Mass shooting at Batman screening

Jul 20, 2012 | Posted by: Burento | Full story: www.cbsnews.com

A gas mask-wearing gunman opened fire early Friday at a suburban Denver movie theater, leaving at least 12 people dead and 50 others injured, police said.

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#876 Jul 24, 2012
8 killed from the explosion; about 200 injured ... and then the campground phase.

Pretty much a year ago.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Norway_atta...

Evil incarnate for then and now.

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#877 Jul 24, 2012
obvious I meant children ..
Surly Curmudgen

Pikeville, TN

#878 Jul 24, 2012
There where several other heroic acts in the theatre that night. I counted at least eight. The most heroic in my opinion was a thirteen year old who stayed, when she could have run, with bullets flying and the confusion and tried to get an adult body off the six year old girl to try to save her life. The three men prominent in this article and adults gave their lives protecting their girl friends, someone they knew. This girl thirteen years old stayed to help a stranger risking her life in doing so.
While trying to count the acts of heroism I was wondering if this is a part of what we as Americans are and if that degree of heroism is found in other nations. That question was answered by this article. There was a disquieting thought with this. Twenty, thirty even fifty years ago there would have been an active offence not just passive defence. A half dozen or more men in a full out charge at the shooter would have taken him out with fewer deaths. What has changed from fifty years ago?

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#879 Jul 24, 2012
Surly Curmudgen wrote:
There where several other heroic acts in the theatre that night. I counted at least eight. The most heroic in my opinion was a thirteen year old who stayed, when she could have run, with bullets flying and the confusion and tried to get an adult body off the six year old girl to try to save her life. The three men prominent in this article and adults gave their lives protecting their girl friends, someone they knew. This girl thirteen years old stayed to help a stranger risking her life in doing so.
While trying to count the acts of heroism I was wondering if this is a part of what we as Americans are and if that degree of heroism is found in other nations. That question was answered by this article. There was a disquieting thought with this. Twenty, thirty even fifty years ago there would have been an active offence not just passive defence. A half dozen or more men in a full out charge at the shooter would have taken him out with fewer deaths. What has changed from fifty years ago?
You started out great but then farted and shat your pants at the end.

Arm chairs need to stop trying to second guess "what I would've done." Bullshat...

Fact #1 - It was over in less than a minute - there wasn't time to organize a militia, plan a attack and play Audie Murphy.

Fact #2 - The heroes of this tragic day need to be held in higher regard. There was no tanks, or armor or guns to protect them - they protected and sheilded the closest person to them that they "would always take a bullet for."

Fact #3 - Rushing this idiot would've been suicide. Simply rushing him with an "end around" would've resulted in more bodies. We thank our lucky stars that only 12 innocent folks lost their lives that day, including a 6-year old and the killer was caught.

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#880 Jul 24, 2012
Fact #3 - clarification, only 12 as opposed to more. 12 dead in any scenario is too many.
food for thought

Schaumburg, IL

#881 Jul 24, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
We could tit for tat laws all day, but let's take marijuana for example. I don't use and don't care one way or the other, but...why is it the government's responsibility to tell me that I can or cannot use it?
See, this is what I don't understand about the "smaller" government argument. Of ALL things, the government should not be involved in my body. They should not tell me that I can or cannot have an abortion or use drugs. I can legally drink myself to death, but can't smoke pot. Makes no sense. Why is the government involved in the business of overseeing our bodies? And that's just one example.
Does "big" government only apply to big business? Do the ridiculous laws and permits and constant barrage of rules and regulations not count when they are hoisted onto the people?
What all these laws say to me is that government(s) believe we are idiots and cannot govern ourselves. There actually needs to be a law for people to wash their hands? Who monitors this law? Are we really THAT stupid that we don't remember our mommies and teachers telling us to wash our hands? Or is this more government intervention?
How about a government telling you that you MUST get your child vaccinated against HPV? I MUST?!?!?! Excuse me???? I, as my child's parent, will make that decision, thank you. More government intervention?
Laws and rules to tell you how to live, how to work, how to drive, how to eat, where you can go, where you can't go, on and on and on from dog catcher on up. For our own good, you say? Can I make THAT decision for myself? Can I make the decisions that affect MY life myself? I don't need a government to tell me not to drink soda or eat French fries. That is intrusive. I don't need a government telling me what to do on the property I pay taxes and a mortgage on. But they do it anyway.
This is what I'm talking about. Intrusive government. That which crawls into our lives, even the most personal parts of it, and takes over. And while the Constitution may grant "rights", somehow our right to simply being able to live our lives free of government intrusion is slowly being eroded.
Small government is only something they clamor for when there is a democrat in office. Their leaders do not want to diminish their roles and they only want to cut spending on social services to free up more money for the Wall Street casinos. Deregulating business while micro-managing womem's vaginas is NOT small government.

