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-nfl-for-m...
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USA ROCKS wrote:
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Way too funny dude, by far one of your best vomit inducing posts.
You're right home slice, anybody can tell by the intelligence (lmao) of your posts that you are a regular "dog whisperer".
Observant post!The truth will set us free!!
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<quoted text>alright dude /chick, whatever you are today, whatever you say, you know it all, you are never wrong about anything, yada yada yada, blah blah blah, there, you feel better? you know more about dogs then anyone in the world, and so on and so forth. etc. etc. etc.
Hope you enjoyed the A$$ whipping,thats the last one you are getting sorry,but I hate to educate imbeciles,who make inane,and puerile remarks,when
they get caught lying?? I imagine there was a lot
of publicity,by the media,on your alleged shooting of the APBT,and the alleged death of your Jack Russell?? Care to share with us the media reports on it all??? We are all waiting but
not holding our breath??
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As a real estate investor and auto dealer, Eison, 41, values aggression in his dogs for protecting both himself and his property. "My dogs are my pistols," he says, cracking a gold-tooth smile. "I have my dogs on my property, and I have faith in them. If they're coming at you, you have to shoot them to kill them."

Tough people want tough dogs, but if you want a truly vicious dog you have to create it yourself. With his latest litter of three girls and a boy, Eison is trying to re-create a bloodline of fighting dogs he owned 20 years ago (though he insists his fighting days are long over). He's making a stud dog out of his prized companion Rock, an eerily silent pit bull with a golden brown coat and pink nose. Rock's first litter was born in early May, and Eison watched its progress daily to see which of the puppies would develop more of their father's traits.
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Eison kennels the pups in a fenced-in corner of his backyard, in a quiet neighborhood of single-family homes in St. Albans, Queens. When the dogs get older, he'll move them to another house nearby, where his wife and stepchildren live, and where he keeps his adult dogs—a Cane Corso and three pit bulls—in large pens out back. He has three more dogs, two Cane Corsos and a Rottweiler, at friends' houses.

Hoping to turn Rock's offspring into deadly weapons, Eison started antagonizing them when they were around nine weeks old. One afternoon he held an all-brown puppy by its midsection and for several minutes forced it to lie across the neck of one its sisters, who Eison believes might be the pick of the litter. Eison didn't think the brown pup was willing enough to play rough, so he decided to force it into a scrum. After a minute or so, its sister became angry and began to growl and bite the brown one's ears. After the incident the brown puppy cowered under a metallic-blue racing motorcycle Eison keeps in the backyard and peed.

Check this guy out,Talk about problems being created?????????

“noK9 ever peed on a moving car”

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USA ROCKS wrote:
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Way too funny dude, by far one of your best vomit inducing posts.
You're right home slice, anybody can tell by the intelligence (lmao) of your posts that you are a regular "dog whisperer".
i hope it was blood you threw up.

lol

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USA ROCKS wrote:
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You must not realize who you are talking to. You are addressing the wise and great phoenix falcon, a regular "dog whisperer" who has "extensive hands on experience" with every dog breed for the last 38 years. And since he says he's only 38 that must mean that he has been training dogs since he was crappin' his diapers.
Seriously, I know it's fun to slap this dude around a bit and illustrate just how clueless he is but he's so ignorant it really has no affect on him. It's like talking to a brick wall.
This is the same genius that wrote, "if you have killed a fly, stepped on an ant, or picked a flower", then you are just as guilty of abuse and inhumane treatment as the maggot vick.
It's really not possible to intelligently communicate with a trog who actually rationalizes in such a manner.
I was talking with a fellow blogger(not from here) who agreed with you that it is quite useless to argue with them. It only distracts from the subject and that is what they want

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Skeptical you Betcha wrote:
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Hope you enjoyed the A$$ whipping,thats the last one you are getting sorry,but I hate to educate imbeciles,who make inane,and puerile remarks,when
they get caught lying?? I imagine there was a lot
of publicity,by the media,on your alleged shooting of the APBT,and the alleged death of your Jack Russell?? Care to share with us the media reports on it all??? We are all waiting but
not holding our breath??
if i did that, then you and the other people haters will know my name, sorry, i'm not gonna make it that easy for your simple mind, remember, i don't lie like you.
now here, take this with you...

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that's a middle finger for you.....
lol
lol
you are what i call a funny fuc

you make me laugh
lol

how about this
you tell me your name
and i'll tell you mine
lol
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Anonymous!
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Rachael wrote:
Great story. I wish Mr. Maltavan and Tuesday the very best!!!
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phoenix falcon wrote:
<quoted text>if i did that, then you and the other people haters will know my name, sorry, i'm not gonna make it that easy for your simple mind, remember, i don't lie like you.
now here, take this with you...
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that's a middle finger for you.....
lol
lol
you are what i call a funny fuc
you make me laugh
lol
how about this
you tell me your name
and i'll tell you mine
lol
A$$ whippings bring out the troll in you uh? BTW
where was the lie??????????LMAO!
Have some dignity,retire from posting,have you no
shame at all?
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Jul 11, 2009
 
