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Really
Hollywood, FL
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Michael Allred wrote: <quoted text> Ah, so you believe in whatever you're told is true from minute to minute. Right. Gotcha... So, since you've now admitted that you form no actual opinions of your own, and in fact don't even think about THOSE, we're to take you seriously why? You just recited the liberal credo.
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“You are not your bank account.”
Joined: Feb 6, 2008
Comments: 1256
Norman, Oklahoma
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Norman, OK
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Really wrote: <quoted text> You just recited the liberal credo. The liberal credo being "Don't listen to idiots who can't even be bothered to think for more than a couple of nanoseconds about whatever slogan they've just read off of a bumper sticker".
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Really
Hollywood, FL
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Michael Allred wrote: <quoted text> The liberal credo being "Don't listen to idiots who can't even be bothered to think for more than a couple of nanoseconds about whatever slogan they've just read off of a bumper sticker". Again with your credo.... tell us more dumb ass.
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“You are not your bank account.”
Joined: Feb 6, 2008
Comments: 1256
Norman, Oklahoma
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Norman, OK
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Really wrote: <quoted text> Again with your credo.... tell us more dumb ass. 'Kay. You should really stop trying to make your argument by just telling your opponent that they're correct. And then proving it...
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“Climate Realist”
Joined: Dec 20, 2008
Comments: 12412
Dallas, TX
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Michael Allred wrote: Ah, so you believe in whatever you're told is true from minute to minute. Right. Gotcha... You think common sense means not thinking for yourself? Who told you that, a college proffesor? So, since you've now admitted that you form no actual opinions of your own, and in fact don't even think about THOSE, we're to take you seriously why? You think I have no opinions? Can't you read?
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Joined: Mar 11, 2009
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Connecticut
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Really wrote: <quoted text> Are you truly that stupid? C02 obviously does exist... has anyone proven that it is a direct cause of global warming? NO. Is global warming man made? Hell NO. Tell me oh unwise one... how is it that mars (you know, 4th planet from our sun) is experiencing the same rate of global warming as we are... tell us oh unwise parrot...... did man cause that on mars too? I'm sorry i wasn't aware mars and earth were the same, had the same ozone layer, the same aptmosphere, oceans, winds, climate, plants, animals etc. Are you seriously trying to compare earth and mars and saying that humans CAN"T be respinsilbe for global warming here becuase some other planet that is vastly different than earth in almost every way is warming? That is the most unscientific thing i have ever heard.
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Joined: Mar 11, 2009
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Connecticut
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Really wrote: <quoted text> Ahh another spread the wealth idiot speaks. If you have money, why should you be taxed differently than those who don't? You should be taxed on money earned not money saved genius. Granted you probably don't have much if any saved... so that would not affect you... FL has what is known as a liquid assets tax....$40K or more in a bank (savings acct) gets taxed at 1%.... this is another tax after already paying income tax. Although I can't imagine anyone smart enough to earn enough to save and not being smart enough to invest. Yet, You lame ass libs want to tax success and reward failing... typical. Flat rate tax is fair... but you lib losers refuse to pay your fair share... you think that rich folks owe you something. Get a job and earn your own money you sponge. then why is capital gains taxed less than income. We reward sitting on your ass with money in the stock market MORE than we reward work - worker's wages are taxed more. Why should't assets be taxed if houses and cars and other property are? What is the differnece? Why isn't there a 100% inheritance tax... You say you should EARN your money - no problem. Slap the same tax on work as capital gains, savings, etc. Insitute a 100% inheritance tax so everyone has to EARN their own money and fine no problem. Or are you advocating sucking money out of the system by sitting on your ass (stocks, interest) is more valuable to society that working your ass off as a policeman or nurse? Are you advocating that sitting on your ass and living off grandpa's inheritance is any less leeching?
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Mr X
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Bill Maher is not only obnoxious, he's a moron, and so is his audience, who would clap at a monkey throwing it's crap in their faces.