And the very notion that NOW *is not the time to talk about gun control* portends big government inaction. Many conservatives feel the victims in Colorado took one for the team. They suffered and died so that others may be free to buy as many assault rifles with the largest capacities possible. THAT is their idea of freedom.
kennett girl

Kennett, MO

#882 Jul 24, 2012
we express our sympathy to those who lost love one's and prayer's for the survivor's and their families
less not more

Alexandria, LA

#883 Jul 24, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
We could tit for tat laws all day, but let's take marijuana for example. I don't use and don't care one way or the other, but...why is it the government's responsibility to tell me that I can or cannot use it?
See, this is what I don't understand about the "smaller" government argument. Of ALL things, the government should not be involved in my body. They should not tell me that I can or cannot have an abortion or use drugs. I can legally drink myself to death, but can't smoke pot. Makes no sense. Why is the government involved in the business of overseeing our bodies? And that's just one example.
Does "big" government only apply to big business? Do the ridiculous laws and permits and constant barrage of rules and regulations not count when they are hoisted onto the people?
What all these laws say to me is that government(s) believe we are idiots and cannot govern ourselves. There actually needs to be a law for people to wash their hands? Who monitors this law? Are we really THAT stupid that we don't remember our mommies and teachers telling us to wash our hands? Or is this more government intervention?
How about a government telling you that you MUST get your child vaccinated against HPV? I MUST?!?!?! Excuse me???? I, as my child's parent, will make that decision, thank you. More government intervention?
Laws and rules to tell you how to live, how to work, how to drive, how to eat, where you can go, where you can't go, on and on and on from dog catcher on up. For our own good, you say? Can I make THAT decision for myself? Can I make the decisions that affect MY life myself? I don't need a government to tell me not to drink soda or eat French fries. That is intrusive. I don't need a government telling me what to do on the property I pay taxes and a mortgage on. But they do it anyway.
This is what I'm talking about. Intrusive government. That which crawls into our lives, even the most personal parts of it, and takes over. And while the Constitution may grant "rights", somehow our right to simply being able to live our lives free of government intrusion is slowly being eroded.
Smaller government means limiting powers of government. Advocates of "small government" want what you seem to want by the marvelous examples of "big government" you gave intruding into our lives. We don't need big government , nanny state overseer of our lives. We have freedoms given by God and only governments can take away those freedoms. We need to reduce government power over our lives, repeal laws that are so repressive to our freedom and follow the constitution. The Constitution doesn't give powers to the central government that it has assumed. Our duty now is to constantly be watchdogs , bombard ( all have Email addresses) our congress with complaints of their usurpation of powers reserved for the states ,and vote them out if they refuse to listen to the ones that sent them there to vote in OUR behalf. Those of us who see that government has become to big need to become candidates at the local level ..city councils, mayor, dog catcher, political party prescient members, governors, congressional members and make our bid for less government regulations known. Taxes need to be reduced, leaving the ones who earned it with more control over the fruit of their labors. Congressional pensions and ever increasing salaries should be repealed.

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#884 Jul 24, 2012
The Troll Doll wrote:
I live in Aurora Colorado. I heard the sirens that night and knew something really bad had happened even before I saw the news the next morning. I've been in that theater many times. I want to thank most of you for the outpouring of sympathy for our community. The rest of you, especially the ones that made a special trip to the Denver Forum to spew your hatred I want you to remember this post.
Sometime, somewhere, something bad is going to happen to you. It's just a matter of time. When people are hateful and it hurts you I want you to remember what you did and know that you deserve it.
You reap what you sow people.
Wow, Troll Doll, I'm with you.
A lot of people let their emotions take over before they know the facts.
Hoosier Hillbilly

Hardinsburg, IN

#885 Jul 24, 2012
*=* READ IT & "WEEP" FOR "WE" ALL HAVE CAUSE!*=*

You Reap What You Sow

The basic nature of God's Justice:
GALATIANS 6: 7-9 (KJV)
7: Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
8: For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
9: And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

THE DEFINITIONS:
1. Everything that you do has repercussions. It comes back to you one way or another.
2. You cannot escape the consequences of your actions. What you do comes back to you.
3. You will see the long-term effects of your actions.
4. KARMA - The total effect of a person's actions and conduct during the successive phases of the person's existence, regarded as determining the person's destiny, especially, in his next incarnation.
5. What goes around comes around.
6. Your actions all have consequences. Don't ever be fooled into thinking that your actions don't have consequences. Don't think you can get away with bad choices even if you don't seem to get caught. Remember verse seven tells us that God cannot be mocked. He sees it all. You reap what you sow.

Watch the way you live your life because you reap what you sow.

We sow in one season, we reap in another.

Sow a thought you reap an act. Sow an act, you reap a habit. Sow a habit, you reap a character. Sow a character, you reap a consequence.
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#886 Jul 24, 2012
Think George Costanza would have tripped everyone else, to get out first?

“Up with which, I will not put”

Since: Jul 08

Sao Paulo

#887 Jul 24, 2012
American Drama Queen wrote:
<quoted text>
What do you call one million abortions a year then, scrambled eggs?
How bout 500,000 dead Iraqi's?
More troops commit suicide than die in combat for 2010,2011.
One million us citizens have hiv.
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/ar...
And this makes the fact that 14 innocent people lost their lives OK to you. fy.

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#888 Jul 24, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Think George Costanza would have tripped everyone else, to get out first?
Nice...100,000 clowns outta work and we get stuck with you.

