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As long ago as June 2008, Dr. Nicholas Drapela from Oregon State University Chemistry Department wrote this:

My dear colleague Professor Hansen, I believe, has finally gone off the deep end. When you have dedicated the bulk of your career to a cause, and it turns out the cause has been proven false, most people cannot bring themselves to admit the truth.[Hansen's recent claims] contain neither reason nor truth when compared to the volumes of daily literature being published in scientific journals today on climate change. It is not difficult to refute the words of Professor Hansen. On the contrary, one feels it is almost unfair.[...] The global warming 'time bomb', the 'present, dangerous situation','the perfect storm','global cataclysm','disastrous climate changes that spiral dynamically out of humanity's control.' These are the words of an apocalyptic prophet, not a rational scientist.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/technology/miloy...
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Earthling-1 wrote:
As long ago as June 2008, Dr. Nicholas Drapela from Oregon State University Chemistry Department wrote this..
Drapela is a joke. He is a young organic chemistry teacher without training or peer-reviewed publishing in climatology or even atmospheric chemistry. In fact, he has co-published just one scientific paper (on an anti-fungal acid). His site is full of praise for the long-discredited Oregon Petition, and the researchers he cites are political partisans such as Carter, Spencer and the Robinsons (still hiding out in their mountain shed, selling bomb shelters and raging about socialism). In other words, Drapela is an unqualified denier-hobbyist just like you. No wonder you like him.

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Nauseous wrote:
Drapela is a joke.
I'm sure you'll tell me that all Hansen's critics are jokes and he's Mr Perfect.
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No wonder you like him.
I don't know the man, so can't comment.
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Critics of Hansen

Andrew Freedman, an environmental journalist and columnist at the Washington Post, believes the American Meteorological Society erred in giving Hansen its 2009 Carl-Gustaf Rossby Research Medal: "By citing his 'clear communication of climate science in the public arena,' they may have actually sanctioned his political advocacy. Such advocacy... threatens to paint the AMS as having a political agenda too." Other AMS members have also criticized the award.

Physicist Freeman Dyson is critical of Hansen's climate-change activism. "The person who is really responsible for this overestimate of global warming is Jim Hansen. He consistently exaggerates all the dangers... Hansen has turned his science into ideology.” Dyson "doesn’t know what he’s talking about", Hansen responded. "He should first do his homework." Dyson stated in an interview that the argument with Hansen was exaggerated by the New York Times, stating that he and Hansen are "friends, but we don't agree on everything."

After Hansen's arrest in West Virginia, New York Times columnist Andrew Revkin wrote: "Dr. Hansen has pushed far beyond the boundaries of the conventional role of scientists, particularly government scientists, in the environmental policy debate." [86] In 2009, Hansen advocated the participation of citizens at a March 2 protest at the Capitol Power Plant in Washington, D.C. Hansen stated, "We need to send a message to Congress and the president that we want them to take the actions that are needed to preserve climate for young people and future generations and all life on the planet".

New Yorker journalist Elizabeth Kolbert believes Hansen is "increasingly isolated among climate activists." Eileen Claussen, president of the Pew Center on Global Climate Change, said that "I view Jim Hansen as heroic as a scientist.... But I wish he would stick to what he really knows. Because I don't think he has a realistic idea of what is politically possible..."
New York Times climate columnist Christa Marshall asks if Hansen still matters in the ongoing climate debate, noting that he "has irked many longtime supporters with his scathing attacks against President Obama's plan for a cap-and-trade system." "The right wing loves what he's doing," said Joseph Romm, a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, a think tank. Hansen said that he had to speak out, since few others could explain the links between politics and the climate models. "You just have to say what you think is right," he said.
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Northie wrote:
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Drapela is a joke. He is a young organic chemistry teacher without training or peer-reviewed publishing in climatology or even atmospheric chemistry. In fact, he has co-published just one scientific paper (on an anti-fungal acid). His site is full of praise for the long-discredited Oregon Petition, and the researchers he cites are political partisans such as Carter, Spencer and the Robinsons (still hiding out in their mountain shed, selling bomb shelters and raging about socialism). In other words, Drapela is an unqualified denier-hobbyist just like you. No wonder you like him.
I suppose you have the expertise to make that determination, and yet here you are, on topix, when you should be out "saving the planet" Mr. Climatology Expert.

How is his bullshit any different than yours or any other liberals bullshit?
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Northie wrote:
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Drapela is a joke. He is a young organic chemistry teacher without training or peer-reviewed publishing in climatology or even atmospheric chemistry. In fact, he has co-published just one scientific paper (on an anti-fungal acid). His site is full of praise for the long-discredited Oregon Petition, and the researchers he cites are political partisans such as Carter, Spencer and the Robinsons (still hiding out in their mountain shed, selling bomb shelters and raging about socialism). In other words, Drapela is an unqualified denier-hobbyist just like you. No wonder you like him.
BTW, this person you're speaking ofmay only be an organic chemistry teacher, but he still has better credentials than Al Gore.
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Who wrote:
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I suppose you have the expertise to make that determination, and yet here you are, on topix, when you should be out "saving the planet" Mr. Climatology Expert.
How is his bullshit any different than yours or any other liberals bullshit?
"Liberals"? We aren't discussing politics here, and you have no idea what mine are. Why bring up that crap? Maybe because it's your only connection to the climate issue?

The thread concerns a scientific paper by the chief scientist at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. In four decades of research, his work on climate has been affirmed by every national scientific academy of any repute. The man led climate science testimony to Congress 24 years ago. He's been around.

But you prefer the opinions of unqualified, unpublished cranks with no evidence, but whose views on climatology just happen to echo those of the oil industry?

Of course you do.
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Northie wrote:
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"Liberals"? We aren't discussing politics here, and you have no idea what mine are. Why bring up that crap? Maybe because it's your only connection to the climate issue?
The thread concerns a scientific paper by the chief scientist at NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies. In four decades of research, his work on climate has been affirmed by every national scientific academy of any repute. The man led climate science testimony to Congress 24 years ago. He's been around.
But you prefer the opinions of unqualified, unpublished cranks with no evidence, but whose views on climatology just happen to echo those of the oil industry?
Of course you do.
Why bring up that "crap"? Because that's what globull warming is all about POLITICS. Politics and raping the taxpayers.

I will longer be reading or responding to your or any other econut on topix as I will be taking your advice and no longer listening to the "opinions of unqualified, unpublished cranks with no evidence", and since you (and Al Gore) fall under that category you are irrelevent and as I suspected full of shit.

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