Rachael wrote:
And we are just scratching the surface of what great things dogs contribute to society..I swear
the more people I encounter,the more I love my
dogs!
Marisa
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And we are just scratching the surface of what great things dogs contribute to society..I swear
the more people I encounter,the more I love my
dogs!
one more
http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp...
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phoenix falcon wrote:
<quoted text>umm, you have no idea who you are talking to, i did 3 tours in the " sandbox " as you call it, how many did you do? i'm not there because the powers that be in the bush admin. would not allow us to do the job we were sent there to do, so i got out. what are you talking about? you must have me confused with one of your other stalk-ees, when and where did tricky Dick, become a " buddy " of mine? i think he and bush should be in jail for murder and treason, go pester somebody else, you are just making yourself look stupid.
I do not believe you!

Also,I do not believe some of your other stories.

I have every reason to disbelieve you, because you are such a big, dramatic bullsh*tter.
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Jul 12, 2009
 
Flute wrote:
<quoted text>I do not believe you!
Also,I do not believe some of your other stories.
I have every reason to disbelieve you, because you are such a big, dramatic bullsh*tter.
Add to the above,400 Pit Bulls gathered up by the ASPCA,and other agencies,Strange,Fighting dogs,mind you,and suprise,Animal control officers
men and women,carrying them under their arms,faces touching,see photos,and not ONE attack
take notice,you paranoid haters out there,just
grow a pair,and stop the spewing of hatred mostly
based on the MSM reports?? Instead ask your selves how does 400 hundred APBTs get picked up by hand and carried to shelters,get examined by
vets,groomed,deloused,fed and watered HMMMMMMMMMM? You idiots!
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Skeptical you Betcha wrote:
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Add to the above,400 Pit Bulls gathered up by the ASPCA,and other agencies,Strange,Fighting dogs,mind you,and suprise,Animal control officers
men and women,carrying them under their arms,faces touching,see photos,and not ONE attack
take notice,you paranoid haters out there,just
grow a pair,and stop the spewing of hatred mostly
based on the MSM reports?? Instead ask your selves how does 400 hundred APBTs get picked up by hand and carried to shelters,get examined by
vets,groomed,deloused,fed and watered HMMMMMMMMMM? You idiots!
I pray those poor dogs get adopted into SAFE homes. I'm going to check the Bad Rap website to see what they say. But I think the rescues are overwhelmed already. We HAVE to spay/neuter all pets. We HAVE to.
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Melinda wrote:
<quoted text>I pray those poor dogs get adopted into SAFE homes. I'm going to check the Bad Rap website to see what they say. But I think the rescues are overwhelmed already. We HAVE to spay/neuter all pets. We HAVE to.
As a breed I personally like Pit Bulls.

When properly raised, when pack structure has been established, when they have been obedience trained and socialized they are great family pets. Unfortunately there are many people in our society who ignore these very important responsibilities and the results are often catastrophic. This article is intended as a warning to Pit Bull owners who refuse to be responsible pet owners.

I should also point out that this is not just a Pit Bull issue. Similar problems can evolve in many breeds of dogs.

I have never owned a Pit but over the years I have been around a lot of them. In the past 35 years I have seen some very nicePit Bullat training seminars that I have attended or sponsored. Many are really cool dogs. Unfortunately many others become rank dangerous animals mostly because their owners have never established pack structure with their dogs.

This is a breed of dog that requires a solid foundation in pack structure. When irresponsible owners ignore pack behavior, rank drive issues and obedience training their dogs often become dangerous animals.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention examined U.S. dog-attack fatalities from 1979 to 1998. During that period, dogs killed more than 300 Americans, and pit bulls, either purebred or crossbred, accounted for 76 of the deaths, the most of any breed. Purebred or crossbred Rottweillers were responsible for 44 deaths, the second highest. The CDC concluded that Rottweillers and pit bulls were responsible for 67 percent of fatal attacks.

I breed German Shepherds and Malinois, for various reasons I don't believe "everyone who wants a dog" should own one of our dogs, the same does for PB. The purpose for writing and maintaining this article is to hopefully convince potential owners to think before they buy a PB. This is not a breed to jump into without a game plan. If you are not sure of you want to do the training then don't get a Pit Bull.

As a general rule PBs that attack humans are not born with the instinct to kill a human. They get that way because their owners fail them. They get that way because owners:

1- DON'T ESTABLISH PACK STRUCTURE

2- THEY DON'T TRAIN THEIR DOGS

3- THEY DON'T CONTROL THE ENVIRONMENT THE DOGS ARE ALLOWED

4- THEY DON'T PROPERLY SOCIALIZE THEIR DOGS

As a working breed, PBs were originally bred as fighting dogs. With most working breeds the majority of the dogs that are sold today have had the working ability bred out of them. Unfortunately because of ass holes like Michael Vick, this is not the case with PBs. But with this said that does not mean that PB's cannot be molded into safe well manored family pets - they can be.
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I think you need careful planning and knowledge of responsibility to own ANY pet. This is the problem. People take animals out to the grocery and GIVE them away. What a shame.
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