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#889 Jul 24, 2012
Well this thread has gone to shat...have at it trolls...spew your spew

“Denny Crain”

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#890 Jul 24, 2012
Fisherman 808 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, Troll Doll, I'm with you.
A lot of people let their emotions take over before they know the facts.
I don't understand all this anti gun stuff liberals are putting out. The Swiss nearly all have real full auto assault weapons and amo in their home. A gun is just a tool. I just get tired of people who know nothing about guns making stupid statements. 100 round mags are far more likely to jam and it just take a second to drop a 30 round mag and put in another. The last assault ban was a joke on how guns look and not on what they do

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#891 Jul 24, 2012
food for thught wrote:
<quoted text>I'm obviously not a golfer either.

Do you skip the movies (or any other places) because you can't carry a pistol or LAW rocket there or do you go and hope for the best?
I buy it on DVD or Blue Ray. I Got tired of being the first couple in the theater and some ill-mannered patron sitting next to me smacking popcorn like a horse with the last cup of molasses grain.
But to answer your question, I follow the law. I avoid those places if I can. The exception to avoidance is when I vote. I can't carry concealed to a voting place. So I'm unarmed when I vote.
Any business that disallows guns is disallowed my business.

“Antisocialistic”

Level 2

Since: May 12

Lake Charles, LA

#892 Jul 24, 2012
milwaukee69 wrote:
<quoted text>Do your homework first there deadeye...

According to the CPSC, over the past 10 years, illegal explosives or homemade fireworks have typically caused 33% of the injuries associated with fireworks. Illegal explosives have been outlawed by federal law since 1966.

Nearly one-third (31%) of driver deaths ages 16-20 were drinking drivers, which is an increase from 2009.

In 2010, 211 children were killed in drunk driving crashes. Out of those 211 deaths, 131 (62%) were riding with the drunk driver.

Every day in America, another 28 people die as a result of drunk driving crashes.

How's that for legality?
Ok, so the driver was illegal. The car was legal.
Kinda like the guy in this instance versus the guns he carried.

Pardon me for not specifying that I was talking about fireworks that you go to the fireworks stand and buy.
At least it gave you and your butt buddy ,or wingman as you call him, something to do your Beavis and Butthead routine on. So, you're welcome.
Emma

Hawthorn, Australia

#893 Jul 24, 2012
PayThat CEO wrote:
<quoted text>
We could tit for tat laws all day, but let's take marijuana for example. I don't use and don't care one way or the other, but...why is it the government's responsibility to tell me that I can or cannot use it?
See, this is what I don't understand about the "smaller" government argument. Of ALL things, the government should not be involved in my body. They should not tell me that I can or cannot have an abortion or use drugs. I can legally drink myself to death, but can't smoke pot. Makes no sense. Why is the government involved in the business of overseeing our bodies? And that's just one example.
Does "big" government only apply to big business? Do the ridiculous laws and permits and constant barrage of rules and regulations not count when they are hoisted onto the people?
What all these laws say to me is that government(s) believe we are idiots and cannot govern ourselves. There actually needs to be a law for people to wash their hands? Who monitors this law? Are we really THAT stupid that we don't remember our mommies and teachers telling us to wash our hands? Or is this more government intervention?
How about a government telling you that you MUST get your child vaccinated against HPV? I MUST?!?!?! Excuse me???? I, as my child's parent, will make that decision, thank you. More government intervention?
Laws and rules to tell you how to live, how to work, how to drive, how to eat, where you can go, where you can't go, on and on and on from dog catcher on up. For our own good, you say? Can I make THAT decision for myself? Can I make the decisions that affect MY life myself? I don't need a government to tell me not to drink soda or eat French fries. That is intrusive. I don't need a government telling me what to do on the property I pay taxes and a mortgage on. But they do it anyway.
This is what I'm talking about. Intrusive government. That which crawls into our lives, even the most personal parts of it, and takes over. And while the Constitution may grant "rights", somehow our right to simply being able to live our lives free of government intrusion is slowly being eroded.
Such a selfish view. You live in a society, with other people. Not everything you do is just about you. If you want to do whatever the hell you want, go and find somewhere you can live on your own, look after yourself without any help from anyone ever.

The world is not just about you and your rights.

But with a view like that one ^^^ you'll probably completely miss the point.
Emma

Hawthorn, Australia

#894 Jul 24, 2012
Prep-for-Dep wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, so the driver was illegal. The car was legal.
Kinda like the guy in this instance versus the guns he carried.
Pardon me for not specifying that I was talking about fireworks that you go to the fireworks stand and buy.
At least it gave you and your butt buddy ,or wingman as you call him, something to do your Beavis and Butthead routine on. So, you're welcome.
A car's primary purpose is not to kill or injure someone. So while it can kill and injure, there is a damn big difference between it and a gun.

“Denny Crain”

Level 8

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#895 Jul 24, 2012
Emma wrote:
<quoted text>
A car's primary purpose is not to kill or injure someone. So while it can kill and injure, there is a damn big difference between it and a gun.
Good afternoon Emma :)

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