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Ethiopian Generals and Somali Warlords

Posted on Wednesday, August 2, 2006. By Ken Silverstein . Sources Add Ethiopia to the list of countries cashing in on their cooperation with the Bush Administration's "war on terrorism." Two weeks ago, with the ...

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Wayne Long

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Aug 3, 2006
 
Ethiopian Generals and Somali Warlords
In the next 5-10 years when Amerian lifestyle and security go down the tubes thanks to really inane press commentary influencing US policy , may we all remember that Silverstein and Harpers were among those too stupid to realze that in order to win a war like this at least cost in US lives, a true superpower plays the Great Game. Playing the black hats against the blacker hats of America's enemies saves US military lives and treasure -HELLO!!!!
Yashika

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Aug 4, 2006
 
Is it true Eritrea is sending Weapons and Cash sent from Libia and Iran to Somali (UIC)?
leulemenber

Washington, DC

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Aug 5, 2006
 
I am happy my troop with fight somali.
Luul

Columbus, OH

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Aug 16, 2006
 
I personally hate the Ethiopian government and anybody who is with it because what they are doing is not good. For example, tras-passing Somalia's land. I am Somalian and there is nothing that I love more than East Africa wether it is Somalia, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, etc. I love my people, but the thing that we have to understand is that we have to help each other instead of listening to this bulsh1t America controlled by a stupid man and followers. He is out smarting us ya'll because he using other East Africans against other East Africans...Think about it :)
AMK

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Aug 21, 2006
 
One thing everyone should look at is that the world looked the other direaction when we (ethiopians) marched striaght into Somalia. Doesn't that make you say, the world doesn't care cuz Somalia is a treat not only to ethiopians but to the whole world.
Luul

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Aug 22, 2006
 
How is Somalia a threat to the whole world?
If you say the "Whole world" you are including the Islamic countries whether they are Arab or other Muslims. Also, not only Somalia that the world looked away, but also Rewanda, etc. We Somalis will bring this Warlords down with Yusuf and we will be powerfull. Just look and see how it will be five years from now, you Habeshas :)
Luul

Columbus, OH

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Aug 22, 2006
 
The ICU all the way my brother :)
TruEthiopian

Alexandria, VA

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Aug 23, 2006
 
leulemenber wrote:
I am happy my troop with fight somali.
i agree with you... Somali is getting out of control and patience can go so far. I guess this is just another reminder from my people to go over there and give the rotten child a spanking.
Luul

Columbus, OH

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Aug 23, 2006
 
Maybe you are the one who needs a rotten spanking !!!!!!!!
Barreh

Spruce Grove, Canada

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Aug 28, 2006
 
To all the participants of the debate, hear this. The matter is not between of Somalia and Ethiopia, between, a freghtened dictator and crazy Molallahs. I don't see many Ethiopans supporting Meles except his clan ( the Tigrean)and I don't see all the Somalian clan supporting the molallahs. However, the is one thing that is certain, Meles will lose the power within next 3 years because of the Olf, ONlf and all the other opposition groups. Meles will not dare to go all the way to Mogadushu because that will a suicid for him, the UIC Can not even go to Bosasso forget Addis Abeba. So, there will be some skirmishes along the border and so on. Please Refraine from creating the two brother people of Somalia and Ethiopia
Barreh Wais
A Native of Ethiopia of Somali decent.
G_HAD

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Aug 28, 2006
 
yep life was great under the ethiopian backed warlords.Yep teh "terrorists" have managed to open up the port, remove roadblocks and open the international airport.Muqdisho is now a city of peace.The government is full of ethiopian backed warlords.Do you think any sane somali would want a return to the ethiopian backed tyanny?It is a knwo technique for politicians who have long passsed their sell by date, to use teh boogey man of terrorists to stick on thier absolute dictatorship(zenwai)
Nazareth-US

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Aug 30, 2006
 
People, it doesn't mater were you come from what you have to think about is that for the people who live in Ethiopia, Somalia and Eritrea. We all are not live in our country so that every body has to solve the problems instead of lighting fire on innocent people. We don’t need any fights we need peace. Thanks!
mike

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Aug 31, 2006
 
can we just getalooone after all we are the most
asmarino 11

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Nov 10, 2006
 
we eritreans will not allow the islamist to be over powered.to all those saying they would like to see ethiopian (scum) troops fight the somalis, they are forgeting brothers of somalia will fight along side them. long live eritrea and somalia. death to this smelly prison called "ethiopia"
Gerrie Lijam