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Joined: Mar 11, 2009
Comments: 1925
Connecticut
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Vernon Rockville, CT
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Saul Alinsky wrote: <quoted text> Demagoguery and spin? Is that what the far-left now calls simple questions? I guess so... Isn't spin saying that "too much CO2 causes problems..." and then by extrapolation saying that there is too much CO2 in our atmosphere because you believe it to be the mechanism for global warming, and you then believe global warming is caused by man as opposed to a natural phenomenon? Aren't you making quite the leap? By the way, thanks for disregarding each and every question. It's nice of you to add so f'ing much to the conversation. P.S.– You say, "And ANY amount of arsenic is a pollutant because we have no need of arsenic in our biology." Apparently you have nothing CORRECT to add to the conversation. Nicely done, jackass. "Despite arsenic's reputation as a poison, it actually has fairly low toxicity in comparison with some other metals, although with chronic exposure there is some concern about arsenic's effect on chromosomes and its carcinogenicity. In fact, arsenic may even be essential and functional in humans in very small amounts. It has been shown to be essential in rats and other animals, though it is found in higher concentrations in them than in humans. Organic arsenic as arsenates (+5 form of arsenic) and elemental arsenic both found naturally in the earth and in foods do not readily produce toxicity. In fact, they are handled fairly easily by the body and eliminated by the kidneys. The inorganic arsenites or trivalent forms of arsenic, such as arsenic trioxide used industrially and found as a food contaminate, seem to create the problems. They accumulate in the body, particularly in the skin, hair, and nails, but also in internal organs. On the average, there is about 10-20 mg. of arsenic in the human body; higher levels may lead to problems. Arsenic can accumulate when kidney function is decreased. Luckily, absorption of arsenic is fairly low, usually less than 5 percent, so most is eliminated in the feces and some in the urine." http://www.healthy.net/scr/article.asp... I have no idea about arsenic personally, but you do realize that he said we have "no need of arsenic" - which you take issue with, then post a big post about how it isn't harmful - but still nothing that says we need it, so you really haven't debunked what was said at all. Whether something innocuous but unnecessary is a pollutant would be the real question - and in some cases that answer would be yes, in others no.
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Joined: Mar 11, 2009
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Connecticut
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Vernon Rockville, CT
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Saul Alinsky wrote: <quoted text> "AS for if we find out that a few degrees warmer is better? No thanks. I don't think we can EVER know the long term impacts of meddling with the temperature - so abating the CO2 We are producing artificially(and only started doing so in the last few hundred years) is one thing - trying to target certain temps or climates is a whole other ball game." So is it or is it not correct that CO2 has greatly fluctuated over the life of the planet, most often without the benefit of man? Are you positive that CO2 is now driving AGW? Are you not advocating "meddling with the temperature"? Since CO2 is just a trace gas, 95% of which is generated by natural factors, can you guarantee there is any benefit from CO2 sequestration? Can you guarantee that this "cure" won't be worse than your touted AGW "disease"? Why should the rest of us believe the AGW hysterics when you have been wrong so many times in the last century in regard to ice ages and global warming? No I am not argueing for "meddling with the temperature" at all. Eliminating CO2 can't possible be "meddling with the temperate". If CO2 affects temperature, then reducing our industrial output would STOP us from meddling with the temperature, would it it not. If it doesn't then reducing our output would do nothing. Don't forget we have only been burning fossile fules for a few hundred years. chaning over to renewable energy and reducing carbon emission would put us BACK to the way we were for the 10s of thousands of years before that. If we found a new power source tomorrow that spewed a new, unknown gas into the air but was otherwise cheap and plentiful - would we adopt it all over the world without testing the gas? Does it have to be PROVEN 100% to be harmful before we would hesitate to start dumping it into the air or does it have to be proven 100% SAFE before we would do that? I would think we'd have to prove it safe, no? So even if AGW has a 25% chance of being true - if there was a 25% chance this hypoithetical gas was toxic and would kill everyone in 10 years, you'd be ok with it becuase the new energy is cheaper? really? Deniers always contend that unless AGW is proven 100% beyond any doubt we should do nothing - despite the fact that YOU have been wrong so many times in the past. Since when has spewing ANYTHING into the air been innocuous (CFCs, SO2, agent organge, DDT, etc). In most cases spewing lots fo anything into the air and pretending it's safe has never seemed to pan out in the past - so I'm all for reducing our emissions of CO2. Lastly - please cite the times scientists have been "wrong" on this. I can find only one. I'll take their one to the hundreds od things we have put in the air and water that we thought were safe and ended up not to be.
