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pixie
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Has anybody read the website Kingsolomonsgate? If so, what did they think? It was written by the guy at the bus station that night. Any comments please.
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Henrietta McPhee
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I have read that website. It's been on the internet for years.
I honestly don't know what to make of it. It seems that Dan Pride noticed a suspicious character at a bus station in Boulder on the night JonBenet was murdered. The problem with it for me is that I think Dan Pride first of all thought it might have been Santa Bill McReynolds, and he now thinks it was John Karr. Santa Bill had a huge beard and was elderly, and John Karr was much younger and looked different. I can't quite remember if he thought it might have been one of Santa Bill's sons. If I was a cop I would want more hard information about the matter in order to be on firm ground. I also think I would have my doubts that anybody who had just done a horrible murder, like the JonBenet murder, would calmly get on a bus. I think the murder was planned, and the getaway was planned as well, in order to avoid detection. The matter was recently mentioned on Jameson's forum. This is part of what was said recently: "Dan Pride has changed his account of the bus station incident and is now claiming that he is definitely certain that John Mark Karr is the person he saw at the bus station and on the bus in Boulder on Christmas night." http://www.kingsolomonsgate.com/Christmas96.h... |
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g girl on the fence
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I have now that you posted it. I'm not sure what to think of him. He apparently came forward in '02, when he claimed he was McReynolds. Then he morphed his vision to fit Karr in '06. What are your thoughts? |
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pixie
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Hi Henrietta,
Thanks for reply. Well, I don't know where to begin. At first I thought he was a weirdo. Then he appeared on a website - crimenews and started going on about Karr - saying he was 5'11" tall. Karr is 5'6". I started to read ALL through his site. Weird and weirder. What co-incidences! So I asked myelf seeing that he changed his bus stop version and his JB page he changed within 3 days. It is now a seemingly normal page but if you scroll down the JB page the original is there. I have a lot of stuff to say but I will post this first. |
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pixie
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You will notice he twists and turns his words. Plays little games and weird things but I can show you step by step because this is really complicated to explain.
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pixie
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1. He was bus station at 6pm.
2. He missed all buses. 3. He says he was on 12.30 bus, midnight bus and 1 o'clock bus. 4. Says bus was packed then he says there were 12 people besides him. 5.He says Karr got off after 2 stops. 6. He say ' this is no Santa Claus.' 7. His statement of 'An odd time for ME to be stuck in the Boulder bus station minutes after Jonbenet Ramsey's Christmas Day murder a few blocks away a few minutes before.(How does he know she was killed a few minutes before?) 8.The two religious verses.(about Patsy & JB?) 9.He spent day at JMR house.(Gacy spent day at friend's house. The garotte man) 10. Friend was a Deacon besides computer guy. 11.Describes Karr's vest - shiny red spot over heart area. Tan fleece jacket.( Tan fibres found in garotte?) 12. 1 KINGS 1:8 - under heading NATHAN THE PROPHET. 13. """"" "" = 118? as in r/n? 14. He says his name came from the book of DANIEL. (reading the book of kings) 15. His role is proving the bible. 16. He has carried the bible around for 6 years. Mentions pagan, 666, male prostitutes, pedophile priest. in Reading the Book of Kings. He says, A nearly pornographic prophetic dream. SO far..........what do you think? thanks. Should I add more? |
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g girl on the fence
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By all means! I googled the Solomon reference but only came up with maybe a page worth. |
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pixie
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g girl - you only came up with a page? that's weird.
just do www.kingsolomonsgate.com I hope or go to crimenews2000 - find post by DP and thee are links. OK. He is a computer whizz! Was a heavy smoker - 3 packs a day.(cig. butts found in alleyway of Ramseys') as were butts found at the dance school. HE went to a ballet and tap dance academy. 1996 started worked at Denver west yellow pages AT & T.- Think he moved there NOvember. SO far......... excuse typos please. |
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Grandmother of Two
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I don't think the story is credible enough to come to any conclusions. Too many unexplained coincidences and too many changed stories. Think this guy maybe just trying to get publicity. Wouldn't arrest anyone on his account alone.
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g girl on the fence
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ah, I see. I just googled and got a bite of that whole thing. I'll read more now. |
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Henrietta McPhee
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I agree the bus station incident is mysterious.
For some reason Dan Pride's description of the suspicious character doesn't raise my eyebrows particularly. For one thing he calls Santa Bill Phil McReynolds when his name is Bill McReynolds. As I mentioned before I don't know if he was thinking of Santa Bill's sons. It looks to me as though the Boulder DA's office are quite interested in Dan Pride's alibi, and the clothes he was wearing that day as well. At least that's how the Rocky Mountain News seems to report the matter. I just think it's a simple matter of mistaken identity. It's just that I wasn't in Boulder that night. I still don't know exactly what happened to JonBenet. I've always believed there could be several people involved in JonBenet's murder, even if indirectly. This is the sort of thing Dan Pride had on his website before it was updated for the John Karr business. It doesn't sound very convincing to me: "Jan 20 2004 web rumors indicate DNA ruled out Phil McReynolds as a suspect in JonBenet's murder, leaving the significance of this event in limbo. The individual I asked for a cigarette light that night was 35 to 50 years old, emaciated, pot bellied, thin, about 5'11 and really terrified of something, perhaps just a schizophrenic having a bad day, perhaps someone who did not want to be seen. His physique reminded me of my father's after years of congestive heart failure. Vaguely cow boyish, He looked sort of like McReynolds from a two second flashed TV photo I saw years later after he died. After the encounter while waiting for the bus, the skitz boarded it also. The jacket had a ruddy stain about two inches wide and five vertical center chest left, the heart area. He sat one quarter the way back on the midnight Denver greyhound bus from Boulder that night on the right hand side. The individual constantly looked back over his shoulder at me (sitting half way back on the left) giving me the evil eye repeatedly and making me very uncomfortable until he got off at the second stop.(the highway intersection, I think?)." |
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pixie
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The second stop is going towards 15th street? I don't know but I did look on a map. I agree it is not worth arresting someone over for but.....as I said it is complicated. He does state under the heading: A CIGARETTE BEFORE COLUMBINE that the 'twelve students and Christ.' He says that about the bus again in his letter to DA office dated 22 August 2006.