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Dec 3, 2006
 
Yashika, Good try. To gain sympathy & support from your former European, American & Isreali allies, you were probably hoping to make the Somali-Ethiopian 50 years old border-war as if it was an Islamic vs christian war.
Too bad, simply because Herman Cohen, the former US Secretary of State for African Affairs has already exposed Ethiopia, feeding the World false information regarding Al-Kaida in Somalia, to gain sympathy & support from Europeans, Americans & Isrealis.
As for Eritrea, the present regime in Ethiopia was implimented by Eritreans, therefore, Eritreans don't see the need to use Al-Kaida or Somalia to topple the Ethiopian regime installed by Eritrea.
Did you choose to ignor that Mohammar Kadafi of Libya was supporting Ethiopian dictator Menghistu Hailemariam for 17 years to wage war against Eritreans?
The Eritreans forced the world to submit, surrender & recognize the Eritrean's will & determination for independent Eritrea & singlehandedly changed the African geopolitical map for good. Therefore, Eritreans are NOT interested in global sympathy or support from Isreal, Arabs, Europeans, Africans or the old USA.
Let me ask you, why would Eritreans need to surrender, submit & scumb to anyone after forcing the world to recognize Eritrean independence?
Yashika, the old "christian Island" trick is expired & therefore, Ethiopia needs to fight it's own wars, Somalia or no Somalia, for the rest of the world is busy untangling it's own braided selv-serving conflicts. Good luck to Ethiopia.
From, just another realistic Eritrean.
Yashika wrote:
Is it true Eritrea is sending Weapons and Cash sent from Libia and Iran to Somali (UIC)?
naol

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Dec 3, 2006
 
why one of the memberes of ethiopian parliament related the war going on with oromo land and oromo peples?
Selam

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Dec 27, 2006
 
As an Ethiopian I am very disappointed with what the government of Ethiopia is doing to Somalia by being allied with America but what we have to understand is that most Ethiopians are against this war but have no power to stop it is Meles Zenawi and his people that deserve punishment as well as bush for this if Somalia should fight back it should be in Tigray because the rest of the place in Ethiopia will stand by Somalia and the opposition party but against meles Zenawi if there is a terrorist we should be scared of it would be Bush & meles Zenawi.
muziky68

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Dec 27, 2006
 
I think what is happening in Somalia is a clear indication that evil is running that area. The Islamic Court got the support of the people mainly because it managed to bring a relative law and order. They cleaned Souther Somalia from evil warlords who had been rampaging that country fro more than 15 years. They were supported by the Somalis not because the people want their Sharia law or admire them. They were supported because the people hated so miuch the warlords.

Now the court instead of capitalizing the support of the people to bring Somalis together they made some serious miscalculations. They threatend Puntland and Somaliland. They recapture Kissimayo by killing many civilains. They impose strict Islam on Somalis. Above all they claimed Ogaden to be part of SOmalis and decalfred Jihad of Ethiopia. This gave Meles Zenawi what he wanted. An excuse to enter Somalia. "Here you go ..Haven't you heard Aweys ..? " declared the rulers in Addis Ababa.

Meles wanted tension in Somalia because of two reasons:

1. He wants to obscure the situation in Ethiopia and all his domestic problems. Last year he lost in the election and rejected by the Ethiopian people. He is in power by a coup d' etats.

2. He wants to keep the Americans by his side.

The Islamic Court should have known all these and should have moved carefully. They should have tohght first of Somalia rathern than imposing their fanatism.

The COurt invited onto itself all these messe. Now they have brought back the warlords they get rid off back in June.

Anyway, It is my prayer that the world will put more pressure on Meles and I hope the Court will learn a good lesson and come to dialog. They should stop the talk of a long war and instead save Mogadishu and Kissimayo.

Dear Somali friends, I am an Ethiopia. Let me tell you this. Meles is not like the americans. He does not hesitate to clean up Mogadishu. Please remember what he did back in November. There were peaceful resistance against his regime. He went door by door and put in detention more than 200000 youngs in 5 or 6 detention camps. If there is any resistance he will flatten Mogadisgi. I call you put maximum pressure on the COurt to save Mogadishu.

The best tool to defeat Meles is dialog and peace. he is does not like that.

With Regards,

Musiky
AKB

Greensboro, NC

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Dec 27, 2006
 
Selam wrote:
As an Ethiopian I am very disappointed with what the government of Ethiopia is doing to Somalia by being allied with America but what we have to understand is that most Ethiopians are against this war but have no power to stop it is Meles Zenawi and his people that deserve punishment as well as bush for this if Somalia should fight back it should be in Tigray because the rest of the place in Ethiopia will stand by Somalia and the opposition party but against meles Zenawi if there is a terrorist we should be scared of it would be Bush & meles Zenawi.
Power or no power, it is the Ethiopian brave men and women fighting on the ground. The world should be proud of them. The UIC have a sinister motivation to push the region to a millitant religious war. In my view the end justifies the means. UIC must go, we need a configuration favorable to every one. It can only be done with UIC gone.

I am more interested in the next step. What one has to do to set up a meeting of bordering countries (Ethiopia, Eritrea, Djjibuti, Kenya, and Somalia), and agree on a framework for cooperation. Even though all of of them fought before, I believe they will agree on some common principles, that will curb the occourance of war.
ABDI

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Dec 27, 2006
 
i am against the zenawi's war ins somalia, i think that meles has made a biggest mistake in his life when he invaded in somalia. this war is not over yet it is the beggining of the end of zenawis regime.usa is also making the same mistake believing that the puppets of addissaba and his soldiers would succeed in somalia. i think the history repeats itself and the west never learns from history. long live to somalia, long live to my people down to zenawi and stupid bush
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