Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 | Posted by: Selecia Jones- JAX FL | Full story: www.smh.com.au

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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<quoted text> reality!
Hey there P R Snow!!

Where have you got to?
Are you going to reply to my 10211 and 20112?

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Post something rational and I'll respond, dufus.

As is, no one has been able to make any rational case against what the Bible actually SAYS about your God-forbidden lifestyle choice.

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Mel wrote:
<quoted text>If you believed in God's Word, you would want to warn others of the consequences of willful sin. Jesus forgave those who repented, but told them to go and sin no more. God's Word makes it plain that homosexuals who do not repent of homosexual behavior suffer eternal consequences.
Preaching God's Word is love not hate.
You obviously are very guilty about your lifestyle choice, considering yourself waste water. The only way you will ever find peace in this life or in the next is to repent and follow Jesus.8
repent for what?. Did we break one of the 10 commandments?..

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Mel wrote:
<quoted text>If you believed in God's Word, you would want to warn others of the consequences of willful sin. Jesus forgave those who repented, but told them to go and sin no more. God's Word makes it plain that homosexuals who do not repent of homosexual behavior suffer eternal consequences.
Preaching God's Word is love not hate.
You obviously are very guilty about your lifestyle choice, considering yourself waste water. The only way you will ever find peace in this life or in the next is to repent and follow Jesus.8
well? when are you going to ever have peace in your life? When are YOU going to follow God instead of a book?...

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P R Snow wrote:
<quoted text>Post something rational and I'll respond, dufus.
Eat & follow your own words or choke on them NUT! and the latter would be the better option to give the world some peace from nit-wits like you!>



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<quoted text>Post something rational and I'll respond, dufus.
As is, no one has been able to make any rational case against what the Bible actually SAYS about your God-forbidden lifestyle choice.
MY QUESTION WAS:
"BTW. What version of the bible do you actually use?"

What was wrong with that question?
What are you afraid of?

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MY QUESTION WAS:
"BTW. What version of the bible do you actually use?"
What was wrong with that question?
What are you afraid of?
I think you ask fair questions.
Join Free

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Oh yes.
I love ballet.
... especially when you're dancing with David.

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... especially when you're dancing with David.
Yep, you and David are trying to dance with two left feet.
Goats to the left.........

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James Aist wrote:
The Bible identifies several kinds of sexual sin,/
The Bible identifies the bat as a bird.

The Bible can not be trusted to tell us about sex.

Lev. 11:13-19, 13“And these you shall detest among the birds;a they shall not be eaten; they are detestable: the eagle,b the bearded vulture, the black vulture, 14the kite, the falcon of any kind, 15every raven of any kind, 16the ostrich, the nighthawk, the sea gull, the hawk of any kind, 17the little owl, the cormorant, the short-eared owl, 18the barn owl, the tawny owl, the carrion vulture, 19the stork, the heron of any kind, the hoopoe, and the bat.

Look at that last bird in the list. Only a moron would trust the Bible to tell them anything.

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<quoted text>If you believed in God's Word,
No one believes in what you call God's word. It is impossible to believe opposites both at the same time.

One of the most important concepts in Christianity is original sin or the belief that all mankind has inherited a sinful nature brought about by the acts of Adam and Eve.

Rom. 5:12 "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"

Rom. 5:19 "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners,..."

1Cor. 15:22 "For as in Adam all die,..."

Yet, no amount of theological reasoning can make an inherently unjust idea seem right. Punishing billions of people for the acts of one is not only inherently unfair and unwarranted but also in opposition to other Biblical verses such as:

Deut. 24:16 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers (2Chron.25:54):every man shall be put to death for his own sin." (2 Kings 14:6)

Ezek. 18:20 "The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bearthe iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him."

Ezek.33:20 "O ye house of Israel,I will judge you every one after his ways."

Jer. 31:29-30 "In those days they shall say no more, The fathers have eaten a sour grape, and the children's teeth are set on edge. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge."

Rom. 2:6 "Who will render to every man according to his deeds."

Ezek. 18:4 "... the soul that sinneth, it shall die."

Each of these verses shows that every person should only be punished for those sins which he commits, not those of others.

Original sin makes about as much sense as if I were sitting at home one evening and the following occurred. The police came to my door and stated I was under arrest because my father in Europe just shot and killed someone. I responded by asking what that had to do with me and they said, "He's your father isn't he?"

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<quoted text>Post something rational and I'll respond, dufus.
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You are such a liar, you NEVER respond to rational posts. What isn't rational about asking about the following verse and why you pretend it is not in the Bible. You apologists are pathetic liars. Every one of you.

Matt. 18:19-20, "I can guarantee again that if two of you agree on anything here on earth, my Father in heaven will accept it.

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Hula wrote:
God wants us to be happy so shouldn't gay and lesbians be happy?! I'm only 13 and not lesbian or gay but I think that we should hav happiness no matter who we love! "Be the change you want to see in the world"- Gandhi
There is no God and we do not have a right to happiness but the right to prusue happiness. In other words, you have the right to try to get happiness which would make anyone trying to stop you someone who is violating your rights. In a normal world homophobes would be removed and re-educated in how we do things in America.

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MY QUESTION WAS:
"BTW. What version of the bible do you actually use?"
What was wrong with that question?
What are you afraid of?
My question to PR Snow (aka Blake, Byron, Nathaniel) in case you never understood it.

Re. What version of the bible do you actually use?

By “version” I meant to ask which translation/edition you use – if you actually own one at all. eg. King James Version, New International Version, New Revised Standard Version, New Living Translation etc, etc.

I happen to own and refer to several versions which include King James, Amplified & New English.

Why is my question so difficult (or impossible) for you to answer?

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Of course. Good one.

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MY QUESTION WAS:
"BTW. What version of the bible do you actually use?"
What was wrong with that question?
What are you afraid of?
Wrong question. It should be this.

Which Bible to you prefer to abuse others with?

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No one believes in what you call God's word.
Have you asked all other people?
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It is impossible to believe opposites both at the same time.
How do you know that paradoxes can't be true?

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Why is my question so difficult (or impossible) for you to answer?
Fair question! It's especially bad when other people abuse those who earnestly seek? That's how it is in dictator-environment, isn't it?

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Why is my question so difficult (or impossible) for you to answer?
Fair question! It's especially bad when other people abuse those who earnestly seek? That's how it is in dictator-environment, isn't it?

If people do that (abuse), it is because they are afraid and have problems?

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