Bill Maher: Climate Change Deniers Are "So Stupid They Make ME Question Evolution"

Northie wrote:

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"At 800 to 1000 ppm, the world faces multiple miseries, including:
• Sea level rise of 80 feet to 250 feet at a rate of 6 inches a decade (or more).
• Desertification of one third the planet and drought over half the planet, plus the loss of all inland glaciers.
• More than 70% of all species going extinct, plus extreme ocean acidification."
55 million years ago--the last time CO2 reached this level--it caused the extinction of most life, it filled the atmosphere with deadly hydrogen sulfide and turned the seas into gigantic stagnant cesspools.
http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/26/is-450-...

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CTEd wrote:

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Are we talking about the same Reagan that passed the biggest tax increase in the history of the united states (TEFRA)?
Is that how he proved that lower taxes increase collections?

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Northie wrote:

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"At 800 to 1000 ppm, the world faces multiple miseries, including:
• Sea level rise of 80 feet to 250 feet at a rate of 6 inches a decade (or more).
• Desertification of one third the planet and drought over half the planet, plus the loss of all inland glaciers.
• More than 70% of all species going extinct, plus extreme ocean acidification."
55 million years ago--the last time CO2 reached this level--it caused the extinction of most life, it filled the atmosphere with deadly hydrogen sulfide and turned the seas into gigantic stagnant cesspools.
http://climateprogress.org/2008/04/26/is-450-...

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Mac-7 wrote:

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That's doomsday nonsense that is not even remotely close to happening.

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NobodyYouKnow wrote:

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It has happened and so can ( thus not nonsense ) and at our current rate of about 3ppm per year it would take about 150 years of so of 'status quo'. So that is an *example* from paleoclimatology. We will run into the desertification and loss of human population MUCH sooner, probably in 50 years.
http://tinyurl.com/yb467z5
Try looking at the map and understanding how this WILL apply to you. On the other hand, the extinction event is more likely to occur at over 4C warming, though it cannot be ruled out at anything above 2C warming with present science.
http://tinyurl.com/yec8a52

tina anne wrote:

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So when did that happen?

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CTEd wrote:

As far as I know we don't know of any guilty people at Gitmo... perhaps if we gave the trials....

Brian_G wrote:

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Then why is President Obama keeping them in Gitmo? Summary justice, a military hearing is good enough for them.
Look, I'll compromise, power the chair with wind and solar power, I'm going out of my way to be fair.

Brian_G wrote:

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Then why is President Obama keeping them in Gitmo? Summary justice, a military hearing is good enough for them.
Look, I'll compromise, power the chair with wind and solar power, I'm going out of my way to be fair.

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tina anne wrote:

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So when did that happen? I do remeber that one of the big arguments against what Reagan was doing at the time was about Trickle Down Economics and how they were trotting out supposed experts claiming it could not work. Funny part was it worked better than anyone could hope.
What may of happened was your confused about thefact that the goverment actually experienced an increase in tax revenues during that period. But that turned out to be one of the great benifits of lowering taxes was that people did more things with money that were taxed and that resulted in more people being employed and paying taxes on thier payrolls rather than collecting money from the goverment.
Which is why People still talk about what a great president Reagan was and there are still those who remeber the old slogan ABC (Anybody But Carter).

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mdbuilder wrote:

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Absolutely right. That's not to say he won't kick more of them loose though. He feels the word of 'overstressed' soldiers, who captured many of them on the battlefield, is unreliable and possibly biased.
They could have been modern Gunga Dins.

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CTEd wrote:

...Despite that we held many people for years who we knew were innocent becuase no country would take them (such as the Ulgers, but you won't take the time to read abou them)...

Real americans want the guilty punished, but real americans also believe in the words innocent until proven guilty and fair trials. Killing people without proving their guilt is waht the terrorists do, not Americans. We aren't afraid to have trials and obey the law - at least we used to not be afraid.

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CTEd wrote:

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The government hasn't given us alternatives because we don't want them. People don't want to spend money on solar panels, people don't want Nuke plants in their town.
Until we are charged for the pollution we make (and we should be) we won't demand products that product less pollution, and it won't be economical to sell them to us.
What justification is there for you to pollute my air for free? Why does everyone get a free pass to pollute as much as they want. You could legally sit your car in your driveway and run it 24/7 if you are rich and don't care a whit.
If you ran your water hose on your property line 24/7 for no reason and it flooded your neighbor's basement (if he were downhill from you) he could sue you, but fill his air with pollution and it's fine.
Why?

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CTEd wrote:

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So you agree we need to get more progressive. If the top 20% only pay 86.3% of the taxes they aren't paying up...
When you realize that the top 20% account for 85% of all net worth and 93% of all financial wealth in the country.
If the top 20% account for 85% of all taxes paid, and 85% of all wealth, then it means that the top 20% are paying the same percentage on their money as the bottom 80%- meaning not a very progressive tax.
The tax system is more complicated than that, but essentially the top 20% paying 86.5% of the total tax burden is perfectly in line with what it should be, actually lower depending how progressive you want your taxes.

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CTEd wrote:

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uh huh.. and how many were captured "on the battlefiel" Considering the very inconvenient fact that more than 50% of all the people ever held at Gitmo were released without charge, with the US admitting they were not terrorists.
Despite that we held many people for years who we knew were innocent becuase no country would take them (such as the Ulgers, but you won't take the time to read abou them).
Contrary to popular belief the overwhelming majority of people at Gitmo were not captured "on the battlefield" they were taken from mosques while praying, or out of their homes ie - they were "arrested". This was based on intellegence, rumor, tips (which we paid for), and other methods.
Real americans want the guilty punished, but real americans also believe in the words innocent until proven guilty and fair trials. Killing people without proving their guilt is waht the terrorists do, not Americans. We aren't afraid to have trials and obey the law - at least we used to not be afraid.

Brian_G wrote:

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China would be happy to take them, they are good at capital punishment carbon caps.
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When did we ever have civil trials for illegal combatants, or POW's for that matter? That's not an American belief; we want to kill the Tangos, root out their evil ideology, and move on to the next battlefield. Iran is building nuclear bombs, now isn't the time for pussyfooting around.

Really wrote:

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Hey I have a new tax just for idiots like you... stupid thought tax.
I was going to submit it to obama.... but he said it is already in process... called the lemming-aide tax otherwise known as Cap and Trade.
Since you think we should be taxed on unverifiable, unproven and imaginary things..... I hope he gets santa and the reign deer... I just know that when he does that world trip in one night, that those reign deer are farting like crazy....
Funny, that this idiot president of YOURs, flies on AF1 with Opie and his wife (3 passengers aside from flight crew) and the traditional air force fighter escort... then has the gall to talk about other folks making those imaginary foot prints.... geee he is one of the worse imaginary polluters in the world... buy his own standards.
Can ya say hypocrisy? Is it the norm for libs to be outraged over supposedly bad behavior of others while they themselves do the EXACT thing they rail about.

Really wrote:

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Aww another welfare percipient spread the we lath douche bag.
The top 10% pay just over 90% of taxes genius.
There were 2 congressmen who pushed a flat rate tax... 10%... no deductions and EVERYONE paid.... unfortunately you dums voted that down.
Simply stated, you think only white folks should have to pay taxes.... idiot.