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Joined: Mar 11, 2009
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Connecticut
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Vernon Rockville, CT
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I Am DigitaP wrote: <quoted text> It FEEDS the PLANTS, that GIVE YOU OXYGEN you insipid twit. Greenhouse gas has not EVER been proven to be responsible for warming of the atmosphere and it can be easily shown it is NOT heating the atmosphere at large. It MUST be trapping at 50,000 feet. If it were trapping it we would have FOUND it in 30 years. And lest you claim MORE MAGICAL FORCES made the CO2 magically DROP and start MIXING so well we can't even photograph it, there's no reported rise in atmospheric light distortion due to the incredible heat necessary to MELT TWO ICE CAPS and disrupt three continents. Actually the leveraging of CO2 making dramatically increased humidity: MANDATORY has been repeatedly shown NOT to be happening. So it's all lies as soon as you hit 'reply' like it always is. great so if we are allwing the CO2 to increase we are also allowing more plants to grow right? I mean we are setting aside land to allow plants to grow to use up that CO2 and turn it into oxygen... Since wea re actually REDUCING plant life at the same time we are vastingly increasing CO2 this arugment holds no water. There are no plants for it to feed, so it doesn't get converted. The earth has run on this cycle for millions of years. Animals - Co2 - PLants - O2. How can you think that increasing CO2 off the scale and reducing plant life at the same time WON'T cause and imbalance? Who in their right mind would think it WON'T have some effect? In the past CO2 has fluctuated and so has temp, but plants have alwasy been alowed to increase to soak up the CO2 in those cases, but not anymore.
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Joined: Mar 11, 2009
Comments: 1925
Connecticut
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Vernon Rockville, CT
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I Am DigitaP wrote: <quoted text> It FEEDS the PLANTS, that GIVE YOU OXYGEN you insipid twit. Cow manuer feeds the plants too. If you put a couple barrels on your garden in the spring it works great. If someone dumps a few hundred metric tons of cow manuer on your yard - would you consider that plant food, or a mess to clean up? You wouldn't sue them right? Becusae it's not a mess to clean up it's plant food and your grass should just get fed. Or would it be a problem becuase your plants in your yard can't possible use and breakdown all that cow manure - becuase you don't enough plants to handle all that. Sounds kind of like the CO2 problem - no?
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“dening those who deny nature. ”
Joined: Jun 21, 2007
Comments: 7205
Norfolk va
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Fort Walton Beach, FL
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Northie wrote: <quoted text> Nuclear energy? Let's get moving and build a decent waste repository, let's be prepared to pay developing countries for NOT building bombs, and let's come to terms with the actual, unsubsidized cost of nuclear power. Then let's realize that nukes take a VERY long time to build, so there is no freakin' way they can meet our urgent need to cut emissions dramatically within 15 years. High costs and long waits; that's nuclear power. Gas and wind will get us further, faster. Nuclear and solar will take it from there. I agree with all that except the last two lines. Wind and solar have been tried before in the exact same manner they are trying it now with poor results. Doing something the exact same way repeatedly and expecting different results is insane.
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“Mocking Liberal Brain Disorder”
Joined: May 17, 2007
Comments: 9848
Cleveland, OH
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New Haven, IN
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Deserves a repost: Al Gore / AIT Index, Vol. 18: Globally averaged temperatures have dropped .151°F (.084°C) since An Inconvenient Truth was released For the record, through October, 2009, globally averaged temperatures have gone down .151°F (.084°C) since An Inconvenient Truth was released at the Sundance Film Festival on January 24, 2006. This marks the 39th out of the 47 months since An Inconvenient Truth was released that globally averaged temperatures have been less than they were when AIT was released. Truly inconvenient. http://algorelied.com/...
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Saul Alinsky
Pittsburgh, PA
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Northie wrote: <quoted text> Nuclear energy? Let's get moving and build a decent waste repository, let's be prepared to pay developing countries for NOT building bombs, and let's come to terms with the actual, unsubsidized cost of nuclear power. Then let's realize that nukes take a VERY long time to build, so there is no freakin' way they can meet our urgent need to cut emissions dramatically within 15 years. High costs and long waits; that's nuclear power. Gas and wind will get us further, faster. Nuclear and solar will take it from there. So you and your enviro cohorts have stalled any and all attempts at a respository solution. You and your enviro cohorts have stalled and, indeed, nearly put the nuclear industry out of business with continual abuse in the courts, making plants more costly, more time-consuming, and difficult as hell to build in any efficient manner. Then you come on this board and decry the lack of a repository and the length and cost of building a nuke plant? Are you for real?
