Homosexuality and the Bible

Aug 15, 2011 | Posted by: Selecia Jones- JAX FL | Full story: www.smh.com.au

Given the ongoing debate about same-sex marriage, it is time I looked at the two Testaments to remind myself why belief is so hard for me to embrace.

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Very interesting points. So you are also talking about using our gifts.
The Bible is an excellent measure to see if your 'gifts' are of God or not. If they lead you away from God's Teachings, they are not of God.

The Bible of course repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments.

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Seth wrote:
<quoted text>The Bible is an excellent measure to see if your 'gifts' are of God or not. If they lead you away from God's Teachings, they are not of God.
The Bible of course repeatedly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments.
In order to prove that homosexuality is a sin, first you have to prove these in order:

1. That there's a god, using evidence which is testable and objectively verifiable.
2. That this god is interested in what humans do.
3. That the ideology you attribute to this god is the correct one.
4. That this deity created a concept called "sin".
5. That the creator of the concept of sin specifically communicated that homosexuality is a sin.

Start with #1, and good luck. Be objective. Use empirical evidence, not ontological arguments.
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In order to prove that homosexuality is a sin, first you have to prove these in order:
1. That there's a god, using evidence which is testable and objectively verifiable.
2. That this god is interested in what humans do.
3. That the ideology you attribute to this god is the correct one.
4. That this deity created a concept called "sin".
5. That the creator of the concept of sin specifically communicated that homosexuality is a sin.
Start with #1, and good luck. Be objective. Use empirical evidence, not ontological arguments.
If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.
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<quoted text>So you think you can ignore what the Bible actually says and have any rational discussion on the topic?
Dope!
he already did. and zinged you. and got it right from the get-go.

3-fer-3. the boy's batting a thousand!
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Seth wrote:
<quoted text>If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.
so why do you obsess about homosexual acts?

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<quoted text>If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.
1. I don't believe being homosexual is a sin.

2. There is no such thing as homosexual behavior.

3. Projection. You are the one obsessing about this.

4. Your statement is meant to hurt me. That is hate. What I said lacks hatred. Disagreement and hate have much different meanings.

Try again. You didn't even get to #1 on the list.

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so why do you obsess about homosexual acts?
I don't even know what homosexual acts are, do you?

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Didn't Jesus say the following?

"There is NOTHING from without a man, that entering into him can defile him"

Therefore, if there is such a thing as a homosexual act, then Jesus himself said it was most certainly NOT sinful.
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I don't even know what homosexual acts are, do you?
i guess that's the next question for ol' chumly.

maybe....umm....shakespear? afterall, every shakespearan play i've seen, there's dudes in tights and slippers.

LOL.
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1. I don't believe being homosexual is a sin.
2. There is no such thing as homosexual behavior.
3. Projection. You are the one obsessing about this.
4. Your statement is meant to hurt me. That is hate. What I said lacks hatred. Disagreement and hate have much different meanings.
Try again. You didn't even get to #1 on the list.
If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.

You are paranoid. God's Word is not intended to 'hurt' you. It is intended to save you from horrible suffering both in this life and in the next.

The Bible clearly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. You know that well enough!
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i guess that's the next question for ol' chumly.
maybe....umm....shakespear? afterall, every shakespearan play i've seen, there's dudes in tights and slippers.
LOL.
You mean the Manito Filth?

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Brett wrote:
<quoted text>If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.
You are paranoid. God's Word is not intended to 'hurt' you. It is intended to save you from horrible suffering both in this life and in the next.
The Bible clearly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. You know that well enough!
1. Projection. You are the one obsessing. I don't care about sin.

2. There is no such thing as God's Word. Especially Leviticus written by the priests, and Paul's (Saulian) ideology.

3. The Bible is a tautology. By using it they way you do, you actually refute yourself.

Try again. You didn't even get to #1 with your ontological arguments.
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1. Projection. You are the one obsessing. I don't care about sin.
2. There is no such thing as God's Word. Especially Leviticus written by the priests, and Paul's (Saulian) ideology.
3. The Bible is a tautology. By using it they way you do, you actually refute yourself.
Try again. You didn't even get to #1 with your ontological arguments.
If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.

You are paranoid. God's Word is not intended to 'hurt' you. It is intended to save you from horrible suffering both in this life and in the next.

The Bible clearly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. You know that well enough!

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Brett wrote:
<quoted text>If you didn't believe that homosexual behavior was serious sin, you wouldn't obsess on posting on Bible threads, consider yourself waste water, and post hate.
You are paranoid. God's Word is not intended to 'hurt' you. It is intended to save you from horrible suffering both in this life and in the next.
The Bible clearly condemns all homosexual behavior in the plainest of terms and in both Testaments. You know that well enough!
1. Projection. I believe no such thing.

2. Projection. There is no such thing as God's Word. Why would I be afraid of something which obviously doesn't exist.

3. Irrelevant ontological argument.

In order to prove that homosexuality is a sin, first you have to prove these in order:

1. That there's a god, using evidence which is testable and objectively verifiable.
2. That this god is interested in what humans do.
3. That the ideology you attribute to this god is the correct one.
4. That this deity created a concept called "sin".
5. That the creator of the concept of sin specifically communicated that homosexuality is a sin.

Start with #1, and good luck. Be objective. Use empirical evidence, not ontological arguments

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Very interesting points. So you are also talking about using our gifts.
Yep, that follows with the story of the man who buried his talent out of fear.

I believe that the opposite of love is fear.

Those who fear God don't know Him.

People like David, who uses his fear of God (and he deserves to fear) are working for the opposite team.

Doesn't matter to me what religion someone is, or if they are none at all, Love is the most powerful thing we as humans can do..

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Yep, that follows with the story of the man who buried his talent out of fear.
I believe that the opposite of love is fear.
Those who fear God don't know Him.
People like David, who uses his fear of God (and he deserves to fear) are working for the opposite team.
Doesn't matter to me what religion someone is, or if they are none at all, Love is the most powerful thing we as humans can do..
Well said. It is amazing when I come here and find someone who actually knows Scripture.

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Yep, that follows with the story of the man who buried his talent out of fear.
I believe that the opposite of love is fear.
Those who fear God don't know Him.
People like David, who uses his fear of God (and he deserves to fear) are working for the opposite team.
Doesn't matter to me what religion someone is, or if they are none at all, Love is the most powerful thing we as humans can do..
Yea, might be. When I observe Manito I observe a man that cannot communicate.

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Yea, might be. When I observe Manito I observe a man that cannot communicate.
I disagree with your statement my friend. Manito communicates he has a closed mind. He communicates his arrogant beliefs. He communicates his disdain for anyone who disagrees with his ideology.

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Yea, might be. When I observe Manito I observe a man that cannot communicate.
Was I right when I told you what would happen? I have been feeding his obsession as you can plainly see.

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