Letter to DA office August 18 2006 he is on the 12:30 bus to Denver.(which I thought was strange because he has an address (re: GATES & ASSOCIATES dated 21st January 1997) his address is Aurora. #The he makes a crorrectio. Bus left 1 o'clock Denver bus stopped running at 2.00. Reading letter to DA dated August 18 2006 he says, 'My ID is not 100% but it is about 90%'. The ransom note states, 'You stand a 99% chance of killing etc .....and 100% chance of getting her back.' so far...... |
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pixie
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ps. His credibility statemnt:( on ksg)
He states: 'My reference to 'Credibility issues' was a reference to this site, While every word correct and true and the events have happened exactly as described, it is of course a defense lawyers dream. A prosecutor would have to spend extensive effort to prove every word and then by the time he got done defending his witness and proving the credibility, the focus of the trial would be lost.' I saw that he mentioned 'Phil' instead of Bill' This guy has dreams - prophetic dreams - see The Face of God. Read verse 5 paragraph.(Jmo) |
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joejam
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what if we have all been deceive all this time? I mean after 10 years...we've been looking in the wrong direction because it seems most logical? What is logical? Just like statistics....it doesn't amount to a hill of beans.....You never say never and nothing is etched in stone......
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joejam
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What kind of person would try to fool people....? and we would believe it...only to be fooled? think about it? Something is up....
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Detroit Breakdown
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Right from the beginning I have never believed that this guy saw Karr at a bus stop and knew something was wrong from looking at him and remembered exactly where the guy got off the bus. Karr`s a pansy boy. He`d never rough it on a bus. It would take days to go that far that many states away on a bus with all the stops on the way. Makes no sense. Then the guys said it was someone else before with a different height and a different age. He`s just a LIAR. |
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Gigi
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Don't know if this is really him -- but he has posted at the CTV forum if you are interested:
I am the individual in the Bus station who ran into someone whom I believe was Karr but can not swear to it.......... http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php... |
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Henrietta McPhee
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This is some background information to the Dan Pride information, from Tod Hartman of the Rocky Mountain News, August 26 2006. Spray seems to be a former cop who seems to be working on the Ramsey case for the Boulder DA's office:
"Pride provided an e-mail from Spray in which the investigator said he was interested in talking to him. Spray wanted to know what Pride was wearing on the same night, said Pride, who said he thought he could obtain the information from friends who had photos of a gathering that Pride attended on Christmas of 1996. It's impossible to know the significance of the interview. Those familiar with investigations said Spray could simply be following a lead that could put Karr in Boulder, or might have been trying to corroborate information that he'd already obtained elsewhere. Pride said the stranger got off the bus on the highway outside of Boulder. Pride's story seems to have at least one hitch: The Ramsey house is some distance from the downtown Boulder bus station. Even if JonBenet's death occurred prior to midnight - the exact time is unknown - it's a significant walk from that property on 15th Street to the bus depot." |
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pixie
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Thanks for all your info guys. I thought 'that' website was a lie at first - and then I re-read it. I thought P was a liar too until I started to see similarities to evidence etc. The fact that he was at the bus station and missed EVERY bus was suspicious. His description of Karr & McReynalds made me more suspicious and then after reading the 12 people and Christ bit, TWICE, I thought that HE was referring to himself. He saw himself not Karr. He had all those hours to get to the place and back (if he did indeed go back?) What made me suspicious that he may not have been at the station was his comments on crimenews site. He mentions 'lost computers, lost videos' and states that he guesses they lost the bus station surveillance video too!
As he is into the bible and quotations - passages, I noticed that he was named after Daniel. Daniel was a dreamer who had visions. P has these too if you look. The KSG exists - he was there - but it has to be finished? I looked up phrophecies made easy for Daniel and it all came together - I think? The three final acts for the prophecy to be are in Daniel 9. If you read KJV bible Daniel 24-27. refers to 70 prophetic weeks. Please ask if you like I will try to explain cos it all sounds garbled. |
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pixie
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The ransom note with the 118 figure I got from 1 KINGS 18 on the KSG website. He has 18 mentions many places. On the crime news w/s he makes a statement twice saying 'once in 18 years'= 118.
He has 18 (118?) hits on FBI link on his w/s. We are a foreign faction IMO is his dealings with KSG in Jerusalem and possibly a particular couple in B.(Haven't figured that for sure yet). His spelling mistakes - he has many on site. execution, stray dog, beheaded - terms used in Israel. He was familiar with LE because he used to go to NYPD bar. Had detective friend. Movie quotes - he talks about Air America, Dogma. fat cat - I think he refers to his company P Realty and the 'crash.' Victory - Photo on site. Last one I think. Man making a sign. s.b.t.c -Southwestern Bell Corp - AT & T. I got that from where he has a reference at bottom of JB page under MA BELL. Also Small Business Technology Council - JR made businessman of the year. Also - saved by the cross, sorry 'bout that chief. His DA letter on the 18th talks about percentages. ie 100% & 99%. R/N has %. You have to ask yourself WHY? Why did he have a confidential report on polygraph by GATES & ASSOCIATES in January 1997? Although he states it was originally sent 4 years earlier? Also he states on his site that it is better to get a 'closer' match in handwriting the earlier it is written? |
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