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NobodyYouKnow
Toronto, Canada
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Jeffery Wright wrote: Deserves a repost: Al Gore / AIT Index, Vol. 18: Globally averaged temperatures have dropped .151°F (.084°C) since An Inconvenient Truth was released Total crap. Land temperatures from boreholes show strong increase. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_sc/... Independently verified check of the processing. and Oceans have also steadily warmed. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/2009... Now that constitutes 97%+ of the 'surface temperature' so there is no way that you can find a strong cooling. I suspect that you are just cutting and pasting some confused idiots claims who got it third hand from Rush Limbaugh..
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Saul Alinsky
Pittsburgh, PA
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CTEd wrote: <quoted text> I have no idea about arsenic personally, but you do realize that he said we have "no need of arsenic" - which you take issue with, then post a big post about how it isn't harmful - but still nothing that says we need it, so you really haven't debunked what was said at all. Whether something innocuous but unnecessary is a pollutant would be the real question - and in some cases that answer would be yes, in others no. What is it with you libs? You can't even provide a direct quote and argue the actual point. Since you are so f'ing lazy you can't even seem to go back to what "he" said, here is his quote from post #1747. "And ANY amount of arsenic is a pollutant because we have no need of arsenic in our biology." My link clearly shows that he's full of shit, that arsenic is PART of our biology, and that in small amounts it causes no harm. Jesus H. Christ... do you libs ever argue the point or simply always make shit up? And by the way, I really don't give a rat's ass about arsenic. The only reason I even brought it up is because "LessHypeMoreFact" or whatever he/she calls himself once again threw shit against the wall hoping it would buttress his opinion. Wrong again...
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Tampa, FL
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NobodyYouKnow wrote: <quoted text> Total crap. Land temperatures from boreholes show strong increase. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091026/ap_on_sc/... Independently verified check of the processing. and Oceans have also steadily warmed. http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2009/2009... Now that constitutes 97%+ of the 'surface temperature' so there is no way that you can find a strong cooling. I suspect that you are just cutting and pasting some confused idiots claims who got it third hand from Rush Limbaugh.. Y2K also known as the millennium bug was an imaginary computer problem related to year 2000. A threat that was greatly exaggerated by Clinton/Gore to sell over-priced solutions and stimulate the economy... Global warming is the accelerated warming of the atmosphere due to human activities, the Gore Skeptics rant... To sell over-priced solutions, create imaginary green jobs, and lies to stimulate the economy... One crazy imaginary Y2K phantom in a lifetime is bad enough, but two imaginary phantoms in a lifetime, Global warming, is two too much... The inebriated Foolishness and Poison of Scare Tactics Liberalism
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“Climate Realist”
Joined: Dec 20, 2008
Comments: 12412
Ansbach, Germany
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NobodyYouKnow wrote: ...I suspect that you are just cutting and pasting some confused idiots claims who got it third hand from Rush Limbaugh. You get Rush in Canada? Are you a 24/7 member? http://www.rushlimbaugh.com
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Northie
Spokane, WA
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Saul Alinsky wrote: <quoted text> So you and your enviro cohorts have stalled any and all attempts at a respository solution. You and your enviro cohorts have stalled and, indeed, nearly put the nuclear industry out of business with continual abuse in the courts, making plants more costly, more time-consuming, and difficult as hell to build in any efficient manner. Then you come on this board and decry the lack of a repository and the length and cost of building a nuke plant? Are you for real? The first rule for radicals, Mr. Alinsky, is to realize that those who disagree with you are not all radicals. I'm very disappointed that Nevada's voters will not keep Reid unless he stops the Yucca Mountain waste dump, but I'm not surprised. Are you? No one wants the waste in their backyard--ever, under any circumstances--so disposing of it will cost far more than just the expense of digging a hole. That is perfectly reasonable. Blaming 'the environmental cohort" for this is meaningless and wrong. Many of Yucca's most powerful opponents are local conservatives, and many of its proponents are enviros like me. In general, environmentalists are split right down the middle on nuclear power. When you stop building straw men to attack, you might